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[darkhorse0607]

40 minutes ago, Jareddm said:

The next phase is Dark Imperium, and that's already written. I imagine any further development would be through campaigns/White Dwarves first.

 

 

By and large, Dawn of Fire hasn't been a Guilliman story (with apparently the exception of the last one and some in the first), it's been more about what else is happening

 

Plus, with the rewrite, Dark Imperium happens before Guilliman even goes Nihilus/Baal, so there's that whole section to explore as well.

 

I guess Guilliman's adventure could be "phase 2" but that doesn't really involve the majority of the Crusade, just his adventures in Ultramar

 

Which come to think about it, this whole thing is kind of getting wonky, because apparently Guilliman goes to push through the Rift in book 9? But then turns around and goes to Raukos and then to Ultramar? Or, book 9 is set after Dark Imperium

 

 

Edited November 3 by darkhorse0607

[OpossumStrong]

Leontus coming next week.

 

 

Edited November 3 by OpossumStrong

[DarkChaplain]

...now I've seen it all: A WarCom next week previous that ONLY had a single Black Library book coming up.

 

Though I had to manually change the WarCom region to US/CA because they once again failed to update the UK site and my email newsletter link went 404. They're a british company, right? How about actually updating your UK site, then?

 

  

20 minutes ago, darkhorse0607 said:

Which come to think about it, this whole thing is kind of getting wonky, because apparently Guilliman goes to push through the Rift in book 9? But then turns around and goes to Raukos and then to Ultramar? Or, book 9 is set after Dark Imperium

 

He won't get to Nihilus here. A few books back, he sent Fabian to Nihilus, and he only returns to Guilliman with news of what's actually happening over there, in Godblight, which ends with Guilliman's plans to head over, and leads into Devastation of Baal eventually.

 

We're more likely to see something relating Calgar vs Abaddon here, at the Nachmund Gauntlet, which is supposedly the major stable route through, and again a few books ago, he's seen Calgar off to go there, and by Dark Imperium, he's back on Macragge and already Primaris (which is a result of him getting his bum whooped by Abaddon).

Edited November 3 by DarkChaplain

[darkhorse0607]

15 minutes ago, DarkChaplain said:

Though I had to manually change the WarCom region to US/CA because they once again failed to update the UK site and my email newsletter link went 404. They're a british company, right? How about actually updating your UK site, then?

 

Which is ironic because normally I (US based) have to switch it to the UK version because the articles never work on the North America site

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We're more likely to see something relating Calgar vs Abaddon here, at the Nachmund Gauntlet, which is supposedly the major stable route through, and again a few books ago, he's seen Calgar off to go there, and by Dark Imperium, he's back on Macragge and already Primaris (which is a result of him getting his bum whooped by Abaddon).

 

I'll save more of my ranting for when we know I suppose. It'll be interesting if that is basically the big fight of the last novel considering the blurb is mostly about Guilliman, who isn't really involved in Vigilus unless they change it, or they just mention Calgar vs Abbadon off-screen. Who knows, hopefully, we will see early next month

Edited November 3 by darkhorse0607

[cheywood]

I guess special editions are now limited editions because words just don’t mean anything anymore. How very on brand for 40k. 

[theSpirea]

4 minutes ago, cheywood said:

I guess special editions are now limited editions because words just don’t mean anything anymore. How very on brand for 40k. 

I don't bother using SE/LE anymore if even BL can't do it right. This is not the first time they completely ignore their own terminology.

[Lord Nord in Gravis Armour]

1 hour ago, darkhorse0607 said:

 

 

By and large, Dawn of Fire hasn't been a Guilliman story (with apparently the exception of the last one and some in the first), it's been more about what else is happening

 

Plus, with the rewrite, Dark Imperium happens before Guilliman even goes Nihilus/Baal, so there's that whole section to explore as well.

 

I guess Guilliman's adventure could be "phase 2" but that doesn't really involve the majority of the Crusade, just his adventures in Ultramar

 

Which come to think about it, this whole thing is kind of getting wonky, because apparently Guilliman goes to push through the Rift in book 9? But then turns around and goes to Raukos and then to Ultramar? Or, book 9 is set after Dark Imperium

 

 

 

It should still be set before, if their blurb is accurate - they mention the first phase of the Indomitus Crusade "coming to an end" and that end is what was shown at the beginning of Dark Imperium with the attack on Raukos and the formal ceremony thereafter. The subsequent Plague War events took a couple of months at least, so unless they do some kind of timeskip partway through Book 9, it should all be set prior to the Dark Imperium trilogy.

 

Speaking of retcons, did I miss one somewhere regarding Calgar? Last I knew, he became Primaris before he went to Vigilus, well ahead of his duel with Abaddon.

[darkhorse0607]

49 minutes ago, Lord Nord in Gravis Armour said:

 

It should still be set before, if their blurb is accurate - they mention the first phase of the Indomitus Crusade "coming to an end" and that end is what was shown at the beginning of Dark Imperium with the attack on Raukos and the formal ceremony thereafter. The subsequent Plague War events took a couple of months at least, so unless they do some kind of timeskip partway through Book 9, it should all be set prior to the Dark Imperium trilogy.

 

Speaking of retcons, did I miss one somewhere regarding Calgar? Last I knew, he became Primaris before he went to Vigilus, well ahead of his duel with Abaddon.

 

 

I was re-digging through the Vigilus books after the conversation here (it's in Vigilus Defiant, 2018) where they talk about Calgar being the first to cross the Rubicon, and then he leads a campaign to Vigilus

 

So yes, unless they're changing something, or have already changed it in a book that I'm not familiar with, Calgar should be a Primaris when he goes to Vigilus/fights Abbadon

[Taliesin]

5 hours ago, Silent Observant said:

Based on the above, probably Era of Ruin (epilogue) and Dawn of Fire 9 tba for the preview 

 

Hopefully more than stuff we already know about.

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

I hope McNiel is writing Horus's Primarch book. It disturbs my calm that I don't have it. 

 

The SoT anthology looks real. Very cool. I hope BL announces it soon, even if the actual release isn't until next year. 

[Felix Antipodes]

12 hours ago, DarkChaplain said:

...now I've seen it all: A WarCom next week previous that ONLY had a single Black Library book coming up.

 

Though I had to manually change the WarCom region to US/CA because they once again failed to update the UK site and my email newsletter link went 404. They're a british company, right? How about actually updating your UK site, then?

 

  

 

He won't get to Nihilus here. A few books back, he sent Fabian to Nihilus, and he only returns to Guilliman with news of what's actually happening over there, in Godblight, which ends with Guilliman's plans to head over, and leads into Devastation of Baal eventually.

 

We're more likely to see something relating Calgar vs Abaddon here, at the Nachmund Gauntlet, which is supposedly the major stable route through, and again a few books ago, he's seen Calgar off to go there, and by Dark Imperium, he's back on Macragge and already Primaris (which is a result of him getting his bum whooped by Abaddon).

 

My first thought when I saw this week’s pre-order blurb on WarCom was “Now the majority knows what it’s like for those who only read the BL stuff instead of playing the games/building the models.”

Wasn’t happy that it is only the SE on its own and not the regular HB as well.  Maybe that’s their definition of SE vs LE?  SE is released solo, while a LE is a dual release with the HB/MMPB version?

[OpossumStrong]

1 hour ago, Felix Antipodes said:

 

My first thought when I saw this week’s pre-order blurb on WarCom was “Now the majority knows what it’s like for those who only read the BL stuff instead of playing the games/building the models.”

Wasn’t happy that it is only the SE on its own and not the regular HB as well.  Maybe that’s their definition of SE vs LE?  SE is released solo, while a LE is a dual release with the HB/MMPB version?

As far as I remember it was the opposite before SoT Warhawk, which they released simultaneously (LE and HB), before, the LE was the pre pre-order, 3-4 months before the HB release, and SE usually was alongside release, also they call SE, books that got re release as SE.

 

As for today I think you are right, LE usually come alongside HB.

Edited November 4 by OpossumStrong

[theSpirea]

3 hours ago, Felix Antipodes said:

 

My first thought when I saw this week’s pre-order blurb on WarCom was “Now the majority knows what it’s like for those who only read the BL stuff instead of playing the games/building the models.”

Wasn’t happy that it is only the SE on its own and not the regular HB as well.  Maybe that’s their definition of SE vs LE?  SE is released solo, while a LE is a dual release with the HB/MMPB version?

It's the other way around. That's the GW/BL definition: LE is released solo, while SE gets an ebook/hardback or paperback simultaneously.

They started messing it up with Warhawk because they completely botched it—retailers began selling the regular hardback before the LE was even on pre-order. People realized BL is basically sitting on the LEs, ready to go, but artificially postponing the release. After complaints, BL released the Warhawk LE (technically SE) along with the hardback and ebook, but they still called it an SE.

Even within their own articles, they use the terms interchangeably, but we know WH Community articles are often written by people who are completely clueless about the IP, especially on the BL side of the hobby.

The LE/SE definition was, back in the day, directly explained by GW. I guess they forgot.

[Ubiquitous1984]

Our BL preview usually happens in early December.  I wonder how many more books (if any) we can expect, other than the leaked books we now already know about?

[Taliesin]

Its hard to say because the last one was a big disappointment and the one before that was slower as well, but then the one before that had lots of news of releases all the way up to mid year.

[Bestkeptsecret]

https://www.fnac.com/a20978312/Warhammer-40-000-Cadavres-en-Sursis-Steve-Lyons

 

Can someone please confirm if this is a new release or a re-release of an old book? Releasing in January 2025.

 

https://www.fnac.com/a20981227/Embargo-Embargo-2-Dan-Abnett

 

Book by Dan Abnett releasing in March next year. Wonder what book it is going to be.

 

https://amzn.eu/d/2KMYE1m

 

Ravenor Omnibus re-releasing in English in April 2025 after being out of stock and overpriced for a long time. 

Edited November 5 by Bestkeptsecret

[LemartestheLost]

8 minutes ago, Bestkeptsecret said:

https://www.fnac.com/a20978312/Warhammer-40-000-Cadavres-en-Sursis-Steve-Lyons

 

Can someone please confirm if this is a new release or a re-release of an old book? Releasing in January 2025.

 

 

That title roughly translates to Corpses on Borrowed Time or, Dead Men Walking. It's definitely just a rerelease in French.

[Alpharius902]

44 minutes ago, Bestkeptsecret said:

https://www.fnac.com/a20981227/Embargo-Embargo-2-Dan-Abnett

 

Book by Dan Abnett releasing in March next year. Wonder what book it is going to be.

 

Interceptor City's standard release if I had to imagine, given that we never received an official date

[Roomsky]

If we're speculating on snippets of info, Amazon.ca also lists Legends of the Wolf: The Omnibus from Wraight in May. With no content listing, probably his Jarnhammer trilogy? I personally wouldn't mind his non-Jarnhammer 6th legion books be collected at some point as well.

Edited November 5 by Roomsky

[grailkeeper]

11 hours ago, Roomsky said:

If we're speculating on snippets of info, Amazon.ca also lists Legends of the Wolf: The Omnibus from Wraight in May. With no content listing, probably his Jarnhammer trilogy? I personally wouldn't mind his non-Jarnhammer 6th legion books be collected at some point as well.

 

according to waterstones its 800 pages long, and according to the same source the Helwinter Gate is 432 pages long, and Storm Caller is 320 so roughly two novels and a short story? Normally an omnibus would be 3 bu that 800 pages thing might be a place holder figure. 

Edited November 5 by grailkeeper

[byrd9999]

Maybe smaller text size to squish the trilogy into a cheaper omnibus?

[DarkChaplain]

2 hours ago, byrd9999 said:

Maybe smaller text size to squish the trilogy into a cheaper omnibus?

 

This is the answer. BL Omnibuses have a significantly smaller font size than their trade paperbacks / hardbacks. They used to be able to print 4 full novels in 1000 pages without issues. But that was at a time when they still had full novels rather than slashing 1-200 pages.

[theSpirea]

5 hours ago, grailkeeper said:

 

according to waterstones its 800 pages long, and according to the same source the Helwinter Gate is 432 pages long, and Storm Caller is 320 so roughly two novels and a short story? Normally an omnibus would be 3 bu that 800 pages thing might be a place holder figure. 

All three novels in that series are each approximately 110K words. The average BL omnibus has around 350 words per page. So, with a total word count of 330K for all three novels, an 800-900 page omnibus is within BL's standard range.

 

Hardback pages (source: my copies)

Blood of Asaheim 311

Stormcaller 318

Helwinter Gate 346

[Taliesin]

20 hours ago, Bestkeptsecret said:

https://www.fnac.com/a20978312/Warhammer-40-000-Cadavres-en-Sursis-Steve-Lyons

 

Can someone please confirm if this is a new release or a re-release of an old book? Releasing in January 2025.

 

https://www.fnac.com/a20981227/Embargo-Embargo-2-Dan-Abnett

 

Book by Dan Abnett releasing in March next year. Wonder what book it is going to be.

 

https://amzn.eu/d/2KMYE1m

 

Ravenor Omnibus re-releasing in English in April 2025 after being out of stock and overpriced for a long time. 

 

The Abnett book is an interesting one, you would think maybe Interceptor City but there is no reason for that to be listed under embargo as its already announced.

 

[DarkChaplain]

A bunch of books get listed as embargo'd, even known. This includes German language editions of stuff that's been out or announced for months, like previous Dawns of Fire