Captain Idaho Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Has anyone had any luck in reposing the plastic 40K Guilliman? I particularly want to do it to get a pose and size more representative of Guilliman in my mind. Let's talk about potential here - the feet are flat so I think it's mostly the right leg that's the main culprit here for an obstacle, particularly the join at the knee. The left leg shouldn't be too much trouble with a bit of modelling putty I think. The real question is what sort of pose to put him into. Battle ready works, but perhaps something more relaxed or even something menacing? With the legs needs to be careful consideration to the arms too. I am limited in what I can achieve. Completely carving up a model at the waist can be pretty much beyond my expertise. Anyone attempted this sort of project before? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 I have these legs I did convert ages ago. Purely done as I absolutely hated his base as a whole. But I am over that now and finished his proper base this weekend. You can have the legs for free if you want. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5926427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 It's very generous to offer free legs (I'm hoping miniatures and not a hated enemy's!) And whilst I'd be happy to take them off your hands, let's wait and see what I do with these legs first. If I mess up you might get a PM! Anyway, how did you find the repositioning of the right leg in particular? Did it need a lot of hacking and GS or was it just a bit of GS to fill etc? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5926543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: It's very generous to offer free legs (I'm hoping miniatures and not a hated enemy's!) And whilst I'd be happy to take them off your hands, let's wait and see what I do with these legs first. If I mess up you might get a PM! Anyway, how did you find the repositioning of the right leg in particular? Did it need a lot of hacking and GS or was it just a bit of GS to fill etc? I hacked the crap out of the soft seal area and used GS to make it sturdy. Its not perfect but it can be usable. I took the soft seal down as far as I could near the crotch without hitting detail. Edited March 29, 2023 by Brother Captain Arkley Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5926558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 Ah yes, it's kind of exposed by his leg stretched at the usual angle. I thought I might have to do that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5926720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 10 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: Ah yes, it's kind of exposed by his leg stretched at the usual angle. I thought I might have to do that. Well I suggest getting the legs from me before you commit to cutting up another Guilliman? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5926734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 Ah seems like a waste like if you could potentially give it to someone else. Have you a photo of the rear for now? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5926851 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 Just now, Captain Idaho said: Ah seems like a waste like if you could potentially give it to someone else. Have you a photo of the rear for now? I have 3 Guillimans its really not an issue LOL. Taking a picture of his ass... Thats a first for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5926852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 I actually think his pose is fine, but I have seen some attempts a long time ago. Have you tried googling this? His pose has been tinkered with, I'm sure I saw some old photos going back a while. I wish I would have kept some. Arkley, that's some great work. I wouldn't even dare attempt it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5926912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 29, 2023 Author Share Posted March 29, 2023 I did the google search and found some, but without explanation like Arkley gave about the issues involved etc. But some pics were handy to see how folk went about it. I too like my Guilliman, but I really wanted to try something new. I went to Warhammer World and there's a diorama with a reposed Guilliman and it looked amazing. Really gave off a heavier, more imposing feel in many ways. Since I'd have 2 helmets too, which I can interchange potentially (depending if I change things around of course) I thought I even utilise a crest to be added to one to Roman up his look somewhat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5926925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Well the offer is there before you hack apart your own :). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5927113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 Let's talked possibilities! I've got 3 ideas: • Combat stance/swinging blade • Hold aloft weapons in glory. • Restrained rage/preparedness in a more "getting ready or waiting" kind of thing. What do people think would be suitably Guilliman and achievable with the model? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5927172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 12 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: Let's talked possibilities! I've got 3 ideas: • Combat stance/swinging blade • Hold aloft weapons in glory. • Restrained rage/preparedness in a more "getting ready or waiting" kind of thing. What do people think would be suitably Guilliman and achievable with the model? I have gone with original... But the reason I tried to convert him was my overwhelming hatred of his base. But I finished his base over the weekend and got a result I actually like. Here is a good pose for him too if it could be pulled off on his 40k model. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5927183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 30, 2023 Author Share Posted March 30, 2023 I do have the original painted up and am proud of it: It does look great. I just had this little extra I wanted to do is all. (Obviously a Word Bearer on the base. Seemed the most appropriate!) Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5927232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: I do have the original painted up and am proud of it: It does look great. I just had this little extra I wanted to do is all. (Obviously a Word Bearer on the base. Seemed the most appropriate!) Agreed :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5927244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted March 31, 2023 Share Posted March 31, 2023 I have a close friend who plays word bearers. Every chance I get, I like to put a (dying) one on my base. :) That is an amazing repose above. It is actually similar to the diorama I saw on sale for a small fortune some time back. When I see that, it shows me the sculpt isn't really that dated compared to Forest Murder Hobo. However, I admit I don't have the patience or skill to pull of any respectable repose. But when I see that example... wow. I wish I could get my hands on that. Captain Idaho 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5927754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknife Posted April 5, 2023 Share Posted April 5, 2023 (edited) Yes it is possible. Easiest way is to hack above the thigh armour, then greenstuff the rubber undersuit back as others have shown. I've done it to make it look like gman isn't about to pull the splits. I think you could go further but more greenstuff would be required and potentially it would require greater greenstuff skill to do. The biggest barrier I think is the link for ammo going into his glove. Any movement of that arm requires you to sculpt it. Edited April 5, 2023 by Subtleknife Captain Idaho and Prot 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5929817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted April 6, 2023 Share Posted April 6, 2023 The ammo belt is made up of non-intersecting rectangles, so feasibly one could cut them apart, drill through them, and thread two pieces of wire through them to allow for bending into shape. Once a suitable shape is fitted the gaps can be filled with green stuff. Captain Idaho 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5930261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted April 10, 2023 Share Posted April 10, 2023 Or just remove the ammo belt? I have to search on this.. I'm getting curious how or if I have the ability to repose him. I've just already painted 2 of the standard Guillimans. I'm fine with the original pose, just bored of painting it. Captain Idaho 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5932280 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted April 10, 2023 Author Share Posted April 10, 2023 It'll be my project this weekend coming when my boys go back to their mother. Looking forward to it. Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5932398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted April 11, 2023 Share Posted April 11, 2023 Doing a lot of research on this.... there are some brilliant attempts, but a few of my faves: The above is so close to being pulled off perfectly. The ape is rough, perhaps too long, but it's really hard to pull off. The pose itself seems fairly natural. Weight distribution is solid, and the contemplative, ready to strike pose looks fairly natural. This one above looks like a very natural pose to me. Not a huge variation of the original, but perhaps more natural/relaxed. Above: Love this base alteration. Nothing extreme, just a nice variant imo. If it were me, and I had the capability, I've always loved this pose: It would be nearly impossible, but this image has always been one of my favourite artist's renditions. I'd just lower the sword hand a bit (to prevent breakage). As much as I like this pose, I think it's probably too much alteration. Still some really good attempts out there. I respect all of them and I certainly couldn't do any of them myself! Ulfast, Captain Idaho and Captain Caine 24th 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5932699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted April 11, 2023 Author Share Posted April 11, 2023 They're so well done. The model is surprisingly dynamic and adaptable for a monopose model. Prot 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5932997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted May 1, 2023 Author Share Posted May 1, 2023 Here's my effort. Pretty happy with how he turned out and I kept the arms as it matched. Actually really happy with him and it wasn't too bad to use this modest adjustment. Grotsmasha, Prot and ArielRSA 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5942377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted May 1, 2023 Author Share Posted May 1, 2023 (edited) Tell you what, I actually find him more imposing in many ways as he's standing taller and only a tad smaller than the original despite the scenic base: He stands only slightly smaller despite such a smaller base. I like it. Edited May 1, 2023 by Captain Idaho ArielRSA 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5942381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Wow. Nice job. I couldn't do that. It looks really natural as well. Captain Idaho 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378098-reposing-guilliman/#findComment-5942382 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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