Marshal Rohr Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 If you add a little blob of GS to the neck join on the new Mark 6 the head looks infinitely better and you don’t have the odd contact issues with the gorget. The new Mark 3 will be the same way. It’s not that the head is too small, it’s that it’s too low. I don’t know the exact amount of height it needs, I kinda just eyeball it, but it changes the whole models profile without a giraffe neck if you do it right. Toxichobbit, Matcap86, madlibrarian and 2 others 2 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5996055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matcap86 Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, Marshal Rohr said: If you add a little blob of GS to the neck join on the new Mark 6 the head looks infinitely better and you don’t have the odd contact issues with the gorget. The new Mark 3 will be the same way. It’s not that the head is too small, it’s that it’s too low. I don’t know the exact amount of height it needs, I kinda just eyeball it, but it changes the whole models profile without a giraffe neck if you do it right. Yup, a lot of GWs model have this issue. Also did this with my custodes and old school MK3 and MK4 Marshal Rohr 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5996061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LameBeard Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 @Marshal Rohr @matcap86 any pictures to show us? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5996089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 stretch_135, derLumpi, 01RTB01 and 7 others 7 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5996137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antarius Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 18 hours ago, Marshal Rohr said: If you add a little blob of GS to the neck join on the new Mark 6 the head looks infinitely better and you don’t have the odd contact issues with the gorget. The new Mark 3 will be the same way. It’s not that the head is too small, it’s that it’s too low. I don’t know the exact amount of height it needs, I kinda just eyeball it, but it changes the whole models profile without a giraffe neck if you do it right. That's a great tip! I'll try it out right away Marshal Rohr 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5996178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoVonAwesome Posted October 19, 2023 Share Posted October 19, 2023 Never had this problem with the Mk 6. One thing I like about them is the necks finally match unhelmeted marines instead of having an extra ring on there and missing detail. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5996179 Share on other sites More sharing options...
de Selby Posted October 21, 2023 Share Posted October 21, 2023 (edited) My big box arrived, here's a quick size comparison for the new deredeo (minus weapons, it's late). Edit: some more thoughts about the build, which is time consuming and similar to the plastic leviathan. The guns all have magnet holes but the heavy bolters are effectively push fit, because the tolerances are so fine. The ammo belts are crazy, 12 pieces per belt. Happily they fit together well as above, but I can see why GW switched to individual links for the cerastus. The feet can be built with side toes/stabilisers out, for standing, or retracted for walking. Adorable. edit 2: speed painted to match Edited October 30, 2023 by de Selby Marshal Rohr, Rusted Boltgun, Xenith and 14 others 11 1 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5996823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
caladancid Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I saw a rumor that the 'old' resin Legion specific mkIII shoulder pads don't work on the new models. Has anyone else seen that or have an example? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5997860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, caladancid said: I saw a rumor that the 'old' resin Legion specific mkIII shoulder pads don't work on the new models. Has anyone else seen that or have an example? Considering they have images of them using the shoulderpads in a warcom article from ~2 weeks ago here, I don't think that's accurate. At least not at any fundamental level. LSM and caladancid 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5997862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSM Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 hour ago, WrathOfTheLion said: Considering they have images of them using the shoulderpads in a warcom article from ~2 weeks ago here, I don't think that's accurate. At least not at any fundamental level. They do fit, but if you really stare at them they're notably "shorter" than the new ones. So if you have the old resin on one side, and the new plastic on the other, they're a bit lopsided. caladancid and WrathOfTheLion 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5997867 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waaagh? Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I wouldn't be suprised if the redo them. Though to be fair they didn't match with the previous plastic kit. Rims and studs where way chunkier. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5997890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matrindur Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Waaagh? said: I wouldn't be suprised if the redo them. Though to be fair they didn't match with the previous plastic kit. Rims and studs where way chunkier. It would give them 18 more weeks of Heresy Thursdays Edited October 27, 2023 by Matrindur Casual Heresy, MegaVolt87, painting.for.my.sanity and 5 others 1 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5997891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matcap86 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 26 minutes ago, Matrindur said: It would give them 18 more weeks of Heresy Thursdays 36 if they also show off the helmets one by one. madlibrarian and lokkorex 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5997900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 The old resin and new plastic shoulder pads are the same size - or at least my Imperial Fist ones are. However the rims around the old resin ones are far thicker than on the plastics. You'd have to explain it as something like having thicker armour on the left side as it's facing towards the enemy. They don't match. Noserenda 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5997914 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astartes Consul Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 As mentioned, there has always been a slight discrepancy between the resin and plastic ones - I assume FW designed the resin shoulder pads to match all their resin armour sets and never tweaked them when the original plastic kits were released. It seems like a very FW thing to do... I doubt it would be considered viable to redo them all. As @Mandragola says, the size of the pad is the same and it is the rim that appears different. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5997917 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 10 hours ago, LSM said: They do fit, but if you really stare at them they're notably "shorter" than the new ones. So if you have the old resin on one side, and the new plastic on the other, they're a bit lopsided. Absolutely, they don't match aesthetically. It was the same with the old MK III kit, it was one of the main things that pushed me to really learning decals well. Whether they 'work for you' is a different story, but they do 'work' in the sense that you'll have no problems gluing them on with some superglue. LSM 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5997938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 The only pads that dont fit are the oldest metal ones, which is annoying as i had a bunch of them lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5997947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkMark Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Anybody else not able to buy the Battleforce today? Despite trying to reserve in 2 local shops, neither had the set to sell. Why have a 2 week window if you aren't going to deliver the required numbers to stores? Super disappointed and annoyed with this. I'm still on the waiting list, but this has soured my enthusiasm. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5998096 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 23 minutes ago, DarkMark said: Anybody else not able to buy the Battleforce today? Despite trying to reserve in 2 local shops, neither had the set to sell. Why have a 2 week window if you aren't going to deliver the required numbers to stores? Super disappointed and annoyed with this. I'm still on the waiting list, but this has soured my enthusiasm. Where are you based? Any online availability anywhere? Last I checked in Canadian online stores there were sets available. I hope you get sorted out Frater. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5998103 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varyn Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I preordered from Darksphere just after 10am on the 14th, I naively thought it would arrive today, but alas, no updates, it hasn’t even been been picked for packing/postage and the item isn’t on the website any more. So it begins Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5998104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Varyn said: I preordered from Darksphere just after 10am on the 14th, I naively thought it would arrive today, but alas, no updates, it hasn’t even been been picked for packing/postage and the item isn’t on the website any more. So it begins The main thing is they have stock for your order. Shipping times in the UK seem to vary greatly. I'm over in Canada and my box came in but the book is nowhere to be seen yet. Best of luck. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5998105 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 4 hours ago, Varyn said: I preordered from Darksphere just after 10am on the 14th, I naively thought it would arrive today, but alas, no updates, it hasn’t even been been picked for packing/postage and the item isn’t on the website any more. So it begins I talked to dark sphere earlier because I’m in the same situation. Apparently their order wasn’t dispatched from GW, but it should come next week. It’s annoying but they say we ought to get our stuff… one day. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5998143 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waaagh? Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 Picked mine up from the local GW this morning. Just got to get through another 3 hours at work before I can start building some mk3! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5998149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xirix Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 I was happy to have mine arrive, estimate was Monday, glad I was in to listen out for it. Looking forward to putting this Deredeo together. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5998154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted October 28, 2023 Share Posted October 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Mandragola said: I talked to dark sphere earlier because I’m in the same situation. Apparently their order wasn’t dispatched from GW, but it should come next week. It’s annoying but they say we ought to get our stuff… one day. The main thing is it arrives. With them now oos a few days later is better than not at all. Mandragola 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380773-updated-mark-iii-potential-deredeo/page/20/#findComment-5998163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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