Noserenda Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Urgggh yes, the Titanicus stuff going largely OOP is also super frustrating, id planned to finally buy a Warmaster (Promised no more titans until everything else was painted for AT) but they went OOP and then they previewed you cant really use the biggest titans in regular games and ill have to buy another base... Ech... Spazmolytic 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5993992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 The AT delay is also causing the second hand market to go mad. Troll Trader put up a box of two hounds the other day for £80! vadersson 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5993998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I was kinda hoping to start AT while waiting on LI, but, well... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogger351 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 3 hours ago, matcap86 said: Congratulations, I also have a job. Not sure how that's relevant. You're not having to justify anything. I was just curious how you went from: "This will be amazing!" to "I'm not even going to bother with this". In the span of two months, with no actual change to the product (that we know of). Not intended as an attack or slight or anything like that. Appreciate it's not me you asked but I'm in that category now as well. I was really excited at reveal, I was clearing my backlog down and looking forwards to something different. Game didn't drop, started a 40k crusade, invested into that instead, GW then keep stalling indefinitely and confirmed a paid-for drip of model rules for a niche game I won't play as often. They missed their hype window for me and it'll be the same for others no doubt. Matcap86, MARK0SIAN, Doctor Perils and 2 others 2 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 36 minutes ago, Urauloth said: I was kinda hoping to start AT while waiting on LI, but, well... The starter was back for a bit at least, id still recommend it as the best game GW makes when they get around to selling it again... Spazmolytic 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994012 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ahzek451 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Noserenda said: Urgggh yes, the Titanicus stuff going largely OOP is also super frustrating, id planned to finally buy a Warmaster (Promised no more titans until everything else was painted for AT) but they went OOP and then they previewed you cant really use the biggest titans in regular games and ill have to buy another base... Ech... Wait, is GW done making AT models or are are they just repackaging them? I had to look at the website real quick and all I see is the warhound and reaver box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 They have confirmed a few times Titans are just getting repackaged and should be back when epic finally releases "soon" Spazmolytic 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994015 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Ahzek451 said: Wait, is GW done making AT models or are are they just repackaging them? I had to look at the website real quick and all I see is the warhound and reaver box. They're being reboxed with LI bases. Presumably the suits don't want them to be sold with 'Legions Imperialis' branding, since they fear that if Lil Timmy sees them when the actual Legions Imperialis game isn't out yet, his brain might melt. Edited October 10, 2023 by Lord Marshal skylerboodie, Ahzek451, Spazmolytic and 3 others 3 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 My guess is that the starter will likely continue to be made as is, because it's a pure and self-contained AT product. So they can keep producing it with its existing packaging and rules content. Knowing GW, the reason they won't release existing AT models in the new packaging is because there's LI specific stuff in the boxes (like data cards) they want to sit on until release. In the mean time, getting your Mits on titans is becoming a bit warhound eat warhound. My hope is that when we do see the newly packaged titans we may see more plastic weapons for the other chassis, or maybe, in the way they consolidated the Armigers into one box with both weapon sprues, they might do the same with the reavers and Warlords? A fool can dream I suppose. Burni, vadersson, Spazmolytic and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterZorro Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 I'm worrying a bit about the schedule now: LI will be out in a time where people are bying stuff for chrismass, meaning that it will be evenworse than the usual FOMO rush, especially when we know the production limitations and the mass of things already revealed aroud LI. Add to this that GW has to manage all the christmass boxes (battle forces for example but also the battle forces for AT/LI with knights and titans which are limited editions). It will be a mess of a FOMO battle ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matcap86 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 19 minutes ago, BolterZorro said: I'm worrying a bit about the schedule now: LI will be out in a time where people are bying stuff for chrismass, meaning that it will be evenworse than the usual FOMO rush, especially when we know the production limitations and the mass of things already revealed aroud LI. Add to this that GW has to manage all the christmass boxes (battle forces for example but also the battle forces for AT/LI with knights and titans which are limited editions). It will be a mess of a FOMO battle ! I expect a lot of the stuff to release in early next year. If the original plan was launch box in August, Wave 1 in Oct/Nov. Wave 2 in Jan/Feb. I'll expect everything to have moved. So launch box somewhere in the next 4 weeks. Then holiday break, then wave 1 somewhere in Jan/Feb, etc. On the other hand, can't rule out they :cuss: it and do one gigantic dump of all the LI stuff somewhere in the next month. Which would be not great. MegaVolt87, Marshal Mittens and Interrogator Stobz 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994100 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific81 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) I much prefer the heads-up you receive now, even if it is sometimes delayed, as it lets you save money and plan a bit. Remember the alternative (about a decade ago?) You would not find out about a release until you walked into a store, and GW used to sue gaming websites that somehow got leaked images or concepts. It was awful. As for the new releases being split into expansions, again this is GWs business model. You have to fully expect this game, as with Necromunda, to necessitate the purchase of a small hand cart (or book-carrying slave) to pull along with you to a gaming night to carry all of those rule books. As someone who has subsisted with free compilation PDF rulebooks* for the last decade it feels like a big step back, but the reality is that they are a company making money and 'DLC' is they way of it now, as much as it grates. *NetEpic, Net Armageddon etc are all still available if it gets too much! Edited October 12, 2023 by Pacific81 LameBeard, Interrogator Stobz, Doctor Perils and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994292 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterZorro Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Spartans...at last https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/12/heresy-thursday-deliver-and-destroy-with-a-new-legions-imperialis-tank/ But I am a bit disapointed not seeing any SA counterpart for ages.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrindur Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share Posted October 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, BolterZorro said: Spartans...at last https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/10/12/heresy-thursday-deliver-and-destroy-with-a-new-legions-imperialis-tank/ But I am a bit disapointed not seeing any SA counterpart for ages.... Its expected that SM get more as they also have way more units to be released but based on the initial stat leaks the units that would have released after launch and will get their rules in the teased expansion book would be Medusas/Basilisks, Drop Pods, Spartans and everything in the SM fast attack box. As that is a 6:2 split of units for SM I would expect the next reveal to be for SA, maybe Dracosan and Aurox? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific81 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 They look nice! Land Raiders in an expansion? I know I just said above GW are a business and have to make money, but holy hell that is some paying extra for shiny horse armour DLC right there..! LameBeard and Interrogator Stobz 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Cohort Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 that was an incredibly short article, I feel like they could have given us some tidbit of the rules for Spartans to pad it out a bit. MithrilForge and Captain Idaho 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994413 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadersson Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 The previews lately have been pretty skimpy. I really want some meat. Stats! Detachment sizes! Point values! Throw us a freaking bone here. Sigh. Pacific81 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterZorro Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 They can't do this! The speeders/bike and spartans are for sure in an expansion book (probably the first one). So, giving everything before the book is out is shooting his own feet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 From the upcoming White Dwarf. Gives us a solid idea of the points values. tinpact, vadersson, Noserenda and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithrilForge Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 I have 3 Xiphons & 2x Storm Eagles... it's a start, I got a bit more to go to get that kind of force... thanks for the pics @Joe I'll definitely be getting that White Dwarf by the looks of it . M. Noserenda 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994503 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Interesting how broad the detachments are, the Blood angels fielding formations 3 times the size of the Traitor force! Big FoW Soviet vibes :P (For context, very roughly, most armies in Flames of War field companies broken into platoons but the Soviets field Battalions broken into companies) interesting to see how that plays, usually the lack of activations would be crippling but you do get to action a lot at once! The Blood angels really do look a lot better, even in potato cam pics on a blue background. Pacific81 and MithrilForge 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MithrilForge Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, Noserenda said: The Blood angels really do look a lot better, even in potato cam pics on a blue background. Yes I still don't know why they went with the Bland death guard as the poster boys of LI Those Blood angels look waay better... I can't wait to see some Ultramarines or white scars! M. Noserenda 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994507 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Love the fact the reaver is named "Gate Keeper". Made me chuckle. I'll be interested to read the report as at first glance it looks very much in favour of the Blood Angels - not looking for spoilers! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994508 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrindur Posted October 13, 2023 Author Share Posted October 13, 2023 Thats a lot of Drop Pods for only being 4 per box Sword Brother Adelard, MithrilForge and Xanthous 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994521 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vadersson Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 I will totally reverse engineer those point values. Also new formations to analysis. Thanks for the info! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379382-legions-imperialis/page/69/#findComment-5994523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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