Newbiticus Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 When a Leader joins a unit of say a unit of CSM Chosen does the Leader inherit abilities like "Chosen Marauders" or does the addition of a Leader to a unit prevent such a rule from functioning? For reference: "Chosen Marauders: This unit is eligible to shoot and declare a charge in a turn in which it Advanced or Fell Back." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379016-10th-edition-do-leaders-inherit-unit-special-abilities/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solution TrawlingCleaner Posted June 15, 2023 Solution Share Posted June 15, 2023 Please excuse my wobbly highlighting: Rules that affect the entire unit affect the Leader model too. There are some Leader Rules that affect the Leader model itself rather than the unit, which is something to keep an eye out for Xenith and Petitioner's City 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379016-10th-edition-do-leaders-inherit-unit-special-abilities/#findComment-5960225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 7 hours ago, Newbiticus said: This unit As soon as the Leader joins, he is part of that unit, so is affected by the rule! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379016-10th-edition-do-leaders-inherit-unit-special-abilities/#findComment-5960233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbiticus Posted June 15, 2023 Author Share Posted June 15, 2023 Thank you both, I knew I read it somewhere. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379016-10th-edition-do-leaders-inherit-unit-special-abilities/#findComment-5960277 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Grimskull Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 A further question related to this: Since the models are considered a single unit, I assume the unit gains all the related keywords of the related sheets. If that's the case then aren't like all the models in the unit Character models since they gain the character keyword when the leader joins? I ask because if that's the case, how does the Space Marine apothecary work? I've been having a heck of a time wrapping my head around that and things like the assassination secondary or stuff with the anti universal rule x_X Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379016-10th-edition-do-leaders-inherit-unit-special-abilities/#findComment-5962136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 and certain unit rules don't transfer, scout being an example. Gw certainly opened a can of balance worms here Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379016-10th-edition-do-leaders-inherit-unit-special-abilities/#findComment-5962161 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallas Posted June 19, 2023 Share Posted June 19, 2023 (edited) 15 hours ago, Lord Grimskull said: If that's the case then aren't like all the models in the unit Character models since they gain the character keyword when the leader joins? I ask because if that's the case, how does the Space Marine apothecary work? No, the unit gains all of the combined keywords but the models still only have the ones of their datasheet. So a Leader, let's say a Terminator Librarian, joining a unit, a Terminator Squad, will make that unit both a character unit and a Psyker unit, but the Terminator models themselves will be neither characters nor Psykers. What will matter is how other abilities interact, for example Precision: this allows the attacker to allocate successful wounds to a character model, which is only the Terminator Librarian. But something like the Sisters of Silence Vigilators (I think? The greatsword ones) with their Anti-Psyker 4+ attacks don't care about who is a Psyker just that the unit they are attacking is - and that is because the wounds aren't allocated until after they've already benefitted from the Anti-Psyker keyword; think of it like them trying to cut through to get at the Psyker hidden behind the Terminators. Edited June 19, 2023 by Kallas TrawlingCleaner 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379016-10th-edition-do-leaders-inherit-unit-special-abilities/#findComment-5962380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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