WrathOfTheLion Posted May 14, 2023 Share Posted May 14, 2023 I would think so on the first, as there is no mentioned concept of a quadruple or higher, which would invalidate all below them if a triple couldn't be used as a double. I guess they may as well state that, to not give any room to someone that's not got the best of intentions. For the second, as written, it sounds like it does not count as one of them, but that'd be worth them clarifying. Borbarad 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378626-faction-focus-world-eaters/page/4/#findComment-5947624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 You choose up to two to activate, so it would take the most uncharitable reading of the rules as given to think it forced you into anything; combined with the literal rule as posted (where a number is specified, a double or triple of that value or higher is required), there's literally no way to read the rule that forces you to use a triple six to bring Angron back (Angron says you CAN, then followed up by an IF YOU DO), or a triple being unable to be used as a double; you pick the dice you use to activate the power, as stated in the rule itself. I'm not sure where the confusion lies. If anything, this is one of the more clear rules released with very little edge cases. Lord Blacksteel, Karhedron, Sarges and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378626-faction-focus-world-eaters/page/4/#findComment-5947634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 On 5/12/2023 at 10:54 AM, Kaiju Soze said: Heck, battle shock could just mean "unit is too disorientated by current circumstances to focus", which supports the move away from calling it morale. Seems to be the reasoning for being Battle-shocked when you fall out of a burning transport: Kallas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378626-faction-focus-world-eaters/page/4/#findComment-5947638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 1 hour ago, DemonGSides said: You choose up to two to activate, so it would take the most uncharitable reading of the rules as given to think it forced you into anything; combined with the literal rule as posted (where a number is specified, a double or triple of that value or higher is required), there's literally no way to read the rule that forces you to use a triple six to bring Angron back (Angron says you CAN, then followed up by an IF YOU DO), or a triple being unable to be used as a double; you pick the dice you use to activate the power, as stated in the rule itself. I'm not sure where the confusion lies. If anything, this is one of the more clear rules released with very little edge cases. It's definitely uncharitable, as by consequence a quadruple or quintuple (etc.) also couldn't count, or else we'd have to split into some sequence of doubles or triples. None of those concepts exist at all in the rule, so contorting it to add so many nonexistent mechanics for advantage would be quite ridiculous. Still, I wouldn't be shocked if someone tried to do it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378626-faction-focus-world-eaters/page/4/#findComment-5947640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallas Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 9 hours ago, BitsHammer said: Seems to be the reasoning for being Battle-shocked when you fall out of a burning transport: That is a very interesting tidbit! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378626-faction-focus-world-eaters/page/4/#findComment-5947751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadEdric Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 I like the new Blessings rule. Keeps the book keeping down. It seems easy to me how it works. You role the dice and then select dice from the pool created to spend to choose your powers. Spending means you use it, so yes, a triple roll should be able to be used for a double, but could not be used for a double and a triple as choosing one option means you no longer have the dice you have spent. If you Roll three 1s and you could choose options 1,2,4, or 5. 1 and 2 as you can spend two of the 1s to meet the “Any Double” requirement, and spend three to meet the “Any Triple”. If you get three 3s, option 3 also becomes available, as you can produce double 3s. With 8 dice you are always getting at least two doubles or a triple each roll Emicus, andes, Xenith and 2 others 4 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378626-faction-focus-world-eaters/page/4/#findComment-5947798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) According to the new functionality on the GW website where you can filter by rules keywords, both lord Invocatus and eightbound will have the scout rule. Make of that what you will, it is far from an official rules source but this is extra interesting because these two units are the only ones in the entire chaos section to have scout. No chaos units innately have infiltrate, either. Exalted eightbound have deep strike (plus angron and terminators, which we knew). Edited June 7, 2023 by Khornestar danodan123, Blight1, Sea Creature and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378626-faction-focus-world-eaters/page/4/#findComment-5956096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spessmarine Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 4 hours ago, Khornestar said: According to the new functionality on the GW website where you can filter by rules keywords, both lord Invocatus and eightbound will have the scout rule. Make of that what you will, it is far from an official rules source but this is extra interesting because these two units are the only ones in the entire chaos section to have scout. No chaos units innately have infiltrate, either. Khorne Scouts wasn't entirely a disaster. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378626-faction-focus-world-eaters/page/4/#findComment-5956144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithrilForge Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 I’m sure the Khorne Scouts will earn a lot of badges … M Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378626-faction-focus-world-eaters/page/4/#findComment-5956165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrés Pacheco Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Dybs for the Dyb God!! Dobs for the Dob Throne!! MithrilForge 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378626-faction-focus-world-eaters/page/4/#findComment-5956230 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Large and Moving Torb Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 15 hours ago, Khornestar said: According to the new functionality on the GW website where you can filter by rules keywords, both lord Invocatus and eightbound will have the scout rule. Make of that what you will, it is far from an official rules source but this is extra interesting because these two units are the only ones in the entire chaos section to have scout. No chaos units innately have infiltrate, either. Exalted eightbound have deep strike (plus angron and terminators, which we knew). Interesting. I'm glad I picked up a couple boxes of Eightbound before they vanished from the shelves. One thing to note though: the keyword functionality doesn't seem quite right. If you check both "Chaos Space Marines" and the "Psyker" box, the Sorcerer and Sorcerer Lord in Terminator Armor don't show up. Unless both have dropped that keyword in the 10th rules? Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378626-faction-focus-world-eaters/page/4/#findComment-5956336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DemonGSides Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 (edited) They aren't finished with site updates, plenty of units missing keyword affiliations; Mortarion doesn't have Fly, Angron appears in Characters instead of Epic Hero. Looking at the webstore is going to be an exercise in madness; assume anything labelled as such HAS that label, but it also probably has a bunch of other labels that may or may not be showing up. Like, surely Poxwalkers will be battleline in 10th, but they are also missing the tag from the store. Edited June 7, 2023 by DemonGSides Scribe and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378626-faction-focus-world-eaters/page/4/#findComment-5956338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 Yeah the keyword system is completely unreliable on the site. Thats not new either its been like that for a very long time. DemonGSides, Oxydo, tzeentch9 and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378626-faction-focus-world-eaters/page/4/#findComment-5956394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Creature Posted June 7, 2023 Share Posted June 7, 2023 What’s the link? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378626-faction-focus-world-eaters/page/4/#findComment-5956439 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Sea Creature said: What’s the link? The games workshop website? Khornestar and MithrilForge 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378626-faction-focus-world-eaters/page/4/#findComment-5956477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Creature Posted June 8, 2023 Share Posted June 8, 2023 Okay I’m so dumb… Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378626-faction-focus-world-eaters/page/4/#findComment-5956496 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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