lonewolf81 Posted November 23, 2023 Share Posted November 23, 2023 another version is to change the devastators for hellblasters and the incursors for 5x wulfen (4xhammers,1xclaws) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380866-running-stormlance/page/2/#findComment-6005045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
yan Posted November 26, 2023 Share Posted November 26, 2023 (edited) On 10/26/2023 at 10:17 PM, yan said: I hadnt much time to play yet. But this might be my take for a big gt comming end of november. CHARACTERS Canis Wolfborn (75 points) Chaplain (60 points) Wolf Guard Battle Leader on Thunderwolf (80 points) Wolf Guard Pack Leader in Terminator Armour (40 points) Wolf Lord on Thunderwolf (115 points) • Warlord • 1x Close combat weapon 1x Crushing teeth and claws 1x Relic Shield 1x Thunder hammer • Enhancement: The Honour Vehement BATTLELINE Blood Claws (140 points) Blood Claws (140 points) OTHER DATASHEETS Fenrisian Wolves (30 points) Land Raider (240 points) Land Raider Redeemer (260 points) Predator Annihilator (130 points) Thunderwolf Cavalry (180 points) Thunderwolf Cavalry (180 points) Thunderwolf Cavalry (180 points) Whirlwind (145 points) So ive played a major gt with this list, only double landraider for the lascannons and an extra pack of genresian wolves. Ive only managed to win one game unfortunatly (against gsc). Lost one game agains demons proper. And had four really tight games against two similar greyknight lists, tau and an ironhand list. On all the games (except demons) i could put a lot of pressure on the opponent and could keep them in their deployment zone. The only thing i was lacking was some units to score secondarys and to screen out my backfield. The misions we played where also quit easy to score primary for my opponent, and with a few little mistakes i gave some games away on points. I played 77-78 against tau. 68-75 against greyknights (he managed to win 21points last turn with deepstriking and charging on to my home objective while i had defend home objective and he pulled take opponents home objective) 91-68 against gsc 36-83 against demons (3 big chickens, shalaxi hellbane, belakor and sone small demons, i pretty much got tabled turn 3) 64-64 against grey knight, i really thought i had him but made some movement error and he kept making his invulnsaves. 87-92 against iron hand list with 3 redemptors, 3 balistus, 10 heavy intersessors (pretty good he!), 2x 3 eredicators, 2x 3 inceptors. Was a really fun game and i also thought i beated him, for 3 turns i had him stuck in his dz. But he managed to kill my stuff pretty easely. Was also last game so i wasnt paying a lot of attention, so eventually he had the last two turns to score a lot of points and managed to steal the game. Overall a lot of really fun games against nice opponents (only the second greyknight player was a bit salty) So i need more units to play the mission and infiltrators. So i was thinking about something like this. Maybe i should still swap out the predator or whirlwind against skyclaws and Fenrisian wolves, but i also like their long range thread to take out their objective units Reveal hidden contents y4 (2000 points) Space Marines Space Wolves Strike Force (2000 points) Stormlance Task Force CHARACTERS Canis Wolfborn (75 points) • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Crushing teeth and claws 1x Wolf claws Wolf Guard Battle Leader on Thunderwolf (90 points) • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Crushing teeth and claws 1x Relic weapon • Enhancement: Hunter’s Instincts Wolf Lord on Thunderwolf (100 points) • Warlord • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Crushing teeth and claws 1x Relic weapon BATTLELINE Blood Claws (140 points) • 1x Blood Claw Pack Leader • 1x Astartes chainsword 1x Bolt pistol • 9x Blood Claw • 9x Astartes chainsword 9x Bolt pistol OTHER DATASHEETS Infiltrator Squad (100 points) • 1x Infiltrator Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Close combat weapon 1x Marksman bolt carbine • 4x Infiltrator • 4x Bolt pistol 4x Close combat weapon 4x Marksman bolt carbine Land Raider (240 points) • 1x Armoured tracks 2x Godhammer lascannon 1x Twin heavy bolter Predator Destructor (130 points) • 1x Armoured tracks 1x Predator autocannon Scout Squad (55 points) • 1x Scout Sergeant • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Boltgun 1x Close combat weapon • 4x Scout • 4x Bolt pistol 2x Boltgun 4x Close combat weapon 1x Missile launcher 1x Scout sniper rifle Thunderwolf Cavalry (180 points) • 1x Thunderwolf Cavalry Pack Leader • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Crushing teeth and claws 1x Heirloom weapon • 5x Thunderwolf Cavalry • 5x Crushing teeth and claws 5x Heirloom weapon 5x Storm Shield Thunderwolf Cavalry (180 points) • 1x Thunderwolf Cavalry Pack Leader • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Crushing teeth and claws 1x Heirloom weapon • 5x Thunderwolf Cavalry • 5x Crushing teeth and claws 5x Heirloom weapon 5x Storm Shield Thunderwolf Cavalry (180 points) • 1x Thunderwolf Cavalry Pack Leader • 1x Bolt pistol 1x Crushing teeth and claws 1x Heirloom weapon • 5x Thunderwolf Cavalry • 5x Crushing teeth and claws 5x Heirloom weapon 5x Storm Shield Vindicator (190 points) • 1x Armoured tracks 1x Demolisher cannon Whirlwind (145 points) • 1x Armoured tracks 1x Whirlwind vengeance launcher Wolf Guard Terminators (195 points) • 1x Wolf Guard Terminator Pack Leader • 1x Power weapon 1x Storm bolter • 4x Wolf Guard Terminator • 4x Power fist 4x Storm bolter Exported with App Version: v1.7.0 (29), Data Version: v304 Edited November 26, 2023 by yan Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380866-running-stormlance/page/2/#findComment-6005644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apokalypsi Posted November 27, 2023 Author Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) If you're wanting Skyclaws, maybe drop the WGT for 2 packs. The list looks pretty solid though. Edited November 27, 2023 by Apokalypsi yan 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380866-running-stormlance/page/2/#findComment-6005865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I have decided to abandon stormlance. I was warned in advance that stormlance doesn't have killing power and now I understand. I have had a run of games where I simply can't punch through enemy armor and stormlance has no stratagems or tricks to help add AP My opponents are saving on 4s against AP3 ranged attacks using combinations of cover and AOC...vindicator shots are just bouncing left and right off wraithguard and SM vehicles etc. It gets even worse in melee where TWC have AP1 only and the trend is a 2+ armor save. Even murderfang at AP2 bounces against someone with AOC access I am going to test similar lists but using Gladius detachment instead Remove cover and access to extra AP for ranged will be a big deal using storm of fire Honor the chapter gives me access to AP in melee as well Time for more tests Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380866-running-stormlance/page/2/#findComment-6006097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpwyrm Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 4 hours ago, TiguriusX said: I have decided to abandon stormlance. I was warned in advance that stormlance doesn't have killing power and now I understand. I have had a run of games where I simply can't punch through enemy armor and stormlance has no stratagems or tricks to help add AP My opponents are saving on 4s against AP3 ranged attacks using combinations of cover and AOC...vindicator shots are just bouncing left and right off wraithguard and SM vehicles etc. It gets even worse in melee where TWC have AP1 only and the trend is a 2+ armor save. Even murderfang at AP2 bounces against someone with AOC access I am going to test similar lists but using Gladius detachment instead Remove cover and access to extra AP for ranged will be a big deal using storm of fire Honor the chapter gives me access to AP in melee as well Time for more tests Same build with Redeemer and Hounds of Morkai or do you adjust to the new Detachment? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380866-running-stormlance/page/2/#findComment-6006147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 55 minutes ago, jpwyrm said: Same build with Redeemer and Hounds of Morkai or do you adjust to the new Detachment? I am going to adjust...Hounds of morkai are too niche New list version 1 Judiciar goes with intercessors to sticky things and free me up to move other units around. The judiciar with enhancement and fight last has a fair chance to survive a charge by 5 chosen + chaos lord if I can precision the lord out first. The apothecary and gravis captain attach based on what my opponent is running. Gravis captain gives me access to a second usage of storm of fire or honor the chapter as needed. Apothecary gives the lethal and sustain combo with storm of fire Aggressors or eradicators get to ride in LRR depending on opponent Lancers and vindicator round out the list to help erase big threats. Vindy gets oath + storm of fire when a priority target needs killing Spoiler ++ Army Roster (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Space Wolves) [2,000pts] ++ + Configuration + Battle Size: 2. Strike Force (2000 Point limit) Detachment: Gladius Task Force Show/Hide Options: Agents of the Imperium are visible, Imperial Knights are visible, Legends are visible, Titans are visible, Unaligned Forces are visible, Unaligned Fortifications are visible + Epic Hero + Murderfang [170pts]: Heavy Flamer, Storm bolter, The Murderclaws + Character + Apothecary Biologis [85pts]: Absolver Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Fire Discipline Captain in Gravis Armour [80pts] . Boltstorm Gauntlet, Powerfist, and Relic weapon Chainsword: Boltstorm Gauntlet, Power Fist, Relic Chainsword Judiciar [85pts]: Absolver Bolt Pistol, Executioner Relic Blade, The Honour Vehement, Warlord Librarian in Phobos Armour [70pts]: Bolt Pistol, Force Weapon, Smite + Battleline + Intercessor Squad [85pts]: Astartes Grenade Launcher . Intercessor Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Bolt Rifle, Thunder Hammer . 4x Intercessors: 4x Bolt Pistol, 4x Bolt Rifle, 4x Close Combat Weapon + Infantry + Aggressor Squad [220pts] . Aggressor Sergeant: Twin Power Fist . 5x Aggressors: 5x Twin Power Fist . Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets & Fragstorm Grenade Launcher: Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets, Fragstorm Grenade Launcher Eradicator Squad [190pts] . 3x Eradicator: 3x Bolt Pistol, 3x Close Combat Weapon, 3x Melta Rifle . Eradicator Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Melta Rifle . Eradicator with Multi-melta: Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Multi-melta . Eradicator with Multi-melta: Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Multi-melta Infiltrator Squad [100pts]: Helix Gauntlet, Infiltrator Comms Array . Infiltrator Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine . 4x Infiltrators: 4x Bolt Pistol, 4x Close Combat Weapon, 4x Marksman Bolt Carbine Scout Squad [55pts] . Scout Sergeant: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon . Scout w/ Heavy Weapon: Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Heavy Bolter . Scout w/ Scout Sniper Rifle: Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Scout Sniper Rifle . 2x Scouts w/ Astartes Shotgun: 2x Astartes Shotgun, 2x Bolt Pistol, 2x Close Combat Weapon + Vehicle + Gladiator Lancer [160pts]: 2 Storm Bolters, Armoured Hull, Icarus Rocket Pod, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, Lancer Laser Destroyer Gladiator Lancer [160pts]: 2 Storm Bolters, Armoured Hull, Icarus Rocket Pod, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, Lancer Laser Destroyer Land Raider Redeemer [260pts]: Armoured Tracks, 2x Flamestorm Cannon, Hunter Killer Missile, Multi-melta, Storm Bolter, Twin Assault Cannon Vindicator [190pts]: Armoured Tracks, Demolisher Cannon, Hunter Killer Missile, Storm Bolter + Allied Units + Callidus Assassin [90pts]: Neural shredder, Phase sword and poison blades ++ Total: [2,000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net) Konnavaer and Apokalypsi 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/380866-running-stormlance/page/2/#findComment-6006159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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