Brother Carpenter Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Hi. I was just leafing through wd487 and there is a red angel fluff section with battle reports. One of those speak of attacks by turned forces consisting of heretic astartes including black templars and crimson guard. Was one of the bt fluffs not that they couldnt be turned due to their religious zeal. Or is castallan draco finally revealing himself? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378458-wd-487-bt-traitors/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Brother Carpenter said: Was one of the bt fluffs not that they couldnt be turned due to their religious zeal Propaganda. Arkangilos, Khornestar and templargdt 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378458-wd-487-bt-traitors/#findComment-5940183 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Don't have 487 yet, but I assume the BTs in question were part of Indomitus Crusade Fleet Quartus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378458-wd-487-bt-traitors/#findComment-5940185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 There was old lore that no Templar had ever turned, not that they ever could. The could not was pretty much reserved for grey knights. That's a bit out of date unfortunately. Also, not sure if this is news. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378458-wd-487-bt-traitors/#findComment-5940186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 =][= Moved to the Black Templars subforum as this is more appropriate =][= Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378458-wd-487-bt-traitors/#findComment-5940187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution Nephaston Posted April 27, 2023 Solution Share Posted April 27, 2023 Well OBVIOUSLY if they turned they were not a TRUE Templar! -Quote from our local SW player but SW swapped for BT Harleqvin, Arkangilos and Gamiel 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378458-wd-487-bt-traitors/#findComment-5940195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urkh Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Urauloth said: Don't have 487 yet, but I assume the BTs in question were part of Indomitus Crusade Fleet Quartus. I haven't read the book, but Valrak did a video about how something angron did turned a ton of astartes, including Salamanders and Black Templars, to chaos through madness. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378458-wd-487-bt-traitors/#findComment-5940212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remain_Indoors Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Urkh said: I haven't read the book, but Valrak did a video about how something angron did turned a ton of astartes, including Salamanders and Black Templars, to chaos through madness. I have read the book and Its not the usual case of marines falling to chaos, but a supercharged version of Angrons rage reflected at them by a Psychic Beacon. It drove Indomitus Fleet Quartus into madness and Khorne worship. There are now Chaos corrupted Primaris Marines as a result. So while there are Chaos corrupted Black Templars, its through no fault of their own Edited April 27, 2023 by Remain_Indoors Grotsmasha and Urkh 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378458-wd-487-bt-traitors/#findComment-5940218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted April 27, 2023 Share Posted April 27, 2023 Pretty sure there was an Ex-Templar Red corsair in an Inferno story years ago too? It was a long time ago though, entirely possible im wrong :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378458-wd-487-bt-traitors/#findComment-5940262 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 2 hours ago, Noserenda said: Pretty sure there was an Ex-Templar Red corsair in an Inferno story years ago too? It was a long time ago though, entirely possible im wrong :D i remember that but i am not sure where i read that - or if it was fanfiction. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378458-wd-487-bt-traitors/#findComment-5940315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WARMASTER_ Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Everyone but the Emperor can fall to Chaos! I’m glad GW are highlighting it more Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378458-wd-487-bt-traitors/#findComment-5940421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Jobu Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Nonsense, It's just Alpha Legion traitors using equipment scavenged from fallen heroes to sew discord and unease throughout the loyalist forces. Nothing to see here, just keep moving along and going about your Emperor assigned duties. Thank You. =I= Arkangilos 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378458-wd-487-bt-traitors/#findComment-5940575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harleqvin Posted April 28, 2023 Share Posted April 28, 2023 Sadly or not, there are BT, and many other Imperium armies (including Primaris,) that have fallen to chaos through Angron blowing up a world with the power of Khorne. Fallen to chaos is fallen to chaos… Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378458-wd-487-bt-traitors/#findComment-5940659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Creature Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Dark Angels "Join the club!" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378458-wd-487-bt-traitors/#findComment-5941890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Richard Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 I remember at least three instances in which the Templar found themselves labeled inappropriately: The Crusade of the Ophidium Gulf, the Wars of Apostasy (closely followed by the Vandire Crusade), and the War of the Beast when the Imperial Fist 2nd founding chapters reformed the Legion in defense of Terra. Another point to mention is the continued strife between Templars and Inquisitors or others for not adhering to the Codex as stringently as other chapters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378458-wd-487-bt-traitors/#findComment-5942360 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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