TiguriusX Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 Every wolf lord has their preferred form of combat. I am drawn to the iron wolves right now. You can make any dread -1 base armor save. Save AP4 meltas on 3s. Mercy is weakness makes everything more deadly from whirlwinds to murderfang melee. Logan gives an on demand reroll all hits in melee so you can use oath for shooting (whirlwinds hint hint) and never lose effectiveness. Just enterrd it and cant wait to field test ++ Army Roster (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Space Wolves) [1,995pts] ++ + Configuration + Battle Size: 2. Strike Force (2000 Point limit) Detachment: Ironstorm Spearhead Show/Hide Options: Agents of the Imperium are visible, Imperial Knights are visible, Legends are visible, Titans are visible, Unaligned Forces are visible, Unaligned Fortifications are visible + Epic Hero + Logan Grimnar [100pts]: Storm Bolter, The Axe Morkai, Warlord Murderfang [170pts]: Heavy Flamer, Storm bolter, The Murderclaws + Character + Librarian in Phobos Armour [70pts]: Bolt Pistol, Force Weapon, Smite Lieutenant with Combi-weapon [70pts]: Combi-weapon, Paired Combat Blades Techmarine [95pts]: Forge Bolter, Grav-pistol, Omnissian Power Axe, Servo-arm, Target Augury Web [Aura] Techmarine [80pts]: Adept of the Omnissiah, Forge Bolter, Grav-pistol, Omnissian Power Axe, Servo-arm + Infantry + Centurion Devastator Squad [175pts] . Devastator Centurion: Centurion Fists, Centurion Missile Launcher, Grav-cannon . Devastator Centurion: Centurion Fists, Centurion Missile Launcher, Grav-cannon . Devastator Centurion Sergeant: Centurion Fists, Centurion Missile Launcher, Grav-cannon Hounds of Morkai [180pts] . 10x Hound of Morkai: 10x Morkai bolt pistol, 10x Morkai combat knife Infiltrator Squad [100pts]: Helix Gauntlet, Infiltrator Comms Array . Infiltrator Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine . 4x Infiltrators: 4x Bolt Pistol, 4x Close Combat Weapon, 4x Marksman Bolt Carbine + Beast + Fenrisian Wolves [30pts] . 5x Fenrisian Wolf: 5x Teeth and claws + Vehicle + Redemptor Dreadnought [200pts]: Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator, Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Redemptor Fist, Twin Fragstorm Grenade Launcher Redemptor Dreadnought [200pts]: Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator, Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Redemptor Fist, Twin Fragstorm Grenade Launcher Whirlwind [145pts]: Armoured Tracks, Hunter Killer Missile, Storm Bolter, Whirlwind Vengeance Launcher Whirlwind [145pts]: Armoured Tracks, Hunter Killer Missile, Storm Bolter, Whirlwind Vengeance Launcher Whirlwind [145pts]: Armoured Tracks, Hunter Killer Missile, Storm Bolter, Whirlwind Vengeance Launcher + Allied Units + Callidus Assassin [90pts]: Neural shredder, Phase sword and poison blades ++ Total: [1,995pts] ++ Any other iron wolves to share their experiences? Prot, Karhedron and Apokalypsi 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 54 minutes ago, TiguriusX said: You can make any dread -1 base armor save. Save AP4 meltas on 3s. How do you manage this? I can see Cover bringing it to 1+ and Ancient Fury to 0+, what am I missing? I am wondering if Ironstorm would suit things like MSU Grey Hunters as they can pack 2 melta/plasma/grav guns in a 5-man squad and pop them in a Razorback (or 2 in a Rhino). Grey Hunters outperform Intercessors IMHO as they get AP-1 in melee and the 2 special weapons makes up for having Bolters instead of Bolt Rifles. TiguriusX 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted October 27, 2023 Author Share Posted October 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Karhedron said: How do you manage this? I can see Cover bringing it to 1+ and Ancient Fury to 0+, what am I missing? I am wondering if Ironstorm would suit things like MSU Grey Hunters as they can pack 2 melta/plasma/grav guns in a 5-man squad and pop them in a Razorback (or 2 in a Rhino). Grey Hunters outperform Intercessors IMHO as they get AP-1 in melee and the 2 special weapons makes up for having Bolters instead of Bolt Rifles. 2+ base armor save 1+ from command phase 1cp for ancient fury stratagem Then 2 more buffs using AoC and cover (cover is easy to get in 10th) *works for redemptors as well And if he makes melee he can uses mercy is weakness to go nutso every activation...thats the full wombo combo sustained hits on 5+ for murderfang...yes please my list combo gives full reolls and hit on 2s so you fish for 5+ and reroll everything Murderfang will always be hitting an understrength unit bc a simple tank shock will plink MW on the target Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted October 28, 2023 Author Share Posted October 28, 2023 Doh...just learned the list idea is not sound There is a rule commentary that characteristics cant be improved to 1 So the ancient fury save improvement interaction doesnt work with 2+ save dreads An invictor could benefit though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I still like the idea, and the offensive output benefits work really well with Wolves. I don't think the lack of a 1+ save actually kills this idea. I think it still gives you a firm fire base while being a strong melee force. Karhedron and TiguriusX 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted November 8, 2023 Author Share Posted November 8, 2023 I just entered a massive teams event 34 total teams of 5 players each We may not be the top in singles events but marines have value in teams We are good at being sacrificed into a matchup nobody else wants but still having a decent score 2 space wolves total...our faction is not very popular right now I'm running the same iron wolves concept SM FAQ removed the buff to save characteristic (didn't apply to MF or redemptors anyways) But this iron wolves concept still works. Murderfang can get OC1 using the strat and score an objective unexpectedly Logan wasn't worth his points in my test games Neither were morkai hounds...they were fun but competitive list needs hyper efficient So I swapped them out for another centurion squad (transport meta is a thing in teams...centurions are good at popping them open) Added 2 scouts to help with scoring secondaries Spoiler ++ Army Roster (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Space Wolves) [2,000pts] ++ + Configuration + Battle Size: 2. Strike Force (2000 Point limit) Detachment: Ironstorm Spearhead Show/Hide Options: Agents of the Imperium are visible, Imperial Knights are visible, Legends are visible, Titans are visible, Unaligned Forces are visible, Unaligned Fortifications are visible + Epic Hero + Murderfang [170pts]: Heavy Flamer, Storm bolter, The Murderclaws + Character + Librarian in Phobos Armour [70pts]: Bolt Pistol, Force Weapon, Smite, Warlord Lieutenant with Combi-weapon [70pts]: Combi-weapon, Paired Combat Blades Techmarine [95pts]: Forge Bolter, Grav-pistol, Omnissian Power Axe, Servo-arm, Target Augury Web [Aura] Techmarine [80pts]: Adept of the Omnissiah, Forge Bolter, Grav-pistol, Omnissian Power Axe, Servo-arm + Infantry + Centurion Devastator Squad [175pts] . Devastator Centurion: Centurion Fists, Centurion Missile Launcher, Grav-cannon . Devastator Centurion: Centurion Fists, Centurion Missile Launcher, Grav-cannon . Devastator Centurion Sergeant: Centurion Fists, Centurion Missile Launcher, Grav-cannon Centurion Devastator Squad [175pts] . Devastator Centurion: Centurion Fists, Centurion Missile Launcher, Grav-cannon . Devastator Centurion: Centurion Fists, Centurion Missile Launcher, Grav-cannon . Devastator Centurion Sergeant: Centurion Fists, Centurion Missile Launcher, Grav-cannon Infiltrator Squad [100pts]: Helix Gauntlet, Infiltrator Comms Array . Infiltrator Sergeant: Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Marksman Bolt Carbine . 4x Infiltrators: 4x Bolt Pistol, 4x Close Combat Weapon, 4x Marksman Bolt Carbine Scout Squad [55pts] . Scout Sergeant: Astartes Shotgun, Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon . Scout w/ Heavy Weapon: Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Missile Launcher . Scout w/ Scout Sniper Rifle: Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Scout Sniper Rifle . 2x Scouts w/ Boltgun: 2x Bolt Pistol, 2x Boltgun, 2x Close Combat Weapon Scout Squad [55pts] . Scout Sergeant: Astartes Shotgun, Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon . Scout w/ Heavy Weapon: Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Missile Launcher . Scout w/ Scout Sniper Rifle: Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Scout Sniper Rifle . 2x Scouts w/ Boltgun: 2x Bolt Pistol, 2x Boltgun, 2x Close Combat Weapon + Beast + Fenrisian Wolves [30pts] . 5x Fenrisian Wolf: 5x Teeth and claws + Vehicle + Redemptor Dreadnought [200pts]: Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator, Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Redemptor Fist, Twin Fragstorm Grenade Launcher Redemptor Dreadnought [200pts]: Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator, Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Redemptor Fist, Twin Fragstorm Grenade Launcher Whirlwind [145pts]: Armoured Tracks, Hunter Killer Missile, Storm Bolter, Whirlwind Vengeance Launcher Whirlwind [145pts]: Armoured Tracks, Hunter Killer Missile, Storm Bolter, Whirlwind Vengeance Launcher Whirlwind [145pts]: Armoured Tracks, Hunter Killer Missile, Storm Bolter, Whirlwind Vengeance Launcher + Allied Units + Callidus Assassin [90pts]: Neural shredder, Phase sword and poison blades ++ Total: [2,000pts] ++ Created with BattleScribe (https://battlescribe.net) Apokalypsi 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apokalypsi Posted November 13, 2023 Share Posted November 13, 2023 Excited to hear how it goes. Why did you choose not to run Bjorn for double vect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted November 13, 2023 Author Share Posted November 13, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Apokalypsi said: Excited to hear how it goes. Why did you choose not to run Bjorn for double vect? They changed how vect and free CP strats work during last update. IMO 2 doesnt have same impact anymore Murderfang is a premiere distraction carnifex and if he makes melee can ruin the day for opponent. On my team i am the sacrifice army. my job is remove scary armies and bad maps from the rotation and grind whatever points i can. My team won round 1 and I had GK I predicted 9-11 score bc marines v 2+ saves with armor of contempt are not reliable. Won the game 11-9 and murderfang grabbed a terminator plus librarian with sigil of exigence with first activation then piled in and activated again to kill 3 paladins (they failed BS and didnt score as a result) and forced my opp to divert killing power to remove murderfang or lose even more. The redemptor on the other side of the map was happy to avoid vortex of doom and stomped draigo and 5 termies into dust over 2 rounds of battle while standing on an objective with WW next to him. Was a huge swing bc it got me tons of primary (5 for middle mission) and lost him the same due to BS Edited November 13, 2023 by TiguriusX Apokalypsi and jpwyrm 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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