WH40k game Indomitus Terminators

[Xenith]

Don't know where people are getting 3 terms from.

 

The initial image has 2x SB guys, 1 TH/SS, and a sergeant/captain with sword and SB, then a fifth with asscan rocks up.

 

As for only captains have capes:

 

 

It wouldn't be the first time a models rank has been misidentified by a rumour monger. 

 

Edit - think I made a mistake, I thought the second flash was the libby teleporting down, but the model I thought was THSS has a book on his backside, so that's 2x SB+PF, Asscan Libby, Serge/captain. 

 

Maybe there's only 3 in the starter set due to space limitations? I recall at the start of 8th there was a special 3 man intercessor unit permitted because of the easy to build kit. New terms might be 3-10. 

Edited March 23, 2023 by Xenith

[Kallas]

Man, can we just enjoy that everyone gets a win with these Terminators. They're updated to a better scale and proportion while being completely faithful to the Indomitus aesthetic.

Firstborn can use them, Primaris can use them, everybody gets to play with the new toys, no matter their preferences. It's a win.

 

This is what it should have been from the start, the division is exhausting and should never have happened in the first place - so let's at least enjoy that Terminators are for everyone. Primaris don't lose out because they made them Firstborn only, and Firstborn don't lose out by having it taken away.

[Marshal Reinhard]

Is it just me or does the Librarian look a little weird? Or maybe that's just the VERY thick shoulder pad rims? 

 

Like the standard termies look perfect, but I almost felt the librarian was a bit off, that I almost thought it was another variant armor at first.

 

Not that the way a witch looks matters much to me in the end.

[Kallas]

1 minute ago, Marshal Reinhard said:

Is it just me or does the Librarian look a little weird?

Yeah.

 

The shoulder pad 'rims are very reminiscent of the Gravis ones, and the torso was definitely modified, looked like a cross between Gravis and Indomitus.

[Kastor Krieg]

7 minutes ago, Kallas said:

Man, can we just enjoy that everyone gets a win with these Terminators. They're updated to a better scale and proportion while being completely faithful to the Indomitus aesthetic.

Firstborn can use them, Primaris can use them, everybody gets to play with the new toys, no matter their preferences. It's a win.

 

This is what it should have been from the start, the division is exhausting and should never have happened in the first place - so let's at least enjoy that Terminators are for everyone. Primaris don't lose out because they made them Firstborn only, and Firstborn don't lose out by having it taken away.

^ This.

Especially if this will mean more crossplay between Primaris and Firstborn, I'm all for it. And if it means that in 11th or 12th ed the division will go away in the fashion of "you can use whatever Marine models fit the datasheet, as long as they're on an appropriate base, a Space Marine is a Space Marine now", all the better.

[Lord Nord in Gravis Armour]

Regarding the squad size in the box...

 

Maybe there will be a bodyguard-style rule allowing Terminators to be taken as a pair a la the Victrix Guard when accompanying certain characters? That way they could ship two in the box but actually go with 3 or (hopefully) 5 as the actual minimum squad size?

[Marshal Reinhard]

EDIT: Nvm. More pointings out shows this was wrong too. So much Pyrotechnics.

 

But we can almost safely assume that caped terminator is a captain. Why? Because presumably the sergeant with SB and powersword is next to him

Edited March 23, 2023 by Marshal Reinhard

[Kallas]

1 minute ago, Lord Nord said:

Maybe there will be a bodyguard-style rule allowing Terminators to be taken as a pair a la the Victrix Guard when accompanying certain characters? That way they could ship two in the box but actually go with 3 or (hopefully) 5 as the actual minimum squad size?

That could make sense - Deathwing Command Squads currently start at 2-man, so it could be an expansion of that to a generic Terminator Command Squad kind of deal.

[Captain Idaho]

I will have to rewatch myself as I missed the Thunder Hammer guy.

 

I'm excited to see what characters come out in Terminator armour. Captain Agemman is a dream of mine but we have him in that art after all...

 

The way GW does characters also likely means we'll get a helmet option too, which I quite prefer. I wouldn't want the bulky Terminator suits to be compromised by some melt taking his helmet off.

[Marshal Reinhard]

Upon further reviewing 3 squad size can might be what we're getting.

 

There's a total of 5 terminator models confirmed in the video

 

Captain

Librarian

SB PF

SB PS

AC PF

 

What I and others previously thought was a glimpse of a thunderhammer guy, was apparently the librarian.

[Kastor Krieg]

I don't think we're getting 3-in-a-box, but we might be getting a 3-10 unit size.

[Halandaar]

If nothing else it lines up with the squad sizes of nearly every other 40mm Astartes squad released since 8th Edition (Bladeguard, Eliminators, Eradicators, Aggressors, Suppressors, Inceptors all come in 3's, only Heavy Intercessors and Sword Brethren come in 5's)

[Marshal Reinhard]

2 minutes ago, Kastor Krieg said:

I don't think we're getting 3-in-a-box, but we might be getting a 3-10 unit size.

Would be quite awkward to collect a 10 man squad if the kit came with 10. 

 

But it could be IF the squad is 3-10

 

Then starter box might just have 3 guys. While a full kit comes with 5 like you'd expect.

[Burni]

This seems to be a 100% win, loved by all, reintroduction of TDA. So there's a good chance GW will balls it up with 3 per box but costing more than the old 5 per box price 

[Cyrox]

I think it will be a squad of 5, and then the TDA Captain and TDA Librarian will be extra characters, with the Gravis Apothecary and maybe another character.

 

They look amazing, so happy they have just updated and upscaled the classic look

[WrathOfTheLion]

3 minutes ago, Marshal Reinhard said:

Would be quite awkward to collect a 10 man squad if the kit came with 10. 

 

But it could be IF the squad is 3-10

 

Then starter box might just have 3 guys. While a full kit comes with 5 like you'd expect.

They did weird stuff like understrength units in the 2E AoS starter box, and it went really poorly. I suspect they won't make that mistake again.

[Halandaar]

20 minutes ago, WrathOfTheLion said:

They did weird stuff like understrength units in the 2E AoS starter box, and it went really poorly. I suspect they won't make that mistake again.

 

Sure but that's easily resolved by just changing the minimum unit size in the rules, then you don't end up with models you can't use effectively. 

 

3-man units are pretty standard for bigger Elite and specialist units now; AoS3 had a few different units with 3-model configurations (Stormcast Praetorians and Annihilators, Orruk Boltboyz) all of which went on to be 3-man standalone boxes too. Same goes for the Bladeguard and Eradicators from Indomitus. Then in recent releases you've got World Eaters Eightbound, Votann Brokhyrs, probably others I can't remember.

[Lysimachus]

Hmm, £37.50 for 3 (like Eightbound)

 

Or £40 for 5 (like Heavy Intercessors)

 

No prizes for guessing which way that will go... 

[Marshal Reinhard]

So, there's a terminator with a white helm (so presumably a squaddie) wielding a storm bolter left handed towards the bottom right of the screen after about 4:09 during the last stand looking scene. This is in addition to the other squaddie who's front and center of the shot, who's clearly a normal SB PF user. Assault cannon guy has just been ripped apart.

 

Can anyone see what the one to the right is holding in his right hand? Doesn't look like a power fist? But not seeing a power sword either? 

 

Doesn't look like the sergeant - he was shown just earlier and had clear red helmet markings as you'd expect. He's also consistently shown with SB in right hand, though wasn't able to confirm his powersword in his left hand during that very blurry sequence. Might be they're playing hard and fast with armaments and left/right positions? Or is the 4th termie confirmed?

Edited March 23, 2023 by Marshal Reinhard
screen grabs and grammar and clarification

[Lysimachus]

13 minutes ago, Marshal Reinhard said:

There's a terminator with white helm (so presumably squaddie) wielding a storm bolter left handed towards the bottom right of the screen after about 4:07 during the last stand looking scene. This is in addition to the other squaddie who's front and center of the shot, who's clearly a normal SB PF user. Assault cannon guy has just been ripped apart

 

Can anyone see what his right hand is of the one to the right? doesn't look like a power fist? is it holding a power sword? 

 

Doesn't look like the sergeant though, he was shown just earlier and had clear red helmet markings as you'd expect.

 

Ooh, that's good news! If so, that means at least 4 distinct non-character Termi's shown.

 

I could believe they'd do a set of 3, but if there are 4, I can't see it not being the full 5?

[CL_Mission]

26 minutes ago, Marshal Reinhard said:

So, there's a terminator with a white helm (so presumably a squaddie) wielding a storm bolter left handed towards the bottom right of the screen after about 4:09 during the last stand looking scene. This is in addition to the other squaddie who's front and center of the shot, who's clearly a normal SB PF user. Assault cannon guy has just been ripped apart

 

Can anyone see what the one to the right is holding in his right hand? Doesn't look like a power fist? But not seeing the power sword? 

 

Doesn't look like the sergeant though, he was shown just earlier and had clear red helmet markings as you'd expect. He's also consistantly shown as SB right handed. Also not able to see the sergeant's powersword during that very blurry event. Might be they're playing hard and fast with armaments and positions? Or 4th termie confirmed?

 

 

He looks empty handed, which is very odd. I don't think you're supposed to pay him much attention, his animation on that arm is kinda jank.

[appiah4]

They look like filler characters to me.  It's almost definitely a squad of 3 terminators, and I'm betting the new box will also be 3 models with the excuse being "because they now have a lot more options on the sprue" due to assault/tactical being combined.  So you will have to buy 2 boxes of 3 to get a 5 man squad and end up with an extra terminator.

 

To all who say they would never do that: Plague Marines people.

[Orange Knight]

I hope there are 5 in the box, but I think there will be 3 based on the trailer :-(

 

Edit:

 

Now that Primaris can have Terminator armour, it opens up a lot of lovely FW kits to Primaris only players. The Dark Angels are especially lucky in this respect.

Edited March 23, 2023 by Orange Knight

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

In the stream they had the big battle picture with Dante, but saw some deathwing termies in the bottom right, are those the current models or the new models? One looked like he had something on his back, either a shield ala BGVs or wings very much like the lion has.

[Bryan Blaire]

The Dark Angels Terminator kit has a set of wings that you can put on the back of one Terminator.  It shouldn’t be too hard to start doing some conversions with that kit (or other Chapter specific TDA kits) to this new one (even just kit-bashing if the pauldron and helm sizes have stayed pretty much the same) once it comes out to make some very flavorful Terminators.  Depending on the fist size, you may even be able to just slice those/lightning claw fists off old kits and glue them on to this one.  I still want GW to produce Chapter specific stuff in all lines of Terminators and Primaris kits, but with a bit of work, wouldn’t necessarily need to wait on them to do it.  Then we could have upscaled Deathwing Knights, BA Assault Terminators, etc., fairly soon after the new Edition releases (just have to play them with whatever “index” rules GW gives them upon release).

 

I am really, really liking the Storm bolter design for these chaps, as well as the updated assault cannon sculpt, looks very, very cool.

Edited March 23, 2023 by Bryan Blaire