Apokalypsi Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 They fixed the WG Termies losing a melee weapon when taking a heavy weapon. Also, Wolf Scouts are 2 wounds again. A few other random, small updates, but those are the biggest for us. Starlight_Wolf, Karhedron and Valerian 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379688-index-cards-update/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starlight_Wolf Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 Shame they didn't amend the Wulfen Hammer, as it seems a little bit of an odd outlier, but maybe that could come in September? Thank Russ our veteran scouts actually have the same wounds as the newer ones from other chapters, was partly worried they'd say 'because battle injuries' or some such as aa reasoning for that. Hope to get some use from them at some point :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379688-index-cards-update/#findComment-5976069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apokalypsi Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share Posted July 27, 2023 Agreed. They really need to change the Wulfen hammer profile, even if its just to a MCPW statline. Really should be like the deathwatch hammer though. Starlight_Wolf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379688-index-cards-update/#findComment-5976104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted July 27, 2023 Share Posted July 27, 2023 I think that Wulfen got the short end of the stickhammer for the same reason as VanVets. There is such as discrepancy between the power levels of the different weapon options that they could not accommodate them under a single price, particularly when you factor in the 4++ of the Storm Shield as well. One of the few units that has retained its weapon flexibility is the Blood Angel Death Company who can still swap out a bolt pistol and chainsword for anything up to a Thunder Hammer. The crucial difference seems to be that they don't have access to Storm Shields. So either units get a range of melee weapons or they get consolidate heirloom weapons and a Storm Shield option. Valerian, Blade of Sigismund and Starlight_Wolf 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379688-index-cards-update/#findComment-5976110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apokalypsi Posted July 27, 2023 Author Share Posted July 27, 2023 I can see that being the case. Claws and THs are at the complete opposite ends of the spectrum. I'd like to see the claws get a LC profile and the hammer/shield get no less than a MC weapon profile. Not sure if that would work with the points though if your theory is correct. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379688-index-cards-update/#findComment-5976152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted July 28, 2023 Share Posted July 28, 2023 There's a bigger more comprehensive update to factions later this year. This patch was to fix the glaring issues on index cards/minor patch to the game. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379688-index-cards-update/#findComment-5976708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted July 29, 2023 Share Posted July 29, 2023 I’m not sure they’re worried about the discrepancy in power levels between weapon options. If you look at shooting options there’s a lot of discrepancy. For example a Long Fangs squad- a heavy bolter isn’t balanced well against the output of a lascannon for the same points. Wulfen may have gotten hit for the discrepancy but I think there are other reasons. I think it’s more likely GW changed them to nerf close combat. It’s their directive this edition. That and they lacked creativity on how to manage Wulfen. Death company keeping thunder hammers seem to be an exception to the rule. If they were worried about discrepancies between weapons options they need (and should) bring back points for the different options. Maybe that will be something we see when we get codexes. Overall I’m happy they fixed the clear mistakes in the index. Hopefully they revisit our index before too long. But I doubt it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/379688-index-cards-update/#findComment-5976743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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