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[vadersson]

On 8/17/2023 at 1:19 PM, BolterZorro said:

Only 1 LI article every other week... My have is fading away...

I am pretty sure they are promising two next week.  Monday is a Titan and aircraft rules article.  Then Thursday is a reveal on artillery.  So getting back to two articles is both a surprise and hopefully a good sign.  
 

i wish there was a definitive statement on the cause of the delay and what is being done about it.  It could still just all have to do with the warehouse in theory but the rumors make is sound like something else.  Sigh.

[MithrilForge]

I find GW rather childish when it comes to giving reasons for delays /low stock amounts/sold out products … they tend to simply erase all knowledge, never mention it and move on while the rest of us sit around looking dumbfounded… 

 

they bury their head in the sand … 

[Burni]

Happy ‘day we should have been picking up our LI boxes if it hadn’t been delayed for unknown reasons’ everybody 

[Dark Shepherd]

12 hours ago, vadersson said:

I am pretty sure they are promising two next week.  Monday is a Titan and aircraft rules article.  Then Thursday is a reveal on artillery.  So getting back to two articles is both a surprise and hopefully a good sign.  
 

i wish there was a definitive statement on the cause of the delay and what is being done about it.  It could still just all have to do with the warehouse in theory but the rumors make is sound like something else.  Sigh.

I think it comes down to GW policy of not wanting us to do too much planning/sensible budgeting so we keep buying stuff :)

[Guest]

All they have done is push me further into 3D printing.

[Redcomet]

47 minutes ago, Brother Captain Arkley said:

All they have done is push me further into 3D printing.

Having a delay on a game? 

[Guest]

Just now, Redcomet said:

Having a delay on a game? 

Partly.

[Bouargh]

On 8/18/2023 at 5:28 AM, Interrogator Stobz said:

But they'll be available by next summer.

 

South or north hemisphere?

 

I am a little bit puzzled and I wonder what could be a set of reasons behind the delay... And if the same could extend/apply to other product ranges. I do not buy any supply chain (shipment) issues argument, as the situation is restaured and as nowadays it is much more an issue of finding some loads to be transported rather than lack of transport capacity. Subcontractor failure? IP? Norm compliance?

[Noserenda]

I do wish the Rulebook problems hadnt had to knock back everything else, i mean honestly, the rules are barely relevant to my mini collecting these days.

[Valkyrion]

I kind of agree. The rules don't necessarily matter, but I want to know if I like building, painting and playing with tiny models enough to spend my 30k (the game, not money!) budget on them.

[SkimaskMohawk]

I think the big issue is that their price point kinda necessitates rules that accompany the models. For many people it might be way too expensive to buy a box of 8mm dreads and artillery just for the models; building and painting being a much smaller value proposition.

 

Can't have people with buyers remorse.

[Interrogator Stobz]

11 hours ago, Bouargh said:

 

South or north hemisphere?

 

 I was being a tad ironic with that one, I left it open on purpose.

Could be either, anywhere from December this year to June next year. 

Hoping earlier ofc as I have a bit of cash to burn, but it's only  a game so my life will continue happily on regardless.

Who doesn't have a pile of shame to work through in the meantime?

 

But I do also wonder about the

'Why'.

Decent, open and honest dialogue with potential customers is far better than "oops please wait". 

 

Edited August 19, 2023 by Interrogator Stobz
Sp.

[Lord Marshal]

The more I think about it, if the 40k Core Rules and entire AoS Battletomes can be posted anon online months ahead of release, why has not a single person produced a photograph of this allegedly damning quote and/or the mess of errors that people are alleging (which GW uncharacteristically now care about)?

 

Everybody seems to know a friend who knows somebody who very definitely knows it's real, but so far there's been no evidence of such.

 

 

[Matrindur]

33 minutes ago, Lord Marshal said:

The more I think about it, if the 40k Core Rules and entire AoS Battletomes can be posted anon online months ahead of release, why has not a single person produced a photograph of this allegedly damning quote and/or the mess of errors that people are alleging (which GW uncharacteristically now care about)?

 

Everybody seems to know a friend who knows somebody who very definitely knows it's real, but so far there's been no evidence of such.

 

 

It is pretty surprising that the book hasn't leaked at all after the initial leaks. On a whole I only know of one real leaker for the game. Of course it has been rumoured to be coming for a while now but the three actual leaks we got (stat lines first, some faction rules shortly after and detachments a while after that) all come from a single person on 4chan as far as I know. So its surprising to me that even now when we know influencers already have the game in their hands, not a single one leaked the full book.

Edited August 20, 2023 by Matrindur

[OttoVonAwesome]

20 hours ago, Redcomet said:

Having a delay on a game? 

It goes way deeper than that but for an example I can print basically anything on demand for cheaper sometimes better versions with more variety. GW refuses to acknowledge that 3-d printing exists yet it kept things like epic alive and designers will out pace them by miles and thier only defense is to copy strike random :cuss: that gets posted to facebook rather than try and compete with let's face it the future of mini's. Recent shortages in production make it very easy to justify along with the ever increasing prices and rampant inflation that is crushing peoples ability to actually purchase GW mini's look at the Vanguard re-release 170 dollars? And Kill teams I dont need the extra sprue but many of them aren't available without it. 60 dollars for ten cadians I used to pay 40 for 20. But ok let's wait for years for things to be released in plastic according to an outdated release schedule based on a system that can't produce product due to a lack of infrastructure that leads the rules writers to make dumb decisions cutting units into legends and the main company has no intention of actually fixing by expanding yet they are prefectly willing to keep chucking new product and growing faster than they can maintain themselves so they'd rather gaslight thier consumers into thinking a new logistics system will fix everything. Geuss what it won't. 

[Guest]

3 hours ago, OttoVonAwesome said:

It goes way deeper than that but for an example I can print basically anything on demand for cheaper sometimes better versions with more variety. GW refuses to acknowledge that 3-d printing exists yet it kept things like epic alive and designers will out pace them by miles and thier only defense is to copy strike random that gets posted to facebook rather than try and compete with let's face it the future of mini's. Recent shortages in production make it very easy to justify along with the ever increasing prices and rampant inflation that is crushing peoples ability to actually purchase GW mini's look at the Vanguard re-release 170 dollars? And Kill teams I dont need the extra sprue but many of them aren't available without it. 60 dollars for ten cadians I used to pay 40 for 20. But ok let's wait for years for things to be released in plastic according to an outdated release schedule based on a system that can't produce product due to a lack of infrastructure that leads the rules writers to make dumb decisions cutting units into legends and the main company has no intention of actually fixing by expanding yet they are prefectly willing to keep chucking new product and growing faster than they can maintain themselves so they'd rather gaslight thier consumers into thinking a new logistics system will fix everything. Geuss what it won't. 

Pretty much my thoughts.

[Lord Marshal]

I feel like GW know people 3D Print, but the number of people who do are still an extremely vocal minority. 

 

Convenience still trumps anything else for the majority of people. Plus most of the people I've known who 3D print still tend to buy a lot official models anyway.

 

It's kind of like airbrushes. Yeah, everybody knows they're a great tool for speeding up, if not improving your paint jobs, but most people are still exclusively using rattle cans and brushes. 

 

Edited August 20, 2023 by Lord Marshal

[Noserenda]

Unlike airbrushes though, 3d printing is something thats super simple to expand out to cover all your friends. I needed some stuff printed for an upcoming event and i had half a dozen people i could ask to do it even though a resin printer isnt really an option in my flat. 

As for the leaks, its pretty rare for influencers to leak stuff, and the ones that do are made an example of. Especially specialist games who have a much smaller group of influencers they send to compared to the main studios. 

Personally the nazi thing seems more likely than a QC issue, given the extremely low bar SG generally has.

[Iron Father Ferrum]

Friendly notice before we roll too far down this road: this is not a thread about 3D printing and its effects on GW's business model.

[Scribe]

On 8/19/2023 at 1:44 AM, Dark Shepherd said:

I think it comes down to GW policy of not wanting us to do too much planning/sensible budgeting so we keep buying stuff :)

 

Amusing when they held back all the stuff that I wanted and now my hobby money is gone.

 

Genius. 

[DuskRaider]

My LGS has an AI Thunderhawk and some Storm Eagles and I’m really tempted to grab them but I’m not sure what I can do about bases or even what size they’ll be so it’s holding me back. Same with some of the Titanicus stuff I’ve seen… that and it’s stuff I don’t really need, especially after seeing Knights and Titans can only make up 30% of a list and I have that at least ten times over. 

[jaxom]

@DuskRaider I'm not super familiar with AT base sizes, but they look like the same radius. Could probably just cut a circle out of 1 or 2 mm thick polystyrene?

 

 

 

The articles claim being able to use AT models and I would assume the radii are the same while the bit of extra height in AT bases won't matter.

 

 

Here's the Thunderhawk flyer base they showed off in https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/24/legions-imperialis-designer-interview-just-how-did-they-make-these-tanks-so-small/:

[DuskRaider]

1 hour ago, jaxom said:

@DuskRaider I'm not super familiar with AT base sizes, but they look like the same radius. Could probably just cut a circle out of 1 or 2 mm thick polystyrene?

 

 

 

The articles claim being able to use AT models and I would assume the radii are the same while the bit of extra height in AT bases won't matter.

 

 

Here's the Thunderhawk flyer base they showed off in https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/07/24/legions-imperialis-designer-interview-just-how-did-they-make-these-tanks-so-small/:

Yeah, it’s more the AI bases than anything. I have plenty of the AT ones and the new ones are basically the same thing only slimmer. 

[MithrilForge]

4 hours ago, DuskRaider said:

Yeah, it’s more the AI bases than anything. I have plenty of the AT ones and the new ones are basically the same thing only slimmer. 

 

Regarding The ThunderHawk base - The Clear part and the Post underneath are the same as the AI base, the only difference is that Oblong plug in the LI base, you could buy the T-Hawk and make it & paint it and then wait for a new base /or drill out a hole in the existing base you have and just plug the stem of the AI one into it, same with the smaller planes they just plug into a hole in the Base. 

 

Cheers, M.   

[Interrogator Stobz]

Hey Brother M, what is the diameter of the IA THawk base if someone were to just use a normal round with the AI stem?