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On 10/26/2023 at 10:17 PM, yan said:

I hadnt much time to play yet. But this might be my take for a big gt comming end of november.


CHARACTERS

Canis Wolfborn (75 points)

Chaplain (60 points)

Wolf Guard Battle Leader on Thunderwolf (80 points)

Wolf Guard Pack Leader in Terminator Armour (40 points)
 

Wolf Lord on Thunderwolf (115 points)
  • Warlord
  • 1x Close combat weapon
    1x Crushing teeth and claws
    1x Relic Shield
    1x Thunder hammer
  • Enhancement: The Honour Vehement

 

BATTLELINE

Blood Claws (140 points)

Blood Claws (140 points)

 

OTHER DATASHEETS

Fenrisian Wolves (30 points)
 

Land Raider (240 points)
 

Land Raider Redeemer (260 points)
 

Predator Annihilator (130 points)
 

Thunderwolf Cavalry (180 points)

Thunderwolf Cavalry (180 points)

Thunderwolf Cavalry (180 points)
   

Whirlwind (145 points)
 

 

 

So ive played a major gt with this list, only double landraider for the lascannons and an extra pack of genresian wolves.

Ive only managed to win one game unfortunatly (against gsc). Lost one game agains demons proper. And had four really tight games against two similar greyknight lists, tau and an ironhand list.

 

On all the games (except demons) i could put a lot of pressure on the opponent and could keep them in their deployment zone. The only thing i was lacking was some units to score secondarys and to screen out my backfield.

The misions we played where also quit easy to score primary for my opponent, and with a few little mistakes i gave some games away on points.

I played 77-78 against tau.

68-75 against greyknights (he managed to win 21points last turn with deepstriking and charging on to my home objective while i had defend home objective and he pulled take opponents home objective)

91-68 against gsc

36-83 against demons (3 big chickens, shalaxi hellbane, belakor and sone small demons, i pretty much got tabled turn 3)

64-64 against grey knight, i really thought i had him but made some movement error and he kept making his invulnsaves.

87-92 against iron hand list with 3 redemptors, 3 balistus, 10 heavy intersessors (pretty good he!), 2x 3 eredicators, 2x 3 inceptors. Was a really fun game and i also thought i beated him, for 3 turns i had him stuck in his dz. But he managed to kill my stuff pretty easely. Was also last game so i wasnt paying a lot of attention, so eventually he had the last two turns to score a lot of points and managed to steal the game.

 

Overall a lot of really fun games against nice opponents (only the second greyknight player was a bit salty)

 

So i need more units to play the mission and infiltrators.

So i was thinking about something like this.

Maybe i should still swap out the predator or whirlwind against skyclaws and Fenrisian wolves, but i also like their long range thread to take out their objective units

 

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y4 (2000 points)

Space Marines
Space Wolves
Strike Force (2000 points)
Stormlance Task Force


CHARACTERS

Canis Wolfborn (75 points)
  • 1x Bolt pistol
    1x Crushing teeth and claws
    1x Wolf claws

Wolf Guard Battle Leader on Thunderwolf (90 points)
  • 1x Bolt Pistol
    1x Crushing teeth and claws
    1x Relic weapon
  • Enhancement: Hunter’s Instincts

Wolf Lord on Thunderwolf (100 points)
  • Warlord
  • 1x Bolt Pistol
    1x Crushing teeth and claws
    1x Relic weapon


BATTLELINE

Blood Claws (140 points)
  • 1x Blood Claw Pack Leader
    • 1x Astartes chainsword
      1x Bolt pistol
  • 9x Blood Claw
    • 9x Astartes chainsword
      9x Bolt pistol


OTHER DATASHEETS

Infiltrator Squad (100 points)
  • 1x Infiltrator Sergeant
    • 1x Bolt pistol
      1x Close combat weapon
      1x Marksman bolt carbine
  • 4x Infiltrator
    • 4x Bolt pistol
      4x Close combat weapon
      4x Marksman bolt carbine

Land Raider (240 points)
  • 1x Armoured tracks
    2x Godhammer lascannon
    1x Twin heavy bolter

Predator Destructor (130 points)
  • 1x Armoured tracks
    1x Predator autocannon

Scout Squad (55 points)
  • 1x Scout Sergeant
    • 1x Bolt pistol
      1x Boltgun
      1x Close combat weapon
  • 4x Scout
    • 4x Bolt pistol
      2x Boltgun
      4x Close combat weapon
      1x Missile launcher
      1x Scout sniper rifle

Thunderwolf Cavalry (180 points)
  • 1x Thunderwolf Cavalry Pack Leader
    • 1x Bolt pistol
      1x Crushing teeth and claws
      1x Heirloom weapon
  • 5x Thunderwolf Cavalry
    • 5x Crushing teeth and claws
      5x Heirloom weapon
      5x Storm Shield

Thunderwolf Cavalry (180 points)
  • 1x Thunderwolf Cavalry Pack Leader
    • 1x Bolt pistol
      1x Crushing teeth and claws
      1x Heirloom weapon
  • 5x Thunderwolf Cavalry
    • 5x Crushing teeth and claws
      5x Heirloom weapon
      5x Storm Shield

Thunderwolf Cavalry (180 points)
  • 1x Thunderwolf Cavalry Pack Leader
    • 1x Bolt pistol
      1x Crushing teeth and claws
      1x Heirloom weapon
  • 5x Thunderwolf Cavalry
    • 5x Crushing teeth and claws
      5x Heirloom weapon
      5x Storm Shield

Vindicator (190 points)
  • 1x Armoured tracks
    1x Demolisher cannon

Whirlwind (145 points)
  • 1x Armoured tracks
    1x Whirlwind vengeance launcher

Wolf Guard Terminators (195 points)
  • 1x Wolf Guard Terminator Pack Leader
    • 1x Power weapon
      1x Storm bolter
  • 4x Wolf Guard Terminator
    • 4x Power fist
      4x Storm bolter

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I have decided to abandon stormlance.

I was warned in advance that stormlance doesn't have killing power and now I understand.

 

I have had a run of games where I simply can't punch through enemy armor and stormlance has no stratagems or tricks to help add AP

 

My opponents are saving on 4s against AP3 ranged attacks using combinations of cover and AOC...vindicator shots are just bouncing left and right off wraithguard and SM vehicles etc.

It gets even worse in melee where TWC have AP1 only and the trend is a 2+ armor save.  Even murderfang at AP2 bounces against someone with AOC access

 

I am going to test similar lists but using Gladius detachment instead

Remove cover and access to extra AP for ranged will be a big deal using storm of fire

Honor the chapter gives me access to AP in melee as well

 

Time for more tests

 

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4 hours ago, TiguriusX said:

I have decided to abandon stormlance.

I was warned in advance that stormlance doesn't have killing power and now I understand.

 

I have had a run of games where I simply can't punch through enemy armor and stormlance has no stratagems or tricks to help add AP

 

My opponents are saving on 4s against AP3 ranged attacks using combinations of cover and AOC...vindicator shots are just bouncing left and right off wraithguard and SM vehicles etc.

It gets even worse in melee where TWC have AP1 only and the trend is a 2+ armor save.  Even murderfang at AP2 bounces against someone with AOC access

 

I am going to test similar lists but using Gladius detachment instead

Remove cover and access to extra AP for ranged will be a big deal using storm of fire

Honor the chapter gives me access to AP in melee as well

 

Time for more tests

 

 

Same build with Redeemer and Hounds of Morkai or do you adjust to the new Detachment?

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55 minutes ago, jpwyrm said:

 

Same build with Redeemer and Hounds of Morkai or do you adjust to the new Detachment?

 

I am going to adjust...Hounds of morkai are too niche 

 

New list version 1

 

Judiciar goes with intercessors to sticky things and free me up to move other units around.  The judiciar with enhancement and fight last has a fair chance to survive a charge by 5 chosen + chaos lord if I can precision the lord out first. 

 

The apothecary and gravis captain attach based on what my opponent is running.

 

Gravis captain gives me access to a second usage of storm of fire or honor the chapter as needed.

 

Apothecary gives the lethal and sustain combo with storm of fire

 

Aggressors or eradicators get to ride in LRR depending on opponent 

 

Lancers and vindicator round out the list to help erase big threats.

 

Vindy gets oath + storm of fire when a priority target needs killing

 

 

 

Spoiler

 

++ Army Roster (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Space Wolves) [2,000pts] ++

 

+ Configuration +

 

 

Battle Size: 2. Strike Force (2000 Point limit)

 

Detachment: Gladius Task Force

 

Show/Hide Options: Agents of the Imperium are visible, Imperial Knights are visible, Legends are visible, Titans are visible, Unaligned Forces are visible, Unaligned Fortifications are visible

 

+ Epic Hero +

 

 

Murderfang [170pts]: Heavy Flamer, Storm bolter, The Murderclaws

 

+ Character +

 

 

Apothecary Biologis [85pts]: Absolver Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Fire Discipline

 

Captain in Gravis Armour [80pts]

 

. Boltstorm Gauntlet, Powerfist, and Relic weapon Chainsword: Boltstorm Gauntlet, Power Fist, Relic Chainsword

 

Judiciar [85pts]: Absolver Bolt Pistol, Executioner Relic Blade, The Honour Vehement, Warlord

 

Librarian in Phobos Armour [70pts]: Bolt Pistol, Force Weapon, Smite

 

+ Battleline +

 

 

Intercessor Squad [85pts]: Astartes Grenade Launcher

 

. Intercessor Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Bolt Rifle, Thunder Hammer

. 4x Intercessors: 4x Bolt Pistol, 4x Bolt Rifle, 4x Close Combat Weapon

 

+ Infantry +

 

 

Aggressor Squad [220pts]

 

. Aggressor Sergeant: Twin Power Fist

. 5x Aggressors: 5x Twin Power Fist

. Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets & Fragstorm Grenade Launcher: Auto Boltstorm Gauntlets, Fragstorm Grenade Launcher

 

Eradicator Squad [190pts]

 

. 3x Eradicator: 3x Bolt Pistol, 3x Close Combat Weapon, 3x Melta Rifle

. Eradicator Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Melta Rifle

. Eradicator with Multi-melta: Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Multi-melta

. Eradicator with Multi-melta: Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Multi-melta

 

Infiltrator Squad [100pts]: Helix Gauntlet, Infiltrator Comms Array

 

. Infiltrator Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine

. 4x Infiltrators: 4x Bolt Pistol, 4x Close Combat Weapon, 4x Marksman Bolt Carbine

 

Scout Squad [55pts]

 

. Scout Sergeant: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon

. Scout w/ Heavy Weapon: Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Heavy Bolter

. Scout w/ Scout Sniper Rifle: Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Scout Sniper Rifle

. 2x Scouts w/ Astartes Shotgun: 2x Astartes Shotgun, 2x Bolt Pistol, 2x Close Combat Weapon

 

+ Vehicle +

 

 

Gladiator Lancer [160pts]: 2 Storm Bolters, Armoured Hull, Icarus Rocket Pod, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, Lancer Laser Destroyer

 

Gladiator Lancer [160pts]: 2 Storm Bolters, Armoured Hull, Icarus Rocket Pod, Ironhail Heavy Stubber, Lancer Laser Destroyer

 

Land Raider Redeemer [260pts]: Armoured Tracks, 2x Flamestorm Cannon, Hunter Killer Missile, Multi-melta, Storm Bolter, Twin Assault Cannon

 

Vindicator [190pts]: Armoured Tracks, Demolisher Cannon, Hunter Killer Missile, Storm Bolter

 

+ Allied Units +

 

 

Callidus Assassin [90pts]: Neural shredder, Phase sword and poison blades

 

++ Total: [2,000pts] ++

 

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