Khornestar Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Kallas said: Honestly, I don't see why people are expecting 1-3 War Walker Squadrons going away. Unit Composition is on the 'back' of a Datasheet, so we haven't seen it. I fully expect (but could of course be wrong) that WWs can still be taken 1-3, very likely the same for Vypers. I can’t speak for anyone else, but I’m not expecting anything one way or another. Im more curious specifically about the functionality of the squadron keyword. In the past, it allowed them to deploy together and afterward be treated as separate units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Well, hello there! Kallas, Karhedron, Zoatibix and 3 others 3 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 The Avatar looks solid. Pretty similar to his 9th ed profile. 1 less attack but he does not degrade until he gets down to 5 wounds. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blight1 Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Why is he tougher to kill than a GUO or Morty? Why is he killier? Points matter but I can't imagine they'll make him more expensive than Morty. Tokugawa, Plaguecaster and Khornestar 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) Please take with a massive dose of salt, this is from Reddit and everyone seemed determined to whine about eldar, BUT, if this is true : Someone on discord is saying during the stream it was mentioned that 95% of wargear is free. Dunno if that means game wide, for eldar, or if it’s true at all. Can anyone verify? I skipped the stream. Edited June 3, 2023 by Khornestar Sergeant Bastone 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 1 hour ago, Khornestar said: Well, hello there! Try Worfing this Holy moly, this is a huge step up! Magos Takatus 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverstu Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, Khornestar said: Please take with a massive dose of salt, this is from Reddit and everyone seemed determined to whine about eldar, BUT, if this is true : Still depends are they cheaper relative to every other faction. Votann are expecting points drops- armies might generally be getting bigger again. Khornestar and Emperor Ming 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rain Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Calm down guys, historically speaking, Eldar have never had broken units or combos. I’m sure having powerful attacks on top of the ability to sub in preset values for rolls will be just fine. After all, they can’t sub in *every* roll that they make, which means it’s balanced. Kastor Krieg, Toxichobbit, Khornestar and 4 others 6 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) IDK why people are concerned about Eldar D-Weapons now when, during 6th and 7th, they were arguably more powerful by being Strength: D when that was a thing and you still didnt really see them flood the board with such weapons en-masse. Edited June 3, 2023 by Slips Doctor Perils, Lord Blacksteel, Xenith and 2 others 4 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 (edited) Well, 10th is the soon-to-be current edition of the game, would be my reason. Really, in the end I only minimally want to complain vs. point out some of these really strong options. Edited June 3, 2023 by Khornestar phandaal 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Bastone Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Back then they could just scatterbike my Russes in the butt all day. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Who else suspects that GW want to increase Eldar sales Though I wonder, where do Eldar sit in a global sales ranking of 40k. While obviously Space Marines would be top (and ive heard Sisters are also quite popluar) where does everyone else sit? Ammonius 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954827 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShibeKing Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Fingers crossed the Hornets and Shadow Spectres turn out to be decent. I really need to get an Avatar... VengefulJan and TrawlingCleaner 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 26 minutes ago, silverstu said: Still depends are they cheaper relative to every other faction. Votann are expecting points drops- armies might generally be getting bigger again. Votann players are expecting points drops because Votann got absolutely rekt by the 10th edition balance pass. If Eldar are sitting at 2300 "9th Ed" points with these rules, I must be looking at 3000 points for my Votann. Sergeant Bastone 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 The Daemon one is about 2200 in 9th money too, one of the DG is 2100. Points have changed, we have no idea to what yet. These datasheets are undoubtedly strong, their points will make a huge difference 37 minutes ago, ZeroWolf said: Who else suspects that GW want to increase Eldar sales Though I wonder, where do Eldar sit in a global sales ranking of 40k. While obviously Space Marines would be top (and ive heard Sisters are also quite popluar) where does everyone else sit? If GW made rules to increase sales for factions, FW models wouldn't be going to Legends Lord Blacksteel and Vardus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 40 minutes ago, ZeroWolf said: Who else suspects that GW want to increase Eldar sales Though I wonder, where do Eldar sit in a global sales ranking of 40k. While obviously Space Marines would be top (and ive heard Sisters are also quite popluar) where does everyone else sit? If GW want to increase Eldar sales, then they could release the rest of the aspects in plastic Iron Father Ferrum, MadEdric, Zoatibix and 5 others 3 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vardus Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 15 minutes ago, TrawlingCleaner said: The Daemon one is about 2200 in 9th money too, one of the DG is 2100. Points have changed, we have no idea to what yet. These datasheets are undoubtedly strong, their points will make a huge difference Ha, just been doing a quick points costing myself and came to roughly this points costing. So it looks like no points creep but points reduction. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 I'm pretty sure its always been reduction, at least since I started playing in 5th. That way you can buy more models Iron Father Ferrum and ZeroWolf 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rune Priest Jbickb said: I'm pretty sure its always been reduction, at least since I started playing in 5th. That way you can buy more models Pretty much what happened to WFB in my understanding, points costs were lowered so you had to buy more for the same pts level games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitnam Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, Rune Priest Jbickb said: I'm pretty sure its always been reduction, at least since I started playing in 5th. That way you can buy more models I'm pretty sure 9th was marked by points increases for many factions Karhedron and Xenith 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954853 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrawlingCleaner Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 Crumbsssss, that's a big datasheet! BS4+ offsets the damage output but that's still a lot! Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954888 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 My years of playing Iyanden have been rewarded! Losing -1 Damage is pretty well offset by T7 and a 2+ save. TrawlingCleaner and Kallas 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 3, 2023 Share Posted June 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, Karhedron said: My years of playing Iyanden have been rewarded! Losing -1 Damage is pretty well offset by T7 and a 2+ save. Wraithdar finally worthwile. Now we just need more wraiths if they add more units in an eldar wave of stuff. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
boblikesoup Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Is it not strange that the number of fate die doesn't scale with the points value of the game? Like 12 at 3k is 1/3 as useful as 12 at 1k for the most part, whereas other factions' abilities scale with army size. Is this bad design or am I missing something? Toxichobbit, Sergeant Bastone, Doctor Perils and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Priest Jbickb Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Wraith data sheet made my night! They are the coolest thing in Eldar and my Iyanden rejoice Zoatibix and Karhedron 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378657-faction-focus-aeldari/page/8/#findComment-5954942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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