Tokugawa Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 This is THE most broken previewed datasheets I have seen so far. Emperor Ming, Doctor Perils, Shield-Captain and 1 other 1 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellex_The_Thanatar Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 27 minutes ago, Tokugawa said: This is THE most broken previewed datasheets I have seen so far. Why does it have a 4++?? Has the warwalker had that before?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hellex_The_Thanatar said: Why does it have a 4++?? Has the warwalker had that before?? 5++ before. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) Jump pack keyword… why isn’t this in the core rules? For cuss sake. Edited June 3, 2023 by Khornestar Kallas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Large and Moving Torb, Kallas, Shield-Captain and 1 other 2 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Large and Moving Torb Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Been watching the game. Those datasheet cards look big! I thought they'd be a bit smaller. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 This is just getting silly now. Sergeant Bastone and Captain Idaho 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Khornestar said: Jump pack keyword… why isn’t this in the core rules? For cuss sake. Maybe it's like Psyker where the keyword has no inherit Traits but other things key off it? Oxydo, Khornestar, Kallas and 3 others 3 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954534 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Large and Moving Torb said: Been watching the game. Those datasheet cards look big! I thought they'd be a bit smaller. Gotta remember that some of them there wargamers are getting up there in the years, so you need big cards for the big enough text and so they are less droppable. Edited June 3, 2023 by Nephaston a word DemonGSides, Ammonius, RolandTHTG and 3 others 3 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultramarine1999 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Kallas 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoatibix Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Wave Serpent twin linked weapons- some have the number of attacks equal two two of that weapon, but others don’t. I’m puzzled that Dire Avengers are only OC 1. Flipped the Scorpions for easier reading. Doctor Perils, Toxichobbit, Kallas and 1 other 1 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954558 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo1701 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 I don’t understand why the sticky objectives rule wasn’t just called objective secured and put in the core rules. I thought hey were moving away from needless repetition and using different names for the same rule and this one comes up so often it would have made sense. Dark Shepherd, Khornestar, Zoatibix and 5 others 3 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954560 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Zoatibix said: Wave Serpent twin linked weapons- some have the number of attacks equal two two of that weapon, but others don’t. I’m puzzled that Dire Avengers are only OC 1. Yes, definitely a typo, otherwise Starcannons are going to rule to roost. TL is slightly redundant though with the Unparalleled Foresight ability (although I suppose there might be other Detachment abilities in future). The other thing missing from the Serpent datasheet is the Transport Capacity. I assume it will stay at 12. It looks like only units that were Troops in 9th get OC 2. Avengers annoyingly got bumped in to Elites. Still, Assault 3 and Auto-wounding on 6s is quite nice, especially if a nearby Jetseer casts Guide on them. Warp Spiders are insanely fast but have dropped to S4 and lost their signature 2nd move ability. Still, they will be good for snagging distant Objectives if kept alive into the late game. War Walkers look solid but looks like they are taken individually now rather than in squadrons. Unparalleled Foresight will be really good on these. Support Weapons look good and the suppressive fire is nice. I can see 3 Shadow Weavers hidden deep in the back field plinking away at any enemy heavy weapon squads just to keep them suppressed all game. Any wounds caused would just be a bonus. Striking Scorpions look much as they did in 9th. Infiltration and shredding light infantry. Edited June 3, 2023 by Karhedron Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954568 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 I actually don't mind Dire Avengers being OC 1. They're otherwise quite good at holding an objective thanks to decent overwatch and can lay down decent anti-infantry firepower. Crucially Guardians still have a purpose. Warwalkers seem suspiciously resilient and laden with heavy weapons, they'll be awful to face. Never understood why Wave Serpents have a shield that shoots lasers. What is this Austin Powers? Striking Scorpions looks interesting as generate a lot of attacks. I can't make out the words exactly for their Maniblasters... is that when targeting or when not targeting monsters and vehicles? Would be confusingly strange to have them a torrent of attacks against large targets that are the threat but it is original! D-Cannons look disgusting. I think they'll lose out to Warwalkers though. Overall, it looks like Eldar will be a leaf-blower style army. They'll try and blow you off the board with immense firepower. Why risk Striking Scorpions when you could invest points in more shooting stuff, right? Khornestar and Karhedron 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: Warwalkers seem suspiciously resilient and laden with heavy weapons, they'll be awful to face. Assuming they are not Battleline you will only face a maximum of 3 since it looks like they cannot be squadroned anymore. I agree they do look good though. 10 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: Never understood why Wave Serpents have a shield that shoots lasers. What is this Austin Powers? That goes back to the original Epic version that looked like a steam iron. The shields were meant to be good protection for the troops inside while they advanced. Then when the troops disembarked, the Serpents discharged their shields to stun nearby enemies. 10 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: Striking Scorpions looks interesting as generate a lot of attacks. I can't make out the words exactly for their Maniblasters... is that when targeting or when not targeting monsters and vehicles? Would be confusingly strange to have them a torrent of attacks against large targets that are the threat but it is original! It says "when targeting units without the MONSTER or VEHICLE keywords". Slightly disappointed that Karandras is T3 and and Ld6+. Not very impressive for a millennia old reincarnating hero. Looks like the Phoenix Lords will be easy targets for Epic Challenge. 10 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: D-Cannons look disgusting. I think they'll lose out to Warwalkers though. Captain Idaho 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Unseen Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Looking forward to seeing the space-elves maintain their record as always being S-tier in every 40k edition. Those support weapons and war-walkers are definitely profiles all right. Khornestar, Toxichobbit and Karhedron 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 4 enhancements: 6 strats: Vyper: Windrunners: Warlock skyrunner: Rangers: Karhedron and Kallas 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoatibix Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 @Karhedron ah, the change back and forth between Troops and Elites is always confusing me with Tyranids, too. OC for former Troops is logical, then. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Ah didn't realise Warwalkers can't be squadroned anymore. Thank goodness as that would be too strong. Liking the Striking Scorpion rules in that case. Always a favourite of mine, they'll be very dangerous with a torrent attacks to everything just about. Also, I totally forgot about the old Iron shaped Wave Serpents! Though I'd prefer the shock wave element to a ranged attack. Actually is more cinematic to pin opposition etc. Perhaps impose a -1 to shooting and movement? Karandras was one of my favourites alongside the striking scorpions. He doesn't particularly feel tough but if my poor eyes can just make out, on the charge he gets to cause a lot of Mortal Wounds? Emperor Ming 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Warp spiders look a bit nuts. Move 24", dump 12D6 auto-hitting shots into something (assume units of 10), and every 6 to wound is a MW. Find some reroll wounds for them and go fishing. Kastor Krieg and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 20 minutes ago, Captain Idaho said: Karandras was one of my favourites alongside the striking scorpions. He doesn't particularly feel tough but if my poor eyes can just make out, on the charge he gets to cause a lot of Mortal Wounds? Yeah, Phoenix Lords are not tough but will usually be hidden behind a squad of Aspect Warriors so perhaps it will work out OK. Snipers or anything with PRECISION will absolutely wreck them though. He does look like a pretty tasty MW generator. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandrorect Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 2 hours ago, jimbo1701 said: I don’t understand why the sticky objectives rule wasn’t just called objective secured and put in the core rules. I thought hey were moving away from needless repetition and using different names for the same rule and this one comes up so often it would have made sense. Because GW wants that all units have at leat one special ability "unique" to the unit. You only need to see all the dataset we kwon until now. If the rule you said have to be a core rule, the unit will have nothing "unique" Blindhamster and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Phenoix gem is cool. Who can bring it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tokugawa said: Phenoix gem is cool. Who can bring it? From the wording it looks like any Character apart from named ones. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, sandrorect said: Because GW wants that all units have at leat one special ability "unique" to the unit. You only need to see all the dataset we kwon until now. If the rule you said have to be a core rule, the unit will have nothing "unique" If the rule is used by multiple factions or units, printing a fresh copy of the rule doesn't make it unique Edited June 3, 2023 by Captain Idaho Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/6/#findComment-5954625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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