Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) After what I learned in post like this one(https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380780-tactical-squads-10-or-20-members/#comment-5994700), I continue making list for my SoH, adding more infantry and taking away tanks like Predators (Nice tanks but a bit fragile even in squadrons). This and of course, I'll be happy with any comments and advices: ++ Crusade Force Organisation Chart (LA - XVI: Sons of Horus) [2,999Pts] ++ + Expanded Army Lists + Expanded Army List Profiles:: Exemplary Units On, Legacy Units On + Allegiance: + Allegiance: Traitor XVI: Sons of Horus + Rite of War: + Rite of War: The Long March (SoH) + HQ: + Centurion [95Pts] . Master of Signals: Artificer Armour . . Bolt Pistol . . Chainsword: Chainsword . Master of Signals (HSS) Centurion [105Pts]: Librarian, Psychic Discipline: Biomancy . Librarian: Artificer Armour . . Bolt Pistol . . Force Weapon: Force Sword Praetor [344Pts]: Chosen by Dark Gods (Traitor only), Warlord . Command Squad . . Legion Chosen: Bolter . . . Bolt Pistol . . . Power Weapon: Carsoran Power Tabar . . Legion Chosen: Bolter . . . Bolt Pistol . . . Power Weapon: Carsoran Power Tabar . . Legion Chosen: Bolter, Pair of Lightning Claws . . Legion Chosen: Bolter, Pair of Lightning Claws . . Legion Chosen: Bolter, Pair of Lightning Claws . . Legion Standard Bearer: Bolt Pistol, Power Fist . Legion Praetor: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Paragon Blade + Elites: + Apothecarion Detachment [185Pts] . Apothecary: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol . . Power Weapon: Power Sword (Tactical) . Apothecary: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol . . Power Weapon: Power Sword(Tactical) . Apothecary: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol . . Chainsword: Chainsword (HSS) Contemptor Dreadnought Talon [570Pts] . Contemptor Dreadnought: Combi-Bolter, Gravis Melta Cannon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon . Contemptor Dreadnought: Combi-Bolter, Gravis Lascannon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon . Contemptor Dreadnought: Combi-Bolter, Gravis Lascannon, Gravis Power Fist with in-built ranged weapon + Troops: + Despoiler Squad [164Pts]: Inductii . Despoiler w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Power Maul . Despoiler w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Power Maul . Despoiler w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Chainaxe, Legion Vexilla . 8x Despoilers (collective): 8x Bolt Pistol, 8x Chainaxe . Legion Despoiler Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour, Power Fist Tactical Squad [213Pts] . Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Fist . 13x Legionaries (collective): 13x Bolt Pistol, 13x Bolter, 13x Chain Bayonet . Legionary w/ Options:: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chain Bayonet, Legion Vexilla Tactical Squad [213Pts] . Legion Tactical Sergeant: Artificer Armour, Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Power Fist . 13x Legionaries (collective): 13x Bolt Pistol, 13x Bolter, 13x Chain Bayonet . Legionary w/ Options:: Bolt Pistol, Bolter, Chain Bayonet, Legion Vexilla Terminator Cataphractii Squad [315Pts]: Legion Vexilla . Cataphractii: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter . Cataphractii: Chainfist, Combi-Bolter . Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter . . Power Weapon: Power Maul . Cataphractii: Combi-Bolter . . Power Weapon: Power Sword . Cataphractii Sergeant: Combi-Bolter, Grenade Harness, Thunder Hammer . Cataphractii w/Heavy Weapon (1 in 5): Plasma Blaster, Power Fist Terminator Tartaros Squad [250Pts]: Legion Vexilla . Tartaros Sergeant w/Lightning Claws: Grenade Harness, Pair of Lightning Claws . 5x Tartaros w/Lightning Claws: 5x Pair of Lightning Claws + Fast Attack: + Sky-Hunter Squadron [150Pts] . Legion Sky-Hunter: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Multi-Melta . Legion Sky-Hunter: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Multi-Melta . Legion Sky-Hunter Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Multi-Melta . . Chainsword: Chainsword Sky-Hunter Squadron [150Pts] . Legion Sky-Hunter: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Multi-Melta . Legion Sky-Hunter: Bolt Pistol, Chainsword, Multi-Melta . Legion Sky-Hunter Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Multi-Melta . . Chainsword: Chainsword + Heavy Support: + Heavy Support Squad [245Pts]: Lascannon . Legion Support Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Power Armour . 5x Legionaries (collective): 5x Bolt Pistol . Legionary w/ Options: Bolt Pistol, Legion Vexilla . Legionary w/ Options:Nuncio Vox, Bolt Pistol ++ Total: [2,999Pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe Thanks in advance. Edited October 20, 2023 by AGRAMAR Fixed to 2999pts and add tags Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380839-soh-3000-with-no-tanks/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus_Ex_Machina Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 I haven´t played a single game of 30K although watched about two dozen battle reports in the past on Youtube. So here are my suggestions/thoughts: Having a cheap Tac squad in a rhino works wonders for obstructing firing lanes for the opponent and/or reacting in order to block paths for movement. This is a cannon fodder unit which slows down the enemy. Cataphractii terminator are really slow without a land raider or spartan. Terminators want to get stuck in as quick as possible so you may want to reconsider your decision. The unofficial rule of fair-play says one dread for each 1000 points so all is good on that front. Nobody will give you any beef for fielding them. Librarians have a cheesy psychic power of negating reactions from the opposition. Not sure, if you are aiming for that as I have zero knowledge of psychic disciplines. Command squads are rarely picked. Maybe they are overcosted for what they bring to the table. If it is a casual game they will be fine though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380839-soh-3000-with-no-tanks/#findComment-5995057 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf Posted October 14, 2023 Author Share Posted October 14, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Deus_Ex_Machina said: I haven´t played a single game of 30K although watched about two dozen battle reports in the past on Youtube. So here are my suggestions/thoughts: Having a cheap Tac squad in a rhino works wonders for obstructing firing lanes for the opponent and/or reacting in order to block paths for movement. This is a cannon fodder unit which slows down the enemy. Cataphractii terminator are really slow without a land raider or spartan. Terminators want to get stuck in as quick as possible so you may want to reconsider your decision. The unofficial rule of fair-play says one dread for each 1000 points so all is good on that front. Nobody will give you any beef for fielding them. Librarians have a cheesy psychic power of negating reactions from the opposition. Not sure, if you are aiming for that as I have zero knowledge of psychic disciplines. Command squads are rarely picked. Maybe they are overcosted for what they bring to the table. If it is a casual game they will be fine though. Well, having The Long March RoW movement is really improved with +1 M just for moving (No Run or Assault), so every body moves 8" excep Cataphratii squad, moving 7". But thanks to this RoW both gains Outflank, so Cataphratii are quite fast. And having a Master of Signals, they arrive in time. As I said in the tittle, I wanted to try a list with no tanks. Rhinos are excellent blocking lines and getting units faster, but with M 8", I think are not needed The librarian is to make one unit near more powerful in combat and/or resistant if I make psychic checks. But I'll experiment with disciplines. For now, is a list for casual games. Anyway, I think command squads are quite interesting: 2W,2+ armor saves, are Line until bearer dies, and the weapon options are interesting and cheap (Power Weapons for +5 points for example) and add to this the options and rules for being SoH. Thanks for your comment! Edited October 14, 2023 by AGRAMAR Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380839-soh-3000-with-no-tanks/#findComment-5995066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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