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If those rules sheets are correct, and to a degree even if they are not, there won't be a load of granularity within the unit types rules.

Otherwise the game will struggle to flow when army numbers are scaled up to the Epic Apocalypse goal.

7 hours ago, apologist said:

First thoughts – I'm sceptical; but if these are the stats there are some interesting bits and bobs.

 

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  • Movement in imperial, rather than the more familiar (to Epic players) metric. 5in move for Marine infantry sounds reasonable – if the Advance and March orders remain (to   double and triple move respectively), that'd allow for quite some pace.

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It seems like Imperial measurements are already confirmed by the box contents:

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Those are the same old plastic range sticks they bundle in every skirmish game, and they only have inches on them. How is long distance shooting going to be handled if they only go up to 18"?

Could it be that anything that shoots further has infinite range (effectively?)

 

If I remember rightly, they did have blue range finders for epic before, with metric measurements?

 

Wish they wouldn't use a pic of measuring sticks that are wonky like that though. Seems unprofessional and I want folk to be impressed with the game.

 

I guess it don't matter as the micro machines are what people are buying.

1 hour ago, Captain Idaho said:

If I remember rightly, they did have blue range finders for epic before, with metric measurements?

 

Wish they wouldn't use a pic of measuring sticks that are wonky like that though. Seems unprofessional and I want folk to be impressed with the game.

 

I guess it don't matter as the micro machines are what people are buying.

 

The Red Sticks were used for sword fighting with gaming mates till one snapped and some one got stung by it :laugh:, Tape measures are the new black...measuring system.

I never ever got a box set that had straight red measuring sticks, maybe this is a nostalgia nod ...:tongue:

 

++EDIT++

And from reading the New Article, I'm more and more Convinced that the starter box is probably about a quarter of what you will want to have a truly epic battle, I'm thinking the army box will last about 5 mins on the table ,(i may have to recycle units back into play before i can afford more boxes of tiny toys... :sweat: 

 

 

M.

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1 hour ago, Captain Idaho said:

If I remember rightly, they did have blue range finders for epic before, with metric measurements?

 

Wish they wouldn't use a pic of measuring sticks that are wonky like that though. Seems unprofessional and I want folk to be impressed with the game.

 

I guess it don't matter as the micro machines are what people are buying.

Yes, Battlefleet Gothic and Epic: 40,000 used blue whippy sticks with cms. I remember checking one of my red whippy sticks from Necromunda against a tape measure and it was about a quarter of an inch short. Incidentally that game frequently involved ranges of 24" and we just held two sticks together or found a tape measure in Dad's toolbox

 

TLDR: The red sticks are definitely a nostalgia thing and not a useful gaming aid.

1 hour ago, Interrogator Stobz said:

On the bright side there is very little guff that buying multiple starter boxes will leave spare.

Or maybe I only get one and save for individual releases.... :tongue:


T'au -like levels of optimism here. I'll be happy if there's enough launch boxes available on pre-order day that I can get one at all. :wink:

Ha yeah, the store i worked in had a big old bundle of red sticks, allegations we knew which ones were short and left them in arms reach of certain regulars are ofc false :D 

I dont expect they will see much use, just another swing for the nostalgia dollars again.

Also... worth mentioning they could just do a red stick in CM.

1 hour ago, Noserenda said:


I dont expect they will see much use, just another swing for the nostalgia dollars again.

Also... worth mentioning they could just do a red stick in CM.

 

Lets hope they Don't try and make legion specific resin ones :tongue:.....:laugh:

 

M. 

9 hours ago, Colman said:

I think a lot of us from the UK and US don't twig that GW tape measures are, in a lot of places, the only way you can get an imperial tape measure, they make money off those, so there's an incentive to stick with Imperial.

8 hours ago, Cactus said:

Yes, Battlefleet Gothic and Epic: 40,000 used blue whippy sticks with cms. I remember checking one of my red whippy sticks from Necromunda against a tape measure and it was about a quarter of an inch short. Incidentally that game frequently involved ranges of 24" and we just held two sticks together or found a tape measure in Dad's toolbox

 

TLDR: The red sticks are definitely a nostalgia thing and not a useful gaming aid.

 

I do remember doing the same and finding it strange their measuring stick was shorter than it should have been.

 

They were useful as a kid though.

Anyone got any plans for Legions and, uh, whatever the equivalent of Regiments for Solar Auxilia are? 

 

I'm on a bit of a Salamanders kick at the moment, and think that bright green is going to really pop. One of the ways I think I could have improved my previous Epic stuff was by using brighter, cleaner colours – the techniques I use for 28mm/32mm stuff don't necessarily translate well to Epic scale.

37 minutes ago, Sword Brother Adelard said:

I think a lot of us from the UK and US don't twig that GW tape measures are, in a lot of places, the only way you can get an imperial tape measure, they make money off those, so there's an incentive to stick with Imperial.

Unless you live in Australia…a fair few tape measures come in cm and inches, Australians did that to get back at GW for giving us Lucky country prices”  :tongue:

I'm going pure Ultramarines but all the stuff I can't afford in 30K. (So will be looking to offload my Solar Auxilia probably)

 

Destroyers from the Nemisis Chapter, massed Breachers and Vindicators like at Armatura...

 

Both Ultramarines themes I've always loved. The Breachers at Armatura were heroic and iconic, whilst the depth surrounding the Nemesis Chapter and their relationship with the rest of the Legion and Guilliman was especially fraught and interesting.

 

Plus I want micromachine tanks. Lots of them.

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1 hour ago, Sword Brother Adelard said:

I think a lot of us from the UK and US don't twig that GW tape measures are, in a lot of places, the only way you can get an imperial tape measure, they make money off those, so there's an incentive to stick with Imperial.

This is the single greatest thing I have ever seen posted on this forum, hands down.

 

Despite how it is a statement made with confidence and direction, it's also entirely wrong. 

45 minutes ago, apologist said:

Anyone got any plans for Legions and, uh, whatever the equivalent of Regiments for Solar Auxilia are? 

 

I'm on a bit of a Salamanders kick at the moment, and think that bright green is going to really pop. One of the ways I think I could have improved my previous Epic stuff was by using brighter, cleaner colours – the techniques I use for 28mm/32mm stuff don't necessarily translate well to Epic scale.

I've always wanted to have an Imperial Fists army but I've never found a technique for the yellow that works for me (I have unsteady hands so rely on washes and dry brushing with simple touch ups - edge highlighting is a no go. Am wary of contrast as I like my tanks in the same scheme and think contrast looks awful on large areas).

 

But hopefully Epic scale will finally provide the opportunity for me to create Dorn's beautiful yellow legion! Looking forward to trying that. I have a handful of AT knights but I might start a new house. Maybe something aligned with the Fists? (need to research that). I have quite a lot of Titan's so I'll just continue with that scheme.

6 minutes ago, Burni said:

I've always wanted to have an Imperial Fists army but I've never found a technique for the yellow that works for me (I have unsteady hands so rely on washes and dry brushing with simple touch ups - edge highlighting is a no go.

Have you tried white prime and Imperial Fist contrast?

29 minutes ago, Stitch5000 said:

This is the single greatest thing I have ever seen posted on this forum, hands down.

 

Despite how it is a statement made with confidence and direction, it's also entirely wrong. 

Can you easily buy inch tape measures in Spain? Or other metric countries? 

Care to explain why I'm wrong politely rather than just be rude about it? I'm genuinely curious.

6 minutes ago, Sword Brother Adelard said:

Can you easily buy inch tape measures in Spain? Or other metric countries? 

Care to explain why I'm wrong politely rather than just be rude about it? I'm genuinely curious.

 

I can only speak for Sweden, but finding tape measurers that has both metric and inches here is easy.

 

https://www.biltema.se/verktyg/matverktyg/mattband/stalmattband-2000033947

28 minutes ago, Sword Brother Adelard said:

Can you easily buy inch tape measures in Spain? Or other metric countries? 

Care to explain why I'm wrong politely rather than just be rude about it? I'm genuinely curious.

Buying measuring tapes that come with a measure for inches on one side and metric on the other are extremely common all over Europe as far as I know - can't speak for other regions. You'd be hard pressed to find a hardware store or bigger super market with a gardening/hardware section that doesn't carry them, or at least I never had any issues finding one considering how often I forgot mine at home while travelling.

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