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[Mandragola]

1 hour ago, apologist said:

Thinking about the sprue breakdown, it seems likely that the Marine infantry will be two copies of one sprue; as will the Solar Auxilia infantry.

 

Do you think the vehicles will be split into type (i.e. a sprue purely of Predators, another of Leman Russ etc.), or larger sprues with multiple tank types (e.g. the Predators and Sicariuses on the same sprue)?

 

The former seems more likely to me, but I guess it's possible that combination sprues might be used. 

I was thinking about this and considering the size of the sprues they use for AI. Based on that I *think* we're looking at 2-3 tanks per sprue, just as we get 2-3 planes per sprue. So for example it might be 3 predators on one sprue and 2 sicarans on another.

 

Some of this depends on how many options we get. It might be possible for them to have a 3 predator, 2 Sicaran sprue if they've been clever with the hulls and minimised options. But if the Sicaran can be made in any of its variants then that would certainly require a full sprue for two of them.

 

I'm not sure about the Russes. It's possible those could be 4/sprue. They clearly aren't 3 and you wouldn't need many options for them (main gun and maybe hull) so that would save space, meaning 2/sprue would be odd. 

 

The infantry do look like two identical sprues, each with probably 20 bolter dudes, a command section and 5 of each type of specialist (jump pack, terminator etc.). Contemptors might well be on there too. I expect we'll see them sold at least 2 sprues per box.

 

Edit: all of this is based on the theory that they'd be using half-size sprues the same as used in AI and the Warhounds. Full-size sprues with all that faction's tanks on are possible. That would give them a little bit more space to work with but I don't think this is likely.

Edited July 13, 2023 by Mandragola

[Marshal Rohr]

The pictures of the russes, predators, sicarans, and malcadors next to the various knights and titans seem like a single tank sprue is 4 LR and 2 Malcadors/3 Predators and 2 Sicarans. I’d believe it was as you described if the predators came in four. 

[Matrindur]

The vehicle sprues will for sure be the same size as the Aeronautica ones and looking at how many planes they fit on a sprue I don't think the Sicarans/Predators or Leman Russes/Malcadors will be on the same sprue. Of course they could have one Predator sprue and one Sicaran sprue per box but why would they do that when they could just have two of each sprue in their own boxes like they did Aeronautica?

So I think each tank will get their own box with double the tanks as included in the launch box. The only one I'm not sure about is the Leman Russ as that would be eight Tanks per box but they also have six Xiphons per box (two sprues of 3 per sprue) and the Leman Russ is smaller so why not

Edited July 13, 2023 by Matrindur

[Marshal Rohr]

2 hours ago, Captain Idaho said:

Basically split the Infantry down the middle or one big sprue?

New SG sprues are all single small box sprues doubled up for basic options (Gangs/Tacticals/Champions/Cerastus). Special stuff (Contemptors/leviathans/warlords) have base sprues and weapon sprues. So I’m thinking when we look at the release box we are seeing one box of ‘Tactical Detachments’, a single sprue doubled up. 

34 minutes ago, Matrindur said:

The vehicle sprues will for sure be the same size as the Aeronautica ones and looking at how many planes they fit on a sprue I don't think the Sicarans/Predators or Leman Russes/Malcadors will be on the same sprue. Of course they could have one Predator sprue and one Sicaran sprue per box but why would they do that when they could just have two of each sprue in their own boxes like they did Aeronautica?

So I think each tank will get their own box with double the tanks as included in the launch box. The only one I'm not sure about is the Leman Russ as that would be eight Tanks per box but they also have six Xiphons per box (two sprues of 3 per sprue) and the Leman Russ is smaller so why not

A Solar Auxilia Tank Tercio is a Command Tank and 2 squads of 1-3 Tanks so having six in the box kind fits that organization. 

[Matrindur]

13 hours ago, Marshal Rohr said:

A Solar Auxilia Tank Tercio is a Command Tank and 2 squads of 1-3 Tanks so having six in the box kind fits that organization. 

Leman Russes would be eight per box this way as there are four in the launch box. So unless those are two sprues of two which is unlikely you get either 4 or 8 in the retail box

 

But it could still make sense if GW wants you to see it as 2 groups of 1 Command Tank and 3 Tanks instead of 1 group of 1 Command Tank and 2 squads of 3 with 1 left over

Edited July 14, 2023 by Matrindur

[VanDutch]

Today’s Heresy Thursday post talks about needing a magnifying glass for next week’s article, so that will probably be our next update on Legions.

[Bung]

5 hours ago, VanDutch said:

Today’s Heresy Thursday post talks about needing a magnifying glass for next week’s article, so that will probably be our next update on Legions.

 

Epic sized decal Sheets?

[apologist]

7 hours ago, Matrindur said:

Lems Russes would be eight per box this way as there are four in the launch box. So unless those are two sprues of two which is unlikely you get either 4 or 8 in the retail box

 

But it could still make sense if GW wants you to see it as 2 groups of 1 Command Tank and 3 Tanks instead of 1 group of 1 Command Tank and 2 squads of 3 with 1 left over

Or perhaps a full box of eight, and two more on a supplemental small sprue that includes turret variants for command? That’d give ten; a full company.

[Interrogator Stobz]

It's GeeDub, you will need to buy 2 boxes to get a full company... with 6 spares.

 

Or buy 5 boxes for 4 Companies 

[MithrilForge]

2 hours ago, Interrogator Stobz said:

It's GeeDub, you will need to buy 2 boxes to get a full company... with 6 spares.

 

Or buy 5 boxes for 4 Companies 

This (although very funny) may not be too far from the truth, they will box the sprues to make the most money from the least amount of product.... after watching the "The Painting Phase" video yesterday about trumpets etc I'm a lil bit more jaded by GW   If it's anything like AI... you will need multiple boxes.

(I would love to be Proven wrong ,But I doubt it ) 

 

M.  

[Noserenda]

I dont mind lots of tanks on one sprue, im planning to recreate my 1st Alpha Legion armoured that ive sadly had to sell a chunk of in smaller more practical scale :D Mixing infantry and tanks will be a pain in the backside if its much more than the starter box! 

[Interrogator Stobz]

I know I'm retired, but xenos stuff got Noped by the Mods from this thread. 

 

Just sayin'  

Edited July 14, 2023 by Interrogator Stobz
Sp.

[MithrilForge]

55 minutes ago, Interrogator Stobz said:

I know I'm retired, but xenos stuff go Noped by the Mods from this thread. 

 

Just sayin'  

Old retired guy... Get off my 30k lawn you xenos 

 

On topic  - I was hoping for a epic reveal on Heresy Thursday...and was a bit disappointed by the Champion (not the way others were mind you) ...

I think I got on the damn NEW EPIC hype train and didn't even realise it 

M. 

[Warmaster1988]

Same here, had hope for another Unit, which is not part of the Launch Box...

[MithrilForge]

2 minutes ago, Warmaster1988 said:

Same here, had hope for another Unit, which is not part of the Launch Box...

Next week ...hopefully 

 

M. 

[Captain Idaho]

Wait, there are other games? I thought there was only epic?

 

Literally how my brain goes when GW reveal something else.

[Petitioner's City]

I've been wondering/worrying about the price of this box, based on friends' questions. Do you think we might see a "budget" £105 box, the £120 of the new 40k starter level, or more "classic" specialist games big boxes (the first AT box, the heresy big box)? 

 

Also I wonder how limited this will be (like main studio splashes), or if (like other SG boxes for their systems) it is intended to be continuously available? 

[Warmaster1988]

Would expect a fighting Price for that Launch Box, but salted ones for seperate Sets.

Edited July 14, 2023 by Warmaster1988

[Matcap86]

Usually SG's have a big splash box with not endless availability and a smaller starter later down the line. How many there are is really up in the air IMHO. With leviathan really messing up supply lines that's my big worry. iWhether they had this stashed away on time or if it will be real limited and dampen enthusiasms for the game system immediately. 

[Lord Marshal]

54 minutes ago, Petitioner's City said:

I've been wondering/worrying about the price of this box, based on friends' questions. Do you think we might see a "budget" £105 box, the £120 of the new 40k starter level, or more "classic" specialist games big boxes (the first AT box, the heresy big box)? 

 

Also I wonder how limited this will be (like main studio splashes), or if (like other SG boxes for their systems) it is intended to be continuously available? 

 

I'm not expecting any cheaper than £105 but I'm also doubtful they'll go to £120 judging by them having already said it's a relatively small army.

 

So my guess is £105 like the other 'Specialist Game Starters'. 

Edited July 14, 2023 by Lord Marshal

[Captain Idaho]

I'll happily buy the boxed set and sell off the Solar Auxilia and Warhounds and recoup some money back. 

[DuskRaider]

Yeah, I fully intend to dump the SA portion of the box. I could always use more Warhounds, though. 

[Marshal Rohr]

I’ll see you guys on eBay then, I’m gonna need several hundred Solar Aux 

[Warmaster1988]

There is a rumor, spreading on other Forums and Boards, saying the Launch Box will cost under 120 Britisch Pounds.

[BolterZorro]

1 hour ago, Warmaster1988 said:

There is a rumor, spreading on other Forums and Boards, saying the Launch Box will cost under 120 Britisch Pounds.

It is not a mega scoop: the IL starter box is the same size as the AT starter. It has a similar content, not to say (around) the same number of sprues (probably). It'd be surprising not to see the launch at the same price,  maybe with a small increase due to GW finding always his way to increase price with whatever excuse. I absolutely don't see the box above 120£, more likely 105 or 110...