grailkeeper Posted November 1 Share Posted November 1 I guess that leaked collection of short stories a month or two ago has to be fake if we haven't heard anything more about it. Ubiquitous1984 and Felix Antipodes 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSpirea Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 7 hours ago, grailkeeper said: I guess that leaked collection of short stories a month or two ago has to be fake if we haven't heard anything more about it. Are you talking about the SoT? Because that title now shows up listed in paperback editions skylerboodie 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074088 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lansalt Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 You mean this, right?https://www.reddit.com/r/Warhammer30k/comments/1eh0pmx/new_horus_heresy_book_leaked/ If it's fake, It's a very good fake. A lot of effort for such a niche subject. DukeLeto69, grailkeeper and cheywood 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 (edited) 16 hours ago, SkimaskMohawk said: I started reading the series in august after never making it past daemonlsayer when i was younger. I was really excited when i saw Josh Reynolds' name on the front of the fifth omnibus and was super confused by how out of place gotrek and Felix felt in road of skulls, to say nothing about the weird timeline. I couldn't believe it; this is an author I've continuously praised for maintaining continuity and being mindful of other authors work. A lot of that now makes sense given that he was barred from really referencing anything. But I still just don't like his gotrek and Felix dynamic, with both feeling like they've been stripped down and are kinda really uncharismatic. I went right back to skaven slayer after i was done, and Felix is straight up a cool character you enjoy seeing succeed. He's got a lot of agency, rolls with the bad luck, and never comes off as whiny or cowardly; you understand why gotrek likes him and chose him to be a rememberer. But ya, rant aside, josh really got done dirty by BL. A bunch of the Reynolds G&F stories, including the Charnel Congress novella (which brings back Mannfred von Carstein from the dead of Hel Fenn) and Road of Skulls are set in-between stories from Trollslayer, so the duo is still pretty shaky. Other stories happen after Giantslayer, along with the G&F mixed-author anthology and Josh's Serpent Queen (iirc). So Thanquol, Ulrika, Max and so forth aren't a thing in Road of Skulls yet. The most recent event from Trollslayer would be The Dark Beneath the World, where Felix acquires Karaghul, followed by Charnel Congress. Following Road of Skulls you got Berthold's Beard and then you get back to Trollslayer, and only then do they meet Kat for the first time. You can see what BL editorial was going for with these non-Slayer novels at first, but it came at the price of halting progression, removing close references, and making things very confusing for the reader. Edited November 2 by DarkChaplain Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 1 hour ago, DarkChaplain said: A bunch of the Reynolds G&F stories, including the Charnel Congress novella (which brings back Mannfred von Carstein from the dead of Hel Fenn) and Road of Skulls are set in-between stories from Trollslayer, so the duo is still pretty shaky. Other stories happen after Giantslayer, along with the G&F mixed-author anthology and Josh's Serpent Queen (iirc). So Thanquol, Ulrika, Max and so forth aren't a thing in Road of Skulls yet. The most recent event from Trollslayer would be The Dark Beneath the World, where Felix acquires Karaghul, followed by Charnel Congress. Following Road of Skulls you got Berthold's Beard and then you get back to Trollslayer, and only then do they meet Kat for the first time. You can see what BL editorial was going for with these non-Slayer novels at first, but it came at the price of halting progression, removing close references, and making things very confusing for the reader. Ya i kinda internalized the road of skulls as taking place mid troll slayer, as skaven slayer kinda goes right into chaos into dragon. So i wasn't hung up on the lack of references to other characters; it was still just the dynamic between the two. It's similar to how the characters interact in Geheimnisnacht in that they disagree with each other more, but Felix just feels really pouty and reluctant at all points. If it didn't reference his magic sword then it'd be easy to put road of skulls first chronologically, but I assume it was mandated in Reynolds brief. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Observant Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 (edited) Included in the The End and the Death Vol 1 MMPB, Era of Ruin Edited November 2 by Silent Observant Ubiquitous1984, Roomsky, Taliesin and 4 others 2 1 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074147 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 Interesting find. Makes you wonder when they will finally come out with it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
System Sound Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 I knew it! That thing was way too elaborate to be a internet point farm! And they called me mad... DarkChaplain and OpossumStrong 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074192 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkhorse0607 Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 49 minutes ago, System Sound said: I knew it! That thing was way too elaborate to be a internet point farm! And they called me mad... No, we call wecanhaveallthree mad, you're normal around here In all seriousness, what is BL waiting for? I feel like the sooner they announce this after the release of End and the Death, the more hype that will be behind it before folks have a chance to move on Roomsky, skylerboodie, DarkChaplain and 2 others 4 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074196 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ubiquitous1984 Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 29 minutes ago, darkhorse0607 said: No, we call wecanhaveallthree mad, you're normal around here In all seriousness, what is BL waiting for? I feel like the sooner they announce this after the release of End and the Death, the more hype that will be behind it before folks have a chance to move on They’re probably worried to release it after the limited edition fiasco. A lot of collectors will want this yet again to cap off their SoT collection. If BL are sensible they have held off releasing it so they could get an extra large print run (say, 5000+ copies) so they can satisfy demand and not anger customers. Either way I am very excited for this anthology! skylerboodie 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074201 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 The fact that its already listed in the paperback of vol.3 as being out though, suggests that is either imminent or has had some sort of delay. That copy in the shop was found there months ago by now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted November 2 Share Posted November 2 I did think that "The Carrion Lord of the Imperium" was a great title, and a very ADB title. If this is a fake, whoever faked it knows enough about BL authors and their individual styles that they should be given a chance to write for BL. LemartestheLost 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkhorse0607 Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 (edited) I'm very, very interested to see the marketing on it. My pet theory is that they're rebranding it to be out of the Siege because I can't imagine "Remember how we made such a huge deal that the Siege was over?! SURPRISE THERES MORE" Would end in anything other than mocking for them. Maybe that's why we haven't seen it It was only printed to be in the Siege in the one paperback novel lineup page so who knows I'm ready for everyone to mock BL again, it's been at least a week *edit, I wonder if they're saving this as the big reveal for the BL show in December, if they do it again Edited November 3 by darkhorse0607 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheywood Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 5 minutes ago, darkhorse0607 said: I'm very, very interested to see the marketing on it. My pet theory is that they're rebranding it to be out of the Siege because I can't imagine "Remember how we made such a huge deal that the Siege was over?! SURPRISE THERES MORE" Would end in anything other than mocking for them. Maybe that's why we haven't seen it It was only printed to be in the Siege in the one paperback novel lineup page so who knows I'm ready for everyone to mock BL again, it's been at least a week *edit, I wonder if they're saving this as the big reveal for the BL show in December, if they do it again If a Siege anthology is the big reveal then BL really is in trouble! I think there’s a pretty simple explanation. BL has delayed a lot of titles this year due to issues with scalpers, their warehouse issues, etc. Era of Ruin is one of the delayed books. As a result they’ve probably had proof copies floating around for a while now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Observant Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 16 minutes ago, darkhorse0607 said: I'm very, very interested to see the marketing on it. My pet theory is that they're rebranding it to be out of the Siege because I can't imagine "Remember how we made such a huge deal that the Siege was over?! SURPRISE THERES MORE" Would end in anything other than mocking for them. Maybe that's why we haven't seen it It was only printed to be in the Siege in the one paperback novel lineup page so who knows I'm ready for everyone to mock BL again, it's been at least a week *edit, I wonder if they're saving this as the big reveal for the BL show in December, if they do it again That’s what I was thinking as well. The December preview will have this as the big reveal, which may or may not push back the scouring series announcement “the scouring can’t start cause the siege is still going” Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
System Sound Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 So with the anthology being real, it's safe to say that the Scouring is in planning (ha ha BL planning...), would make sense why some authors haven't released much since their siege entries? skylerboodie 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 I wonder if whatever they announce will follow the usual BL pattern of a strong first book and then varying levels of dross. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074240 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkhorse0607 Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 6 hours ago, System Sound said: So with the anthology being real, it's safe to say that the Scouring is in planning (ha ha BL planning...), would make sense why some authors haven't released much since their siege entries? It does make me wonder who is going to get the first book? I think Wraight would be a really solid choice and would probably be my pick Seeing ADB return from the shadows would also be great but I would riot if it wasn't for Black Legion 3, plus I feel like (and this is just my imo) he really excels at more focused, character driven stuff over the grand scale which the first book would have to be I dunno System Sound, cheywood and Dalmyth 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
System Sound Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 2 hours ago, darkhorse0607 said: It does make me wonder who is going to get the first book? I think Wraight would be a really solid choice and would probably be my pick Seeing ADB return from the shadows would also be great but I would riot if it wasn't for Black Legion 3, plus I feel like (and this is just my imo) he really excels at more focused, character driven stuff over the grand scale which the first book would have to be I dunno Whoever and whatever they writte I hope they don't make it a series again. Just let it be a bunch of stories told by multiple authors. BL doesn't know and can't do a proper multi author series right... Jareddm and darkhorse0607 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074253 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 8 hours ago, System Sound said: So with the anthology being real, it's safe to say that the Scouring is in planning (ha ha BL planning...), would make sense why some authors haven't released much since their siege entries? It certainly would explain why we have seen so very little ( or nothing actually) from Wraight or Haley in particular, usually prolific authors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074255 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Observant Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 Valrak, has mentioned he’s heard the first (1-3) (I can’t remember the exact) on the scouring are in various stages of completeness Ubiquitous1984 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSpirea Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 (edited) Dawn of Fire 9 - Guy Haley (9781804078297) (translated from German, date May 2025) The first phase of the Indomitus Crusade is coming to an end. Large parts of the Imperium Sanctus are temporarily back under Imperial control, and yet war is raging on all fronts. The Primarch Roboute Guilliman is still trying to reach and save the Imperium Nihilus through the Great Rift when news of a renewed attack by the enemies of humanity reaches him. Leontus July 2025 SoT Epilogue - various (9781800262591) (translated from German, date June 2025) The tragic epilogue to Siege of Terra After the decisive battle between another son and another father - Horus Lupercal and the Emperor of Mankind - humanity teeters on the brink of the abyss. The scars of the conflict have forever changed the fate of humanity, and their wounds will never truly heal, ushering in an age of decay for the Imperium. A collection of stories that brings many expanding storylines to their conclusion. Soldiers of the Imperium, Lyons+Abert+Fischer (January 2025) Gotrek and Maleneth: The Omnibus, Hinks+MacNiven (February 2025) Edited November 3 by theSpirea cheywood, System Sound, Taliesin and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074266 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Observant Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 Based on the above, probably Era of Ruin (epilogue) and Dawn of Fire 9 tba for the preview Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkhorse0607 Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 (edited) "The first phase of the Indomitus Crusade is coming to an end." I wonder if they're going to do another series for the latter part of the Crusade. Or leave it open to just tell stories in (please. do this.) Dawn of Fire 2. The Firing Edited November 3 by darkhorse0607 Silent Observant 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074273 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jareddm Posted November 3 Share Posted November 3 25 minutes ago, darkhorse0607 said: "The first phase of the Indomitus Crusade is coming to an end." I wonder if they're going to do another series for the latter part of the Crusade. Or leave it open to just tell stories in (please. do this.) Dawn of Fire 2. The Firing The next phase is Dark Imperium, and that's already written. I imagine any further development would be through campaigns/White Dwarves first. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/381877-upcoming-bl-stuff-2024/page/55/#findComment-6074278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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