Legions Imperialis Legions Imperialis

[Interrogator Stobz]

Yeah, those little super expensive resin dudes are tricky to work with.

[Matrindur]

3 minutes ago, BolterZorro said:

On a side note: I hope that we see a plastic kit with armingers like we just saw the dire wolf kit reveal. It'd be a great addition to both games AT & LI.

Wouldn't be surprised if we get a plastic armiger kit now for LI. Probably even the different Mechanicum knights that where only available in resin before whenever Mechanicum is added

[Valkyrion]

6 minutes ago, Interrogator Stobz said:

Yeah, those little super expensive resin dudes are tricky to work with.

 

On a side note, does anyone know why GW stopped doing their brush on super glue from years ago?

I don't like their little tubes so i use army painter, but the spout is far too big to glue tiny resin bits. Its difficult enough doing dreadnought power fists with it.

[Bung]

13 minutes ago, Valkyrion said:

 

On a side note, does anyone know why GW stopped doing their brush on super glue from years ago?

I don't like their little tubes so i use army painter, but the spout is far too big to glue tiny resin bits. Its difficult enough doing dreadnought power fists with it.

 

Just use toothpicks. AK even doex Brass Toothpicks you can Clean.

 

Or other superglue applicators.

[BolterZorro]

I've magnetized all my titans warhounds and bigger. But do you think it's worth it magnetizing the more little ones aka cerastus and more important questoris knights? Magnets are so tiny at this size...

[Matcap86]

I think the Cerastus all come with a single weapon loadout. The questoris are doable to magnetize (though I didn't bother tbh). 

[Interrogator Stobz]

Just counts as for Questoris Knights, tell your opponent what extras they have and life is good.

[apologist]

2 hours ago, Matrindur said:

Wouldn't be surprised if we get a plastic armiger kit now for LI. Probably even the different Mechanicum knights that where only available in resin before whenever Mechanicum is added

 

Agreed. The appearance of the Dire Wolf in plastic is a good sign (though not guarantee) that we'll see the rest of the Titanicus resin range ported over to plastic. 

[SkimaskMohawk]

I'm waiting for the warmaster to have a condensed profile and swappable weapons like it was clearly always meant to.

[Lord Marshal]

3 hours ago, BolterZorro said:

On a side note: I hope that we see a plastic kit with armingers like we just saw the dire wolf kit reveal. It'd be a great addition to both games AT & LI.

 

Armigers were probably one of the worst resin-to-price offerings FW has ever put out, to the point I wonder if it impacted on the resin Dire Wolf actually being surprisingly 'cheap' (for FW). I could easily see them coming to plastic now though, especially since they'll potentially have even more use in LI now there's infantry to tackle. Six to a box maybe?

[Matrindur]

24 minutes ago, Lord Marshal said:

 

Armigers were probably one of the worst resin-to-price offerings FW has ever put out, to the point I wonder if it impacted on the resin Dire Wolf actually being surprisingly 'cheap' (for FW). I could easily see them coming to plastic now though, especially since they'll potentially have even more use in LI now there's infantry to tackle. Six to a box maybe?

Six per box at a price point between the three Questoris and the four Cerastus sounds realistic for GW

[Guest]

Found quite a lot of specialist units for Legions so my Sons of Horus and Ultras will be looking great.

[apologist]

On 7/20/2023 at 2:02 PM, apologist said:

I think GW are going to want to use the first releases to emphasise the differences between the Legions Astartes and Solar Auxilia, rather than cover the same ground – and while I don't want to put too much faith in the list earlier, I'd note that the only non-flyer missing from the Solar Auxilia side is a bit exciting:

 

 

My guess is for a box that allows you to construct superheavy tanks, with similar sprue layout as the Aeronautica Bombers – that is, 2 in the box. 

 

Reasoning for that is the size of the models is roughly equivalent, and that the 'detachment size' value (6th stat) on the list is '1'. 

 

Hope you'll excuse the (dreadfullyl vulgar) habit of quoting myself, but the appearance of a Baneblade in the corner here lends some credibility to the stats of the anonymous list (from this post here).

 

 

It's from the latest preview on terrain: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/26/the-new-legions-imperialis-terrain-is-the-perfect-backdrop-for-an-epic-throwdown/

 

+++

 

If this is genuine, then, looks like there's plenty of meat to chew over in terms of rules ahead of an official preview.

 

Edited July 26, 2023 by apologist

[VanDutch]

More rhino loveliness in the latest preview video too.

[Nova-V]

Whilst currently LI hasn't done enough to draw me in (disappointingly) that little Baneblade has got me excited.  Hopefully it heralds the coming of a Shadowsword as well.  Finally I'll be able to field the super heavy force of my dreams, at least in tiny dio form.

[ccnick22]

Wonder if we will see a return of the AT18 tiles to go with these for variety.

 

[BolterZorro]

So, giving that the rhino is more and more shown in their promo pics, I can't imagine that it won't be available day one. Same probably for its Auxilia counterpart (chimera? dunno). (and transport are so important in Epic ;-) )

And I'm suspecting that the tomorrow reveal will be about (heavy) Solar Auxilia tanks , especially the baneblade. Or the fast units to have a change? (like cavalry....).

 

I need some LI specific units to destroys the titans WITHOUT titans (on each side). That'd be super fun.

 

EDIT: I don't see any fast option in the lists above (ni bikes, speeders etc...). Probably a later launche then....

Edited July 26, 2023 by BolterZorro

[Lord Marshal]

Just now, BolterZorro said:

So, giving that the rhino is more and more shown in their promo pics, I can't imagine that it won't be available day one. Same probably for its Auxilia counterpart (chimera? dunno).

And I'm suspecting that the tomorrow reveal will be about (heavy) Solar Auxilia tanks , especially the baneblade. Or the fast units to have a change? (like cavalry....).

 

I need some LI specific units to destroys the titans WITHOUT titans (on each side). That'd be super fun.

 

Solar Auxilia's main transports are the Aurox and Dracosan, though neither of them appear on the supposedly leaked list. IF it's true, the only transport they'll have around launch is the Arvus... which would be annoying, as it would probably mandate bringing some Space Marines along even in an SA-heavy force due to the board sizes.

[Irongert]

5 minutes ago, Lord Marshal said:

 

Solar Auxilia's main transports are the Aurox and Dracosan, though neither of them appear on the supposedly leaked list. IF it's true, the only transport they'll have around launch is the Arvus... which would be annoying, as it would probably mandate bringing some Space Marines along even in an SA-heavy force due to the board sizes.

 

Admittedly it's a bit of a long shot but maybe they will have a variety of possible builds with that baneblade kit including a stormlord. That would solve the initial transport issue.  

[Matcap86]

14 minutes ago, Lord Marshal said:

 

Solar Auxilia's main transports are the Aurox and Dracosan, though neither of them appear on the supposedly leaked list. IF it's true, the only transport they'll have around launch is the Arvus... which would be annoying, as it would probably mandate bringing some Space Marines along even in an SA-heavy force due to the board sizes.

 

I fully expect both aurox and dracosans to be in a similar "armoured support" set as the rhino's.

[apologist]

Between the previews we've seen, Epic gaming history, and that leaked list, I think these initial releases are intended to establish the themes of the relevant factions.

• Space Marines are being lined up as a force with lots of flexible and adaptable formations, but lacking 'big guns'.
• Solar Auxilia will have a more dedicated and interreliant character, but will lack pace.

By ensuring these forces (at least initially) have clear downsides/weakness in isolation, the concept of combined arms will become familiar.

 

For that reason, I think it unlikely we'll see transports for the Solar Auxilia in the initial release – though note the presence of Arvus Lighters in the stats above...

 

 

FUTUREMAN PREDICTS

• Launch box – note this is being referred to as 'Core Box', so I think this will hang around, and won't be superceded as, say, the Grand Master box was for Titanicus – £105

 

Early subsequent releases (first three months)

• Astartes Legionary infantry – £25; two sprues of the infantry/Terminators/Contemptors we've seen.
• Solar Auxilia infantry – £25; two sprues of the infantry/Sentinels/Ogryns we've seen.
• Legion Support – £25: two sprues of Leviathan/Deredeo etc.
• Predators – £30 for six
• Leman Russ – £30 for six 
• Rhinos – £25 for six. (I'm least confident about this number; but think six is most likely.)
• Dire Wolf scout Titans – £45 for two

 

Further out:

• Sicaran squadron – £30 for four
• Malcador squadron – £30 for four
• Kratos squadron – £30 for two
• Superheavy tanks squadron – £30 for two
• Plastic Mechanicus Knights (Styrix/Magaera) 
• Plastic Knights (Armigers/Moirax)

 

By Christmas

• New Space Marine infantry box
• First FW resin releases themed around a campaign book
• Said campaign book

 

Sprinkled in amongst other releases:

• Re-release/re-pack of Aeronautica flyers.
• Re-release/re-pack of Imperial Knights

Edited July 26, 2023 by apologist

[BolterZorro]

Let's see what we already know for sure for both sides:

astartes

- all the units in the starter: infantry (complete, with HQ/troops/support/terminators/etc...), contemptors, Sicaran, Predator.

- heavy support box : leviathan, deredeo, rapier, tarentula.

- seen but not official: rhino

Solar Auxilia

- all the units in the starter: infantry (HQ/troops/support/ogryn/etc...) ,Aethon Heavy Sentinel, leman russ, malcador

- additional box: tomorrow....

- seen but not official : baneblade chassis.

 

So, with tomorrow reveal, we pretty much cover the so called leaked list.

And tbh, it is a bit short. But I'm confident that we'll see at least one more thing per side from GW (the rhino box may be with some options, same for baneblade).

This is not a super rich launch but it is well helped by the existing range of minis from AI & AT.
Then later, lets say 1 to 3 month,  with simili codex/campaign books, we'll get some more options (tanks, fast, etc...)

[Matcap86]

9 minutes ago, BolterZorro said:

Let's see what we already know for sure for both sides:

astartes

- all the units in the starter: infantry (complete, with HQ/troops/support/terminators/etc...), contemptors, Sicaran, Predator.

- heavy support box : leviathan, deredeo, rapier, tarentula.

- seen but not official: rhino

Solar Auxilia

- all the units in the starter: infantry (HQ/troops/support/ogryn/etc...) ,Aethon Heavy Sentinel, leman russ, malcador

- additional box: tomorrow....

- seen but not official : baneblade chassis.

 

So, with tomorrow reveal, we pretty much cover the so called leaked list.

And tbh, it is a bit short. But I'm confident that we'll see at least one more thing per side from GW (the rhino box may be with some options, same for baneblade).

This is not a super rich launch but it is well helped by the existing range of minis from AI & AT.
Then later, lets say 1 to 3 month,  with simili codex/campaign books, we'll get some more options (tanks, fast, etc...)

 

It;s a pretty extensive launch if you look at the amount of kits they're going to be putting out.

Next to the launch box:

SM: Infantry set, Armoured set, Heavy Support box.

SA: Infantry set, Armoured set, Probably heavy supportbox

 

(Re)launch of 5 terrain kits

And then the reboxing of AI stuff and the bases to rebase that and titanicus if wanted. 

 

Though I'm honestly expecting at least 1 more box for both sides containing transports/super heavies.  

 

Edit: forgot the direwolf which was recast in plastic, and whatever else stuff will make the move to plastic from AT. 

Edited July 26, 2023 by matcap86

[Mogger351]

Just now, matcap86 said:

 

It;s a pretty extensive launch if you look at the amount of kits they're going to be putting out.

Next to the launch box:

SM: Infantry set, Armoured set, Heavy Support box.

SA: Infantry set, Armoured set, Probably heavy supportbox

 

(Re)launch of 5 terrain kits

And then the reboxing of AI stuff and the bases to rebase that and titanicus if wanted. 

 

Though I'm honestly expecting at least 1 more box for both sides containing transports/super heavies.  

Give there's what appears to be a baneblade that seems a fair expectation

[BolterZorro]

4 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

Give there's what appears to be a baneblade that seems a fair expectation

I bet that it is for tomorrow reveal to emphasis the distinction of SM and SA. SA won't have the heavy dreads but will have the super heavy tanks, probably a kit with several builds.

Edited July 26, 2023 by BolterZorro