Upcoming BL Stuff 2024

[Krelious]

On 11/11/2024 at 6:38 AM, Nagashsnee said:

 

Dream bigger. To get a BL limited edition should be no easy feat that any mere mortal plebeian can even dream of completing.  It is a honour, NAY a privilege  that must be closely guarded least the unworthy accidently 'checks notes' buy a BL book. 

 

Thus to begin with prospective challengers must visit a GW store not located in their country of residence in person. There they must answer 3 riddles posed by the oldest gaming warhammer player present. If they answer all 3 correctly they will have to name the original name of 3 GW paints chosen by the store smelliest regular (several of these can be on file if he is not present). Once this hurdled is complete they will have to spend 3 days and 3 nights talking about their existing BL collection with full serial codes and tales of acquisition to be presented by memory on a book by book basis, if they run out of books before the dawn of the 4 day they fail this test.  If they have made it thus far they will be entered into a lottery which will determine who can enter the raffle that will select the people who will eligle to travel to Warhammer world and stand in the line that will lead to the arena where they will make their case to a board of people who did not get the last bl LE book on why they deserve the pleasure that the judges were denied thru the medium of interpretive dance.  The selected will then be bled and their collective vitae placed in the Blood Chalice of Kyme and upon its filling all will sip and swear ETERNAL FAITH to Jim Workshop and his 40.000 hammers before being given their book.

 

 

Or just you know print more and/or made to order.   FOMO got some of you thinking we are talking about the last drinking water on earth or something.  Its artificial scarcity, don't be mad at the scalpers, be mad at BL for steadily refusing to make any effort to MEET DEMAND. 

 

They dont have to release books on the same days as models. They dont have to pre print anything before it goes on sale ( i ordered a brilliant cubicle 7 warhammer rpg book 2-3 months in advance, it wasnt hard), they dont have to make LE anything, they can just call it a deluxe edition and print a second batch if the demand is there.  They CHOOSE to keep going on the same broken system and they do it cause its the easy path.  And fair dos, if they are hitting their targets and management doesn't believe its worth the cost. But its 100% on BL, 101%.  Scalpers are just making some of the easiest money they will ever make.

 

And i promise all of you, the answer is not having us consumers write fething essays on why we deserve to buy a bloody BL book. 

 

On 11/11/2024 at 6:38 AM, Nagashsnee said:

 

Dream bigger. To get a BL limited edition should be no easy feat that any mere mortal plebeian can even dream of completing.  It is a honour, NAY a privilege  that must be closely guarded least the unworthy accidently 'checks notes' buy a BL book. 

 

Thus to begin with prospective challengers must visit a GW store not located in their country of residence in person. There they must answer 3 riddles posed by the oldest gaming warhammer player present. If they answer all 3 correctly they will have to name the original name of 3 GW paints chosen by the store smelliest regular (several of these can be on file if he is not present). Once this hurdled is complete they will have to spend 3 days and 3 nights talking about their existing BL collection with full serial codes and tales of acquisition to be presented by memory on a book by book basis, if they run out of books before the dawn of the 4 day they fail this test.  If they have made it thus far they will be entered into a lottery which will determine who can enter the raffle that will select the people who will eligle to travel to Warhammer world and stand in the line that will lead to the arena where they will make their case to a board of people who did not get the last bl LE book on why they deserve the pleasure that the judges were denied thru the medium of interpretive dance.  The selected will then be bled and their collective vitae placed in the Blood Chalice of Kyme and upon its filling all will sip and swear ETERNAL FAITH to Jim Workshop and his 40.000 hammers before being given their book.

 

 

Or just you know print more and/or made to order.   FOMO got some of you thinking we are talking about the last drinking water on earth or something.  Its artificial scarcity, don't be mad at the scalpers, be mad at BL for steadily refusing to make any effort to MEET DEMAND. 

 

They dont have to release books on the same days as models. They dont have to pre print anything before it goes on sale ( i ordered a brilliant cubicle 7 warhammer rpg book 2-3 months in advance, it wasnt hard), they dont have to make LE anything, they can just call it a deluxe edition and print a second batch if the demand is there.  They CHOOSE to keep going on the same broken system and they do it cause its the easy path.  And fair dos, if they are hitting their targets and management doesn't believe its worth the cost. But its 100% on BL, 101%.  Scalpers are just making some of the easiest money they will ever make.

 

And i promise all of you, the answer is not having us consumers write fething essays on why we deserve to buy a bloody BL book. 

 

 

 

On 11/11/2024 at 6:38 AM, Nagashsnee said:

 

 

 

Well im just thinking logisically speaking im willing to bet that GW pays some company in china to have their book printers and binders ready to produce their products and they likely all use the same system in order to produce the limited editions. These binders also have to recieve a shipment of signed pages from the authors which they then attach to the book. in this certain circumstance of making them not Fomo, and made to order GW/BL would have to change their whole system of production and logistics to change when releasing one book. I'd imagine that most of the time they want simultaneous releases with limited editions and normal editions shipping at the same time so customers can read whatever copy they get and not fall behind on the lore. Exceptions to this apply.  I mean how would they execute this system where they expect to produce 2500 limited editions of a product and idk 50k hard backs, print them off then send them to distribution warehouses across the world, except in once instance the 2500 limited editions become made to order for something they expect to be scalped?  I'd imagine not only do they have to keep track of materials and times but also shipping weights, how do they then say okay this one product will get scalped so we will wait and see how many we need to produce... I would imagine this would produce a large problem for them to deal with. I mean this is assuming that GW is as stupid as you say and dont realize that made to order is a magic solution that they have never thought of.  I think GW/BL likes a smooth operation where all the products they make are all ordered at least a year in advance so its likely they have a system in space, scheduling and a budget for manufacturing and shipping their products as well as likely any quality assurance 

 

Probably something over 90% of limited edition releases are not scalped or botted so idk after say siege of Terra is done and whatever ADB limited edition books are released, the only other books I could see getting scalped are primarch novels or extremely popular characters. Since Vol 3 was released I have not noticed an instance of scalping on the GW website and basically every limited edition has been on there for generous periods of time before being sold out. 

 

When I said "maybe short blurb" it could easily have been a sentence or two and not a whole essay, just something easy that any warhammer fan would know. Ultimately I just like the idea of spit balling solutions instead of just insulting people's ideas and taking them out of context. I can remember a time where people had to answer math questions to be able to collect lottery winnings. 

 

Alternatively I could propose the scalping problem is actually due to certain fans being stupid with money and having obsessive tendencies which then attracted predators to the market where as long as certain Warhammer fans had too much money to spend the scalpers would know they can get away with charging 400-500% upmarks on products because ultimately people are paying that much for them.  Essentially its not GW or scalpers themselves where the blame lies but rather a subset of 40k fans who likely do not show up on time or forget to order a product and then instead offer a ludicrous sum of money to someone to buy a product, because they think money entitles them to get whatever they want without putting the work in or having a sense of punctuality. The scalping problem does not arise over night out of thin air because some people think they can rip off fans. It comes out because the demand for the scalpers, offering a service to a subset of people came first.  After that you then get the targeted scalping where demand exceeds the production. 

 

I In the past GW has tried and failed to prevent scalping by putting in a Queue system and im not sure if its reasonable or not for them to have the tools to test that system in terms of how bots could bypass it and overload the system while legitimate customers are prevented from getting in. I would imagine it would take a lot of effort, time, and man power to troubleshoot that system and make it fool proof or bot proof. 

[darkhorse0607]

Some new things announced this morning.

 

Wanted your Horus Primarch novel?

 

Well too bad, all you get is 20 art prints of Primarchs and a box

 

Also The Emperor's Gift is getting a Limited Edition, which is signed, which provides evidence that ADB is still alive

 

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/vxticy5n/coming-soon-from-black-library-gotrek-returns-alongside-the-grey-knights-and-the-primarchs/

 

They really need to pace themselves with all of these brand new and exciting releases, don't want them to get too tired from all the work

[theSpirea]

I'm not the biggest ADB fan but I might go for this one. It's one of the books that got my girlfriend into WH. And they finally announced the next Gotrek, even though the info about that novel has been in books for months.

 

Edited November 14 by theSpirea

[Nagashsnee]

The plot description for the Emperors gift is so bad and so off the mark and i am tempted to buy it and then argue a refund on the basis of false marketing. 

 

Like '. The Emperor’s Gift follows two aspirants as they are put through the intensive regime of psychic training to join the vaunted ranks of the 666th Chapter. ' Like the person who wrote that has never even been in the same room as the novel in question.  Its impressive they got the chapter number right. 

 

The AoS Gotrek book can never, will never, could never top skaven slayer.  Tho at this point he doesnt even look like Gotrek anymore. Wish BL would just make a AOS slayer series and leave the Corpse of Gotrek and Felix to rest if only for till the next round of re prints. 

 

And we get the Horus Primarch art before the actual book? Are they have someone re write it? Did they lose the draft? What is happening to the Horus book?

[grailkeeper]

1 hour ago, darkhorse0607 said:

 

 

Also The Emperor's Gift is getting a Limited Edition, which is signed, which provides evidence that ADB is still alive

 

 

It proves he was alive when he signed it. GW should release a picture of him with today's newspaper stating that he is being treated well by his captors working on a new book. 

[grailkeeper]

22 minutes ago, Nagashsnee said:

Wish BL would just make a AOS slayer series and leave the Corpse of Gotrek and Felix to rest if only for till the next round of re prints. 

 

"It is the 41st Millennium. For more than a hundred centuries Gotrek and Felix has sat immobile on the Golden Printer of Nottingham. He is the Master of the Black Library by the will of the editors , and master of a million worlds by the might of his inexhaustible reprints. He is a rotting carcass writhing invisibly with power from the Dark Age of Technology. He is the Carrion Lord of the book imprints for whom a thousand trees are sacrificed every day, so that he may never truly die."

Edited November 14 by grailkeeper

[darkhorse0607]

22 minutes ago, Nagashsnee said:

The plot description for the Emperors gift is so bad and so off the mark and i am tempted to buy it and then argue a refund on the basis of false marketing. 

 

Like '. The Emperor’s Gift follows two aspirants as they are put through the intensive regime of psychic training to join the vaunted ranks of the 666th Chapter. ' Like the person who wrote that has never even been in the same room as the novel in question.  Its impressive they got the chapter number right. 

 

The AoS Gotrek book can never, will never, could never top skaven slayer.  Tho at this point he doesnt even look like Gotrek anymore. Wish BL would just make a AOS slayer series and leave the Corpse of Gotrek and Felix to rest if only for till the next round of re prints. 

 

And we get the Horus Primarch art before the actual book? Are they have someone re write it? Did they lose the draft? What is happening to the Horus book?

 

Yeah in the past they've been bad about writing summaries for novels, but it's been passable (eh). But the description literally isn't what the book is about.

 

Which is weird because if they actually said 

 

Spoiler

It's the book where they fight Angron

the drive for buying it would he higher from folks that haven't read it yet

[LemartestheLost]

4 minutes ago, darkhorse0607 said:

 

Yeah in the past they've been bad about writing summaries for novels, but it's been passable (eh). But the description literally isn't what the book is about.

 

Which is weird because if they actually said 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

It's the book where they fight Angron

the drive for buying it would he higher from folks that haven't read it yet

 
I suspect they don’t really give too much of a damn, as this one probably will be scalped anyway.

[Malkydel]

2 hours ago, Nagashsnee said:

And we get the Horus Primarch art before the actual book? Are they have someone re write it? Did they lose the draft? What is happening to the Horus book?

That art, like literally all the other Primarch art prints, are the art that has been at the back of all the Siege LEs. So, not the book art.

[Felix Antipodes]

Since there are 20 prints, will there be two blank prints to represent the two lost Primarchs? 

 

With this announcement, can we infer there won’t be the usual BL December preview?

[wecanhaveallthree]

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the only writing ADB has done in the last few years is signing his name on LEs

 

Unfathomably based. That's what real reclining on your laurels looks like, people. Everything else is amateur hour. 

 

Also allow me to add my raised voice to WHERE IS THE HORUS BOOK. That McNeill hasn't been immediately hunted down and imprisoned in the word pits is a bad omen, fraters...

[Silent Observant]

2 hours ago, Felix Antipodes said:

Since there are 20 prints, will there be two blank prints to represent the two lost Primarchs? 

 

With this announcement, can we infer there won’t be the usual BL December preview?

Read the article and didn’t see anything to indicate there would not be a preview. Simply some more announcements  of books likely to be released next year or sooner. We should know probably in 2-3 weeks

Edited November 15 by Silent Observant

[Nagashsnee]

15 hours ago, Malkydel said:

That art, like literally all the other Primarch art prints, are the art that has been at the back of all the Siege LEs. So, not the book art.

I phrased that poorly, my astonishment is that they are releasing art sets of the primarchs as a series, before finishing the actual primarch series. This would have made total sense to drop alongside  the final primarch book, to both complement and celebrate the completion of the series.

 

 

[Taliesin]

From which we can probably deduce that that Horus book is not coming anytime soon.

[System Sound]

2 hours ago, Taliesin said:

From which we can probably deduce that that Horus book is not coming anytime soon.

Or at all...

[darkhorse0607]

54 minutes ago, System Sound said:

Or at all...

 

I wonder if in a year or two they're going to get asked about it on social media and the media person will respond with

 

"Well you've read the Horus Heresy right?!"

 

Because he got so much screen time there (this is sarcastic please don't respectfully disagree me)

[Bestkeptsecret]

The last preview of the year has been announced to take place on November 22nd, next week Friday. The "Black Library" logo was missing from the preview expectations in the short video appearing on the WarCom page.

 

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/videos/obs3rpib/join-us-for-the-warhammer-preview-show-world-championships-of-warhammer/

Edited November 15 by Bestkeptsecret

[cheywood]

27 minutes ago, Bestkeptsecret said:

The last preview of the year has been announced to take place on November 22nd, next week Friday. The "Black Library" logo was missing from the preview expectations in the short video appearing on the WarCom page.

 

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/videos/obs3rpib/join-us-for-the-warhammer-preview-show-world-championships-of-warhammer/

Who knows at this point. It could very well have been cancelled, or they could view the BL preview as different from the model previews and still have it.

Edited November 15 by cheywood

[Silent Observant]

Alternative is that they include the book previews in the model stream, which they have done in past although rarely. Could also just be the last model preview, but who knows at GW at this point. 

[darkhorse0607]

49 minutes ago, cheywood said:

Who knows at this point. It could very well have been cancelled, or they could view the BL preview as different from the model previews and still have it.

 

That's what they've done in the past iirc. Last November they also had a model/game preview and it was supposed to be the last big one of the year, and then they still had the BL one

[Kelborn]

I'm surprised that we don't have a dedicated thread for the recent Votann novel.
Both versions aren't available anymore so someone must had the opportunity to read it or am I too early? Sadly missed the release but I'm very curious about it.

[theSpirea]

1 hour ago, Kelborn said:

I'm surprised that we don't have a dedicated thread for the recent Votann novel.
Both versions aren't available anymore so someone must had the opportunity to read it or am I too early? Sadly missed the release but I'm very curious about it.

It's not out yet. It's coming out tomorrow

[Kelborn]

For real?

Do they upload unreleased books on their page now?

If so, I wasn't aware. Thought it had already been released and sold out.

 

Well then, seems like a got a appointment, tomorrow. :D

 

Thanks for clarifying! 

[Silent Observant]

4 minutes ago, Kelborn said:

For real?

Do they upload unreleased books on their page now?

If so, I wasn't aware. Thought it had already been released and sold out.

 

Well then, seems like a got a appointment, tomorrow. :D

 

Thanks for clarifying! 

It went on sale about 2~ weeks ago. There will be some available at your local GW shop and possibly games stores but it won’t be online unless they have extra copies, which they may or may not have 

Edited November 15 by Silent Observant

[Taliesin]

On 11/15/2024 at 5:36 PM, darkhorse0607 said:

 

That's what they've done in the past iirc. Last November they also had a model/game preview and it was supposed to be the last big one of the year, and then they still had the BL one

 

Hopefully you will turn out to be right. Because actually cancelling the December preview would pretty much be the final nail in the coffin of them doing anything from what they used to do in terms of previews and fanservice, and everything else has already been scaled down. I hope we get a preview but after the year BL has had, them even cancelling the preview would not even be a big shock anymore. On the other hand though, they have to have things to announce surely? Surely all this stuff about the Scouring has to be announced soon, or the Era of Ruin anthology, or anything they will have for the BL Celebration, a specialty book like Art of the Horus Heresy last year and First Founding before that etc. For me the main reason that I think there has to be a preview is because of what Valrak has been told and his warp whispers have now proven their validity ten times over,