How many Playable Characters each Traitor Legion has in current Tabletop?

[Moonreaper666]

Not talking about side games like Blackstone Fortress

 

Wondering how many and which characters can be played on Tabletop for each Traitor Legion

 

I find it odd that some Traitor Legions don't even have Playable Characters

 

EDIT: Hopefully GW/BL would either turn Novel characters (Decimus or Lokk) into Tabletop or create original ones so that each Traitor Legion has several (at least 8) Special Characters

Edited April 10, 2023 by Moonreaper666

[sitnam]

If you take away the Black Legion and four marked Legions, you get arguably 2: Fabius Bile and Huron Blackheart. Yes I know Fabius is an EC but he operates more as a renegade. With the 5 exclusions you have:

 

-Three primarchs (Fulgrim one day)

-Four classic champions (Lucius, Khârn, Ahriman, and  Typhus)

-Lord Invocatus

-Harken Worldclaimer

-Abbadon

 

Maybe I'm missing a one or two, but that seems about it.

[Scribe]

Cypher - Fallen (for now?)

Bile - EC/Unaligned

Mort - DG

Typhon - DG

Abaddon - BL

Haarken - BL (dead or no?)

Invocatus - WE (zzz)

Khârn - WE

Angron - WE

Magnus - TS

Ahriman - TS

 

I think thats it, in plastic?

[Kastor Krieg]

Didn't the plastic named BL dude from BSF also get rules?

[Moonreaper666]

12 hours ago, Kastor Krieg said:

Didn't the plastic named BL dude from BSF also get rules?

 

He's not counted. I stated that in the OP

 

Just those that can be played in normal Tabletop with GW rules in the current timeline

 

(Tycho doesn't count since he's dead)

[Kastor Krieg]

8 hours ago, Moonreaper666 said:

 

He's not counted. I stated that in the OP

Just those that can be played in normal Tabletop with GW rules in the current timeline

(Tycho doesn't count since he's dead)

So why would you not count him, exactly? 

He has rules. He even has a Servants of the Abyss detachment.

[WrathOfTheLion]

Word Bearers, Iron Warriors, Alpha Legion and Night Lords have no named characters in the current tabletop game.

Edited April 11, 2023 by WrathOfTheLion

[Kastor Krieg]

1 hour ago, WrathOfTheLion said:

Word Bearers, Iron Warriors, Alpha Legion and Night Lords have no named characters in the current tabletop game.

Not true, Alpha Legion have Alpharius ;)

[WrathOfTheLion]

2 hours ago, Kastor Krieg said:

Not true, Alpha Legion have Alpharius ;)

Don't tell them, that just says 'Aspiring Champion' on the datasheet.

[danodan123]

On 4/11/2023 at 12:54 PM, Kastor Krieg said:

So why would you not count him, exactly? 

He has rules. He even has a Servants of the Abyss detachment.

 

He is a worse Chaos Lord that costs more points in game, only black legion and doesn't have the 'Traitoris Astartes' keyword, he's pointless :)

 

Does Vashtorr count?

[Xenith]

Moving this to Heretic Astartes where you can get feedback from the experts. 

Edited April 13, 2023 by Xenith

[Moonreaper666]

3 hours ago, danodan123 said:

 

He is a worse Chaos Lord that costs more points in game, only black legion and doesn't have the 'Traitoris Astartes' keyword, he's pointless :)

 

Does Vashtorr count?

 

Daemons don't count. Traitor Legion playable characters in the present timeline in the main game, not Blackstone

[WrathOfTheLion]

There's Huron Blackheart, if we promote Red Corsairs up to replace some of the Chaos Legions that were split out of Codex: Chaos Space Marines.

 

It would certainly be nice for them to promote at least one for each Chaos Legion that is missing one. I suspect Kor Phaeron may make his appearance at some point, as he has been fairly active in the current timeline, appearing in campaign series and novels (Psychic Awakening/Dawn of Fire).

[Moonreaper666]

29 minutes ago, WrathOfTheLion said:

There's Huron Blackheart, if we promote Red Corsairs up to replace some of the Chaos Legions that were split out of Codex: Chaos Space Marines.

 

It would certainly be nice for them to promote at least one for each Chaos Legion that is missing one. I suspect Kor Phaeron may make his appearance at some point, as he has been fairly active in the current timeline, appearing in campaign series and novels (Psychic Awakening/Dawn of Fire).

 

Wait, Kor isn't playable in 40k/present time Tabletop? What about Erebus?

[WrathOfTheLion]

10 hours ago, Moonreaper666 said:

 

Wait, Kor isn't playable in 40k/present time Tabletop? What about Erebus?

No, as I stated earlier, Word Bearers, Alpha Legion, Iron Warriors and Night Lords do not have any named characters as unique datasheets/miniatures in the 40k tabletop game. That is true, not hyperbole.

 

The exhausted list of all of them:

 

Red Corsairs

• Huron Blackheart

Dark Angels/Fallen

• Cypher

Creations of Bile (originates from Emperor's Children)

• Fabius Bile

Emperor's Children

• Lucius the Eternal

Iron Warriors - None

Night Lords - None

World Eaters

• Lord Invocatus
• Khârn the Betrayer
• Angron

Death Guard

• Typhus
• Mortarion

Thousand Sons

• Ahriman
• Magnus the Red

Black Legion

• Abaddon the Despoiler
• Haarken Worldclaimer

Word Bearers - None

Alpha Legion - None

Edited April 17, 2023 by WrathOfTheLion

[Moonreaper666]

On 4/17/2023 at 5:08 AM, WrathOfTheLion said:

No, as I stated earlier, Word Bearers, Alpha Legion, Iron Warriors and Night Lords do not have any named characters as unique datasheets/miniatures in the 40k tabletop game. That is true, not hyperbole.

 

The exhausted list of all of them:

 

Red Corsairs

• Huron Blackheart

Dark Angels/Fallen

• Cypher

Creations of Bile (originates from Emperor's Children)

• Fabius Bile

Emperor's Children

• Lucius the Eternal

Iron Warriors - None

Night Lords - None

World Eaters

• Lord Invocatus
• Khârn the Betrayer
• Angron

Death Guard

• Typhus
• Mortarion

Thousand Sons

• Ahriman
• Magnus the Red

Black Legion

• Abaddon the Despoiler
• Haarken Worldclaimer

Word Bearers - None

Alpha Legion - None

 

I feel each Traitor Legion (not Fallen or Red Corsairs) should each have four or five Special Characters

[Moonreaper666]

Each Loyalist geneseed line can have multiple characters (Dante and Seth for Sanginius while Helbretcht, Kantor, etc for Dorn) so to balance that out each Traitor Legion should have several Special characters

 

Each Traitor Legion should have several Special Characters that have one or more of the roles below:

 

1. Daemon Primarch or Daemon Prince. Huge tanks

 

2. Sorcerer. The best or most unique spell user

 

3. Vehicle Specialist. A buffed version of a vehicle unit

 

4. Duelist. Great at 1 vs 1

 

5. Unit Specialist. Boost specific units

 

6. Special/Gimmick. This character has some unique gimmick that can change the battlefield

 

7. Commanders. Able to boost the stats of all units or those near him

 

Emperor's Children:

 

-Fulgrim. Daemon Primarch and Sorcerer

 

-Fabius Bile. Special

 

-Lucius the Eternal. Duelist

 

-Eidolon. Commander

 

-Doomrider. Daemon Prince and Vehicle Specialist

 

Iron Warriors:

 

-Perturabo. Daemon Primarch and Unit Specialist. He boost Obliterators and Artillery

 

-Barban Falk the Warsmith. Daemon Prince and Unit specialist who boost Obliterators

 

-Honsou the Herald. Commander and Duelist

 

Night Lords:

 

-Krieg Archebus the Axemaster. Daemon Prince and Unit Specialist, he boost Raptors and Warp Talons

 

-Zso Sahaal. Duelist

 

-Decimus. Sorcerer and Commander

 

World Eaters:

 

-Angron

 

-Khârn

 

-Lord Invocatus. Vehicle Specialist

 

-Kargos Bloodspitter. Unit Specialist, he boost Khorne Beserkers

 

Death Guard:

 

-Mortarion

 

-Typhus the Traveler. Duelist and Sorcerer

 

-Ignatius Gulgor. Daemon Prince and Sorcerer

 

-Vorx the Lord of Silence. Commander and Unit Specialist, boost Plague Marines

 

Thousand Sons:

 

-Magnus

 

-Ahriman the Exiled

 

-Sanakt the Swordsman. Duelist

 

Black Legion

 

-Abaddon the Despoiler

 

-Iskandar Khayon. Sorcerer and Duelist

 

-Haarkon Worldclaimer. Unit Specialist and Commander, boost Raptors and Warp Talons

 

-Dhar'leth. Daemon Prince that can Deep Strike (being a former Night Lord)

 

Word Bearers:

 

-Lorgar the Illuminator. Daemon Primarch, Commander and Unit Specialist. Boost Possessed

 

-Kor Phaeron. Commander and Sorcerer

 

-Erebus. Commander and Sorcerer

 

-Marduk. Commander, Sorcerer and Duelist

 

-Sol Tagron. Vehicle Specialist, Dreadnought. Revived by Lorgar after his death

 

Alpha Legion:

 

-Alpha. Duelist and Commander

 

-Beta. Sorcerer and Unit Specialist, boost

 

-Gamma. Vehicle Specialist, rides a Daemon-possessed Land Speeder

 

-Omega. Daemon Prince

 

-Chi/Xi. Special, he can imitate other Special characters

 

-Zeta. Special, acts as a extra-powerful Vindicare Sniper on the battlefield

 

 

To balance things out there should be new rules:

 

-A Traitor Legion player either can't use more than one SC or have to pay more points

 

-Maybe negative debuffs when deploying certain pair of SCs, especially when having multiple Traitor Legions in the field