Brother Nathan Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 ++Tyranid Warriors++ dual unit, the warriors. which do you prefer, how do you find. are they viable. would points changes help? do they have/fill a niche? To compliment a list, or to build a list around? Will the beta rules affect your list(s)? And at what points restrictions? What size unit? Will you be running multiple units? What Enhancements, Hyper Adaptations and Stratagems do you prefer and how much does it depend on the above choices? Are you buffing this unit? If so, how Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380848-tyranid-unit-of-the-week-10th-tyranid-warriors/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nathan Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 probably one of our most disapointing datasheets. they just dont cut it for me. whilst not truely terible their abilitys are so underwehlming its almost sad. yes they get a venomcannon and a strangler per each 3 and the shooting is ok.... and the melee varient is twin linked and such but shoot and charge isnt really helping this unit much nor is rerolling 1s. they needed more or cheaper. really they feel like a wet fish compared to previous iterations, especially after they powerhouse of the army last edition. they arnt good enough to suit any real role. nor cheap enough to be generalists and for what use their synapse is.. id take our other sources... i kinda nearly feel like they need the primes ability and should give it out to units in range... as is they havent made it into one of my 10th edition lists which is sad as they were the first 40k models i ever had and this is the first time ive ever not used them... Zoatibix 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380848-tyranid-unit-of-the-week-10th-tyranid-warriors/#findComment-5995587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 Not used them in 10th yet, other 70pt options seem way better, like barbgaunts, leapers, lictors, raveners, etc. The venom cannon is way nerfed and they've lost a lot of their interactions. One thing I noticed recently was that the addition of a winged warrior prime makes the whole unit VANGUARD INVADERS so there might be some hijinks you can get up to there with their specific strats. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380848-tyranid-unit-of-the-week-10th-tyranid-warriors/#findComment-5995720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoatibix Posted October 17, 2023 Share Posted October 17, 2023 I mean…at least they don’t each explode to a single poke from a power fist…? The melee variant doesn’t seem to gain enough over the shooty variant for what it loses in firepower, IMO. If they had 2dmg on their melee attack, it would be a balanced trade. Xenith 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380848-tyranid-unit-of-the-week-10th-tyranid-warriors/#findComment-5995902 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted October 18, 2023 Share Posted October 18, 2023 Yea, that's my thought too. They gain twin linked for a 30% increase in points? Melee warriors abilities are also inferior to fall back and shoot/charge also, they're a big miss. Maybe at 50points they would see the table! Brother Nathan 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380848-tyranid-unit-of-the-week-10th-tyranid-warriors/#findComment-5995990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Nathan Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share Posted October 18, 2023 I also dont know what they were thinking with assault warrior abilitys .. reroll 1s on failed saves... but if youve had most if not all your save ignored thats... reroll 1s... why not ignore a point of ap or remove a point of damage... i think thats what they thought that was equivilant to... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380848-tyranid-unit-of-the-week-10th-tyranid-warriors/#findComment-5996022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filius Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 (edited) On 10/17/2023 at 10:43 AM, Xenith said: One thing I noticed recently was that the addition of a winged warrior prime makes the whole unit VANGUARD INVADERS so there might be some hijinks you can get up to there with their specific strats. Oh, really?! I haven't seen that rule anywhere, yet … can you tell me, where I find that? Thanks in advance! Edit/Upate: Found it myself. Rules Commentary Version 1.2, Page 8 … Quote Some units can contain models that have different keywords. While this is the case, such a unit is considered to have all of the keywords of all of its models, and so is affected by any rule that applies to units with any of those keywords. Remember that attacks are made against units, not models. If a rule only applies to models with a specific keyword, then it instead only applies to models in such a unit that have the correct keyword Well now … that's interesting! Edited February 10 by Filius Xenith 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380848-tyranid-unit-of-the-week-10th-tyranid-warriors/#findComment-6022031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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