Borky Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 It looks like the Indexes needing updates for leader clarifications have been updated quietly! I'm quite looking forward to digging into these to see what new interesting interactions exist.Blood AngelsDark AngelsDeathwatchSpace Wolves Cactus and Interrogator Stobz 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381845-updates-to-blood-angels-dark-angels-deathwatch-and-space-wolves-indexes/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Low effort updates but they’ll get the job done for now WrathOfTheLion and Karhedron 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381845-updates-to-blood-angels-dark-angels-deathwatch-and-space-wolves-indexes/#findComment-6007782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Is there not a commentary that details what's changed? Disappointing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381845-updates-to-blood-angels-dark-angels-deathwatch-and-space-wolves-indexes/#findComment-6007790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadEdric Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 So Aggressors in Killteams still hit on a 4+ with their fists. Tome of E(alphabet) still gives reroll wounds on the second target. Ah.. I see the DW change, they added characters that can lead Sternguard units to the Vet and Proteus squads. Borky 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381845-updates-to-blood-angels-dark-angels-deathwatch-and-space-wolves-indexes/#findComment-6007792 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borky Posted December 6, 2023 Author Share Posted December 6, 2023 52 minutes ago, MadEdric said: So Aggressors in Killteams still hit on a 4+ with their fists. Tome of E(alphabet) still gives reroll wounds on the second target. Ah.. I see the DW change, they added characters that can lead Sternguard units to the Vet and Proteus squads. I am quite intrigued by Apothecaries attached to both to be honest! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381845-updates-to-blood-angels-dark-angels-deathwatch-and-space-wolves-indexes/#findComment-6007815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wispy Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Still with this heirloom weapon bull:cuss:. MadEdric, Dark Legionnare and Cenobite Terminator 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381845-updates-to-blood-angels-dark-angels-deathwatch-and-space-wolves-indexes/#findComment-6007831 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Unique heroes like Azreal and Dante could properlly join units relesed in codex. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381845-updates-to-blood-angels-dark-angels-deathwatch-and-space-wolves-indexes/#findComment-6007939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orange Knight Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 20 hours ago, Blindhamster said: Low effort updates but they’ll get the job done for now I think Mephiston not being able to join Bladeguard or perhaps a Hero Squad is a big omission. As I mentioned in another topic, I speak on behalf of a friend who plays Blood Angels, but I agree with his sentiments. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381845-updates-to-blood-angels-dark-angels-deathwatch-and-space-wolves-indexes/#findComment-6008018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Orange Knight said: I think Mephiston not being able to join Bladeguard or perhaps a Hero Squad is a big omission. As I mentioned in another topic, I speak on behalf of a friend who plays Blood Angels, but I agree with his sentiments. Problem with company heroes, is they're captain/lieutenant only, and that makes sense for the concept of the unit. They're literally the dudes from a given company that act as advisors to the captain as well as bodyguards. I think mephiston actually should just straight up be a lone operative, based on his lore he isn't really one that tends to be part of units as even other blood angels are nervous around him. Instead he should have just had fight first himself and lone operative (that could be explained as psychic shield so that ranged attacks are technically just bouncing off him). Tyriks, Doctor Perils, TheMawr and 3 others 3 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381845-updates-to-blood-angels-dark-angels-deathwatch-and-space-wolves-indexes/#findComment-6008059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 14 hours ago, Blindhamster said: Problem with company heroes, is they're captain/lieutenant only, and that makes sense for the concept of the unit. They're literally the dudes from a given company that act as advisors to the captain as well as bodyguards. I think mephiston actually should just straight up be a lone operative, based on his lore he isn't really one that tends to be part of units as even other blood angels are nervous around him. Instead he should have just had fight first himself and lone operative (that could be explained as psychic shield so that ranged attacks are technically just bouncing off him). Agree. IIRC in 5th he once had a monster statline and can't join infantry units. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381845-updates-to-blood-angels-dark-angels-deathwatch-and-space-wolves-indexes/#findComment-6008185 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Legionnare Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 6 hours ago, Tokugawa said: Agree. IIRC in 5th he once had a monster statline and can't join infantry units. Yeah. He was a "Demon Prince, lite" The same codex as Land Raiders fired out of ships in orbit. (Had deep strike) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381845-updates-to-blood-angels-dark-angels-deathwatch-and-space-wolves-indexes/#findComment-6008235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhavien Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/8/2023 at 12:34 PM, Dark Legionnare said: Yeah. He was a "Demon Prince, lite" The same codex as Land Raiders fired out of ships in orbit. (Had deep strike) I'm pretty sure you mean dropped off by thunderhawk carriers which even had a model? As far as I remember the lore was, that BA have so many Land Raiders in their arsenal, that they were willing to take the risk. Oh and Mephiston at one point basically had the statline of a vampire lord from WHFB because that's what he basically is, a vampire lord. LSM, Metzombie, tzeentch9 and 3 others 3 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381845-updates-to-blood-angels-dark-angels-deathwatch-and-space-wolves-indexes/#findComment-6008567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Legionnare Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, Rhavien said: I'm pretty sure you mean dropped off by thunderhawk carriers which even had a model? As far as I remember the lore was, that BA have so many Land Raiders in their arsenal, that they were willing to take the risk. Oh and Mephiston at one point basically had the statline of a vampire lord from WHFB because that's what he basically is, a vampire lord. Yes. That was the logic in the lore of how that book was written. But since you weren't bringing or paying points for a very expensive thunderhawk model to the game we always joked they were pushed out the bay doors or drop pod chutes of strike cruisers in orbit. Edited December 10, 2023 by Dark Legionnare Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381845-updates-to-blood-angels-dark-angels-deathwatch-and-space-wolves-indexes/#findComment-6008651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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