Indy Techwisp Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Just saw this when checking the WarCom page, haven't seen anyone else mention it so here we are: Grotsmasha, Petitioner's City, Interrogator Stobz and 2 others 1 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Still no Engineers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 (edited) Land Raider Achilles has been fixed to have volkite or Multi meltas. Mastodon can now take different sponsons. sadly not Preds, Sicarians, Javelin, Typhon or Cerebrus. Edited August 27, 2023 by JeffJedi MegaVolt87 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted August 27, 2023 Share Posted August 27, 2023 Who knew legends could be updated? Sword Brother Adelard, Maschinenpriester, Harleqvin and 9 others 2 6 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 57 minutes ago, Petitioner's City said: Who knew legends could be updated? Yeah, even if it's in the slow lane, hopefully it encourages its usage. Can't say legends isn't updated anymore.Seriously, where are the engineers? Halandaar, Interrogator Stobz and Petitioner's City 2 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneOfTas Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Oh nice, they fixed the rule for the Spartan so it has the Assault Ramp rule. painting.for.my.sanity, Karhedron, Sea Creature and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpt_Reaper Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I did notice the announcement, and downloaded the updated indexes but...for the life of me I couldn't work out what was changed. Thanks for providing the changelog GW didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt John Keel Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 4 hours ago, JeffJedi said: Land Raider Achilles has been fixed to have volkite or Multi meltas. Mastodon can now take different sponsons. sadly not Preds, Sicarians, Javelin, Typhon or Cerebrus. For some reason the Achilles still has an Assault Ramp. Land Raider Spartan traded it's former special rule (Fire Support something) for an Assault Ramp, and the Heavy Plasma Cannon on the Relic Contemptor got stats. Interrogator Stobz and ThaneOfTas 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 So Legends is more up to date than any Index. Nice. Crimson Longinus, DuskRaider, Harleqvin and 8 others 1 9 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 This is a real positive to be honest but if they are going to update them I'm not sure why they are restricted play other than they don't want to include them in their respective codex. I hope they continue this moving forwards but suspect this is just a quick errata. Kallas, crimsondave, Petitioner's City and 3 others 1 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daimyo-Phaeron Lenoch Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) Basic legends Astartes pdf has been updated to change the order of the standard and overcharge shots of the Terminus Lascannons on the Terminus Ultra, and also added a transport capacity of eight models with the usual restrictions. Oh, and they changed the background color slightly. God-Emperor knows why. Other than that I didn't see any major changes. Necrons don't appear to have had any changes, going off the upload date. Edited August 28, 2023 by Daimyo-Phaeron Lenoch Abhor the typo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted August 28, 2023 Author Share Posted August 28, 2023 Still can't see what's changed with the T'au Legends datasheets despite looking over it multiple times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo1701 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 After asking the rules team for over 2 editions now they have finally updated the wounds for veteran bikers to be in line with normal bikes. My old guard are very happy. roryokane and Harleqvin 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovemberIX Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 This is a surprising but welcome occurrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kythnos Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Anything new in this for Chaos? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 11 hours ago, Doghouse said: This is a real positive to be honest but if they are going to update them I'm not sure why they are restricted play other than they don't want to include them in their respective codex. I hope they continue this moving forwards but suspect this is just a quick errata. I've suspected it's a balancing thing for tournaments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 16 minutes ago, Bloody Legionnaire said: I've suspected it's a balancing thing for tournaments. But tournaments don't generally allow legends MegaVolt87 and Sea Creature 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Well the changes I've noticed are core to the units rather than power level. Things like the correct weapon options and not things like adding orbital bombardment to a command tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsondave Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 I'm just glad they fixed the obvious screw ups like the Spartan not having the assault ramp rule. It's a good sign even if not monumental. Sea Creature, ThaneOfTas and Petitioner's City 1 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 7 minutes ago, crimsondave said: I'm just glad they fixed the obvious screw ups like the Spartan not having the assault ramp rule. It's a good sign even if not monumental. You mean you don't want your stormtroopers having 2 wounds each? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urauloth Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Surprised to see this, but nice. Some basic errata work like the Spartan getting a ramp could easily have just... never happened. Glad to see they revisited Legends already and made some fixes. Hope it's a sign of things to come. crimsondave, Interrogator Stobz and ThaneOfTas 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo1701 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 4 hours ago, Urauloth said: Surprised to see this, but nice. Some basic errata work like the Spartan getting a ramp could easily have just... never happened. Glad to see they revisited Legends already and made some fixes. Hope it's a sign of things to come. That’s the thing with legends. I’m fine with them not updating the balance as these unit will mainly be confined to friendly games. So long as they get the data sheets correct in the first place before consigning them to the legends vault. Noserenda, skylerboodie and roryokane 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody Legionnaire Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Emperor Ming said: But tournaments don't generally allow legends *Sigh* I've suspected the reasons these units aren't included in tournaments is because of balance. What's the confusion here...? Last edition there were all kinds of 30k/HH/Imperial Armor units dominating in tournaments. That is what I mean by balancing issue. Edited August 29, 2023 by Bloody Legionnaire Oxydo, MegaVolt87 and Cpt_Reaper 2 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 ...And that tournaments are their playtesting data. Too many units in one faction = too many variables.that will kill the data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanicus Tech-Support Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 So their options are 30k/HH go to legends so they dont deal with them at tournys ooor they purge stuff from the SM faction bloat. Both options will come with wailing and gnashing of teeth Interrogator Stobz 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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