BolterZorro Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Nova-V said: This is my biggest worry for LI. It's promoted as large scale game with the promo vid showing full armies clashing. Yet if pricing follows AI/AT the cost of getting such forces on the table will outstrip 40k at 2,000 points. I love the look of the models and I love the idea of a high level game, I just don't want to be priced out of it. Epic has always been cheaper than 40k. I hope, it(ll stay this way. And for example: with 2 starts + 1 AT starter, you already have 2 pretty nice armies for a fraction of the cost of 1 40k army. I am really curious how GW will make his ROI with such tiny minis (no need of a lot of sprue to build an army) Edited July 6, 2023 by BolterZorro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 12 minutes ago, BolterZorro said: Epic has always been cheaper than 40k. I hope, it(ll stay this way. And for example: with 2 starts + 1 AT starter, you already have 2 pretty nice armies for a fraction of the cost of 1 40k army. I am really curious how GW will make his ROI with such tiny minis (no need of a lot of sprue to build an army) More guys in a box for normal GW box prices then "oh look it's epic you better have 600 of them!" so you need as many boxes as a normal army for the rest of their games. I hope it follows AT and runs on a 4x4 with a middling volume of models so you get the visuals but on a smaller space. MithrilForge, Interrogator Stobz and TheWarmaster 2 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWarmaster Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 19 minutes ago, Mogger351 said: More guys in a box for normal GW box prices then "oh look it's epic you better have 600 of them!" so you need as many boxes as a normal army for the rest of their games. I hope it follows AT and runs on a 4x4 with a middling volume of models so you get the visuals but on a smaller space. I concur massssssively! 4x4 would be great. Although, it would be cool for 6x4 or even larger if people wanted to have absolutely massive battles. I'd be sticking with the 4x4 middling size though haha. Couldn't be bothered to move that many tiny models haha. Interrogator Stobz and MithrilForge 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterZorro Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Although I understand the 4*4 emphasis, I don't really see GW not encouraging the 6*4, just because it will be really difficult for them to make enough money with armies being that cheap, especially when you include few titans in your build, titans that many players may already have. I see GW giving 2 sizes, 4*4 and 6*4, like in 40k, 6*4 being the main. Remember than the surface occupied by the minis in IL is almost the same as the other games. (25mm infantry and all the tanks being at least this size) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanDutch Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Now I’ve got visions of playing on a giant Plotter board like the ones the RAF used to track air squadrons in WW2, but this time the sticks will be used to push Titans about… Arendious and DemonGSides 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaster1988 Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Found in a Facebook Group: CaptainFrederickson, Matcap86, Dark Shepherd and 4 others 4 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Interesting, i would expect 3-4 too, especially as the old epic contemptor was one piece :D 7-8 means they must have some flex in the arms or legs which means a lot more posing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcomet Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, Noserenda said: Interesting, i would expect 3-4 too, especially as the old epic contemptor was one piece :D 7-8 means they must have some flex in the arms or legs which means a lot more posing. 2 part body. Reactor backpack. 2 arms. 2 part legs/waist. Is my guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jukkiz Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 i would guess torso is 1, waist is 2, legs are 3-4, arms are 5-6 and backbag/reactor is 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naryn Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 I assume the 8th is the havoc launcher? Interrogator Stobz 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 I dont think theyve shown any Havoks? I suspect 7-8 means there are 8 parts but that includes 2 different arm guns in the Lascannon and Assault cannon? Interrogator Stobz 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 Anyone want to hazard a guess about Smolnaughts' base size? With them being lower I can't really tell. AT Armigers are on 25s, anyone got a size comparison between 40k Contemptor and Armiger heights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Interrogator Stobz said: Anyone want to hazard a guess about Smolnaughts' base size? With them being lower I can't really tell. AT Armigers are on 25s, anyone got a size comparison between 40k Contemptor and Armiger heights? Looks like they're on 25s to me, but that is just squinting at the photos. Edited July 6, 2023 by Lord Marshal Interrogator Stobz 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 I am not surprised the Dread is in 8 pieces. I think people might be underestimating how big these will actually be. You’re gonna be looking at Micro Machine/Hot Wheels sized tanks. I was blow away by the detail on the Quaestoris knights, and just looking at the infantry on 25s is already convincing me to do full squads of 10 on 40s if the rules allow. Interrogator Stobz 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted July 6, 2023 Share Posted July 6, 2023 They confirmed 25mm for infantry and dreadnoughts on social media, interestingly, looking at the original pic one of the dreads does have a bent leg at the knee, so i suspect the groin and upper legs is one piece, and the rest of the leg(s?) are seperate. Interrogator Stobz 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) Cheers Brother. The AT Armigers are about 26mm high and a real Contemptor is about 70mm ÷4= 17mm, so that does look about right now I think about it. Edited July 7, 2023 by Interrogator Stobz Sp. Noserenda 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warmaster1988 Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Captain Idaho and MithrilForge 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Well that’s unfortunate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armarnis Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 What tablesizes do you Guys expect? I think AT ist played on 48x48? Our Club is moving Locations and i gonna reserve place for some modular tiles :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colman Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 3 hours ago, DuskRaider said: Well that’s unfortunate. Inevitable, and leaves space for AT as a titan piloting simulation. DuskRaider and apologist 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colman Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 1 hour ago, armarnis said: What tablesizes do you Guys expect? I think AT ist played on 48x48? Our Club is moving Locations and i gonna reserve place for some modular tiles :) AT was 4x4 to leave space on a 6x4 table for the consoles, apparently. I’d expect from 4x4 to the big end of 40K, which is 48”x 90”? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterZorro Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 7 hours ago, Interrogator Stobz said: he AT Armigers are about 26mm high and a real Contemptor is about 70mm ÷4= 17mm, so that does look about right now I think about it. I'm confident that GW will launch an arminger kit for both games. It is typically the size and the tiny kit for IL and that is missing (in plastic) in AT. They will sell it super fast. skylerboodie 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 Yep, I think LI will get plastic for most things. LI Armigers will be cool for supporting an AdMech force. Cannot wait until August for LI to launch.... MithrilForge 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterZorro Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, Interrogator Stobz said: Cannot wait until August for LI to launch.... more likely september: I've read pre order 08/26...(maybe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted July 7, 2023 Share Posted July 7, 2023 (edited) A Late Aug Pre order for LI will do me, makes it a Birthday launch; thanks for the deets. Edited July 7, 2023 by Interrogator Stobz Extra bits MithrilForge 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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