Helias_Tancred Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 Subject line says it all. This is something I've been considering over the last couple days? I was thinking of trying my hand at some writing and was considering the what-ifs of a space marine that was also a perpetual. Thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381621-could-an-astartes-be-a-perpetual/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 I don't see why not, thou I don't know of any cannon marine perpetuals Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381621-could-an-astartes-be-a-perpetual/#findComment-6002416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 (edited) As I understand it, some Perpetuals were born that way, others were made? If born that way, it would be more of a case of a Perpetual becoming a Marine. But I'm not sure that would be possible... wouldn't the trauma of being made into a Marine heal immediately? Wouldn't any implants be rejected? A Marine could be the base material for creating a 'made' Perpetual, I guess? Similar to Vulkan in many ways? Edited November 14, 2023 by Lysimachus Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381621-could-an-astartes-be-a-perpetual/#findComment-6002427 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanicus Tech-Support Posted November 14, 2023 Share Posted November 14, 2023 There was Anval Thawn who originally was a Grey knight perpetual, but having looked up his name (as I wasn't familiar with the most up to date info) it seems he hasn't been mentioned since 7th and him being a perpetual may have been silently retconned away N1SB 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381621-could-an-astartes-be-a-perpetual/#findComment-6002450 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Isn’t vulkan a perpetual? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381621-could-an-astartes-be-a-perpetual/#findComment-6002494 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 19 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: Isn’t vulkan a perpetual? Yes But primarchs are not astartes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381621-could-an-astartes-be-a-perpetual/#findComment-6002495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Antipodes Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 14 minutes ago, Emperor Ming said: Yes But primarchs are not astartes True, but if any Astartes line were to produce Perpetuals I would think the Salamanders or one of their successors would be the logical choice. I could see it being part of the Cursed Founding that produced the Lamenters, Black Dragons, etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381621-could-an-astartes-be-a-perpetual/#findComment-6002498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helias_Tancred Posted November 15, 2023 Author Share Posted November 15, 2023 He'd be a Black Templar. Again, I'm still trying to sort this out in my head .... good points all, thanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381621-could-an-astartes-be-a-perpetual/#findComment-6002505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormwoods Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Yes, but only via cannibalism, Revenant Legion style. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381621-could-an-astartes-be-a-perpetual/#findComment-6002522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Well there's always the lore in Siege of Terra, Book IV: Saturnine, to work with how you may. John Grammaticus meets with a female Perpetual. She says that she is the Mother of the Primarchs, that the Emperor created All the Primarchs as Artificial Perpetuals using both of their DNA. She wasn't pleased with the outcome and it was her abilities that were used to scatter the Primarchs. Karhedron, Helias_Tancred and Cenobite Terminator 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381621-could-an-astartes-be-a-perpetual/#findComment-6002572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 Astartes screen aspirants for genetic compatibility. Whether a natural born perpetual would pass that genetic screening is a big question mark at this point. Helias_Tancred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381621-could-an-astartes-be-a-perpetual/#findComment-6002581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted November 15, 2023 Share Posted November 15, 2023 16 minutes ago, Karhedron said: Astartes screen aspirants for genetic compatibility. Whether a natural born perpetual would pass that genetic screening is a big question mark at this point. If you want to get around questions like this, you could say this perpetual was part of the ultima founding, where there was no screening, everyone selected there was press ganged randomly. Basically showing you don't need the best of the best, it can be anyone Cenobite Terminator and Helias_Tancred 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381621-could-an-astartes-be-a-perpetual/#findComment-6002588 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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