Warhammer 40k Core Rules Leaked

[Slat3]

2 hours ago, MadEdric said:

Have we yet seen what a Psychic weapon does? Or is it most likely a keyword for strats?

As of right now it is a meaningless keyword used to give units FNPs and other defensive measures against it. There were seemingly pages missing from the core rules leak, so maybe we’re missing something. As it stands, if you have two similar profiles, one with the psychic keyword and one without, the one without is the better option. Maybe more clarification with the TSons preview.

[Khornestar]

From my local discord with no source:

 

Unit sizes will be based on the number of minis in the box and will be reinforced like AoS.

 

I don’t play AoS so I have no idea what that means.

[Emperor Ming]

6 minutes ago, Khornestar said:

I don’t play AoS so I have no idea what that means.

I believe its just duplicates of the box size

 

So an example might be ork boys, if they were 10-20 means you could take 11 or 18 etc

 

But with the aos system it would be ten or twenty because the box is ten models

 

That's my best guess anyway

[Khornestar]

 

5 minutes ago, Emperor Ming said:

I believe its just duplicates of the box size

 

So an example might be ork boys, if they were 10-20 means you could take 11 or 18 etc

 

But with the aos system it would be ten or twenty because the box is ten models

 

That's my best guess anyway

 

Gross. I hope that’s fake.

[redmapa]

If that's what it  means then the CSM legionnaire datasheet debunks that rumor since its 1-4 or 1-9 same as it is now.

[Emperor Ming]

1 minute ago, redmapa said:

If that's what it  means then the CSM legionnaire datasheet debunks that rumor since its 1-4 or 1-9 same as it is now.

But on the other hand, the guard datasheet goes against that because its almost a txt book example of that sort of craziness

 

9 and 1 sgt or 18 and 2 sgts

[spessmarine]

4 minutes ago, redmapa said:

If that's what it  means then the CSM legionnaire datasheet debunks that rumor since its 1-4 or 1-9 same as it is now.

 

Yep

 

[Khornestar]

There is this, though:

 

 

10 or 20, not 10-20. Maybe not universal for all factions?

[spessmarine]

Isn't that same unit locked to exactly 10 currently? So now rather than only 10 you can do 10 or 20.

[Khornestar]

1 minute ago, spessmarine said:

Isn't that same unit locked to exactly 10 currently? So now rather than only 10 you can do 10 or 20.

Yeah but my question would have been whether or not that applies to every unit in the game, but that clearly isn’t the case based on the legionaries, thankfully.

[spessmarine]

18 hours ago, Lemondish said:

 

And hopefully DW, too. Two editions in a row the big bad is an alien menace, yet the premier alien killers aren't getting much attention. Feels like a missed opportunity.

 

Oh totally

 

6 hours ago, Dracos said:

hmmm …. I would say that patience of the WS/Sallie/RG has earned them their turn at a true Codex over the spoiled with riches of the old flavors. 
 

 

Just going off the pecking order here

Edited May 25, 2023 by spessmarine

[Emperor Ming]

The leaked points lists so far, if correct look exactly like aos, so boys 85/170

 

Meaning they no longer have an individual points cost

 

Marine factions might be the exception maybe

[Cryptix]

17 minutes ago, Emperor Ming said:

The leaked points lists so far, if correct look exactly like aos, so boys 85/170

 

Meaning they no longer have an individual points cost

 

Marine factions might be the exception maybe

I saw that leak, it's fake. A wishlist from 4chan.

[ThePenitentOne]

6 hours ago, MadEdric said:

Have we yet seen what a Psychic weapon does? Or is it most likely a keyword for strats?

Psychic Attack is a Keyword- SoS get a 3+ FNP vs. all psychic attacks.

 

There will probably be strats too, but I don't know if we've seen any yet.

[Kaiju Soze]

8 hours ago, MadEdric said:

Have we yet seen what a Psychic weapon does? Or is it most likely a keyword for strats?

A few times; it's a keyword on weapon profiles such as CSM Legionaries' Balefire Tome. Said weapons otherwise work like any other weapon.

[spessmarine]

On 5/21/2023 at 1:36 AM, Vanger said:

In a FB response they said, that supplement marines (DA, BA, SW, DW) won't get any preview. 

 

But Imperial Agents is on the list of the faction. 

 

Anyway, it seems they want to finish the faction prebiews untill the preorder will be announced in a "Next Week in Warhammer" article. 

 

Or maybe not.

 

 

[Rhavien]

Nice! Whatever changed their mind or if it was just a wrong statement, that the snowflakes won't get an article, I'd be happy to see what to expect from 10th for my red boys 

[Interrogator Stobz]

They did say they won't get individual Faction Focus Articles. 

Looks like they will get a combined one.

Edited May 25, 2023 by Interrogator Stobz

[Iron Father Imeran Byon]

10 hours ago, ThePenitentOne said:

Psychic Attack is a Keyword- SoS get a 3+ FNP vs. all psychic attacks.

 

There will probably be strats too, but I don't know if we've seen any yet.

Just a small nitpick: The rules say that anything with the PSYCHIC keyword that causes wounds counts as a Psychic Attack.
So Psychic Attack isn't the keyword. It's just what PSYCHIC weapons, stratagems, abilities etc. do when they deal damage.

This is done so that the SoS also get the 3+++ against Abilities like the Knight Abominant's Warp Storms.

[Indy Techwisp]

1 hour ago, Iron Father Imeran Byon said:

Just a small nitpick: The rules say that anything with the PSYCHIC keyword that causes wounds counts as a Psychic Attack.
So Psychic Attack isn't the keyword. It's just what PSYCHIC weapons, stratagems, abilities etc. do when they deal damage.

This is done so that the SoS also get the 3+++ against Abilities like the Knight Abominant's Warp Storms.

 

Adding to this, SoS get their bonus to our TSons Cabal Rituals too, as long as they're dealing damage to the SoS.

[FarvegNugan]

Guard has been ten mansquads minimum since always. Bad example to use that it's all like in box like AoS.

[apologist]

Yeah, @FarvegNugan has it right – the Guard's fixed squad numbers have a long precedent, but haven't been representative of the broader game in past editions. I see no reason to suspect that will be the case in 10th, either – particularly when we've seen counter-examples.

[marspeople]

How does Lethal Hits react with Sustained Hits?

Do the extra hits from SH also become LH? 

 

[Doobles57]

5 hours ago, marspeople said:

How does Lethal Hits react with Sustained Hits?

Do the extra hits from SH also become LH? 

 

Initial reading of it is no they don't. Sustained Hits says that Critical Hits generate X additional hits (not additional Critical Hits). Lethal Hits keys of Critical Hits so the additional hits from SH wouldn't also auto wound.

 

That's how I read it anyway. 

18 hours ago, Iron Father Imeran Byon said:

Just a small nitpick: The rules say that anything with the PSYCHIC keyword that causes wounds counts as a Psychic Attack.
So Psychic Attack isn't the keyword. It's just what PSYCHIC weapons, stratagems, abilities etc. do when they deal damage.

This is done so that the SoS also get the 3+++ against Abilities like the Knight Abominant's Warp Storms.

I missed this earlier, thanks for pointing out. Answered a question I was raising in the TSons thread about Doombolt vs SoS. This is the result I was hoping for!

[Trickstick]

6 hours ago, marspeople said:

How does Lethal Hits react with Sustained Hits?

Do the extra hits from SH also become LH? 

 

 

As the extra sustained hits are not critical hits, as they have not rolled 6s, I would say that they are not lethal hits.