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Well, looks like based off of today’s news that they’re likely won’t be a December preview and they’re rolling it into this coming weeks preview. For better or worse idk

 

as the black library logo is in the preview 

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I’ll probably pick up Elemental Council, it looks intriguing. I’d forgotten the mega editions came separate to normal editions and got excited when I saw Interceptor City, but I’m not getting that version. 

21 minutes ago, Silent Observant said:

Well, looks like based off of today’s news that they’re likely won’t be a December preview and they’re rolling it into this coming weeks preview. For better or worse idk

 

as the black library logo is in the preview 

My expectation is they’ll announce the scouring, one 40k book to accompany the yearly BL celebration miniature, and nothing else, but I hope I’m being overly pessimistic.

24 minutes ago, DarkChaplain said:

Elemental Council shown without the audiobook icon, but the text says it'll have one. We'll see. Wouldn't be the first time it's missing. Hopefully it won't be another Harrowmaster situation.

Noticed that. I'm looking forwards to the book so I'm hoping the text is correct and not the image

5 hours ago, Silent Observant said:

Well, looks like based off of today’s news that they’re likely won’t be a December preview and they’re rolling it into this coming weeks preview. For better or worse idk

 

as the black library logo is in the preview 

 

Thought the same thing when I saw that BL was on the logo. Will be interested to see what they show us.

19 hours ago, Kelborn said:

Is the new Tau novel by Noah Van Nguyen releasing this Saturday, the 23rd or on the 30th?


Yeah preorder 23rd. Release date should be 7th December, I’m pretty sure books are on the same 2 week preorder cycle as models are. 

We got a 20 second teaser, wow.

 

Looks like we might actually be getting a third Robbie MacNiven Carcharodons novel, at least there was a new artwork following on from special edition re-releases of the previous two. They only spoke about the two re-prints.

 

Shade of Khaine, standalone Maleneth novel. Gotrek & Maleneth omnibus "8 novels and short stories, ~1000 pages"

 

Hell's Last, new Minka Lesk novel.

 

Final Dawn of Fire novel was shown in limited edition, but not even mentioned by the hosts. "THE SILENT KING"!!!!

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57 minutes ago, DarkChaplain said:

We got a 20 second teaser, wow.

 

Looks like we might actually be getting a third Robbie MacNiven Carcharodons novel, at least there was a new artwork following on from special edition re-releases of the previous two. They only spoke about the two re-prints.

 

Shade of Khaine, standalone Maleneth novel. Gotrek & Maleneth omnibus "8 novels and short stories, ~1000 pages"

 

Hell's Last, new Minka Lesk novel.

 

Final Dawn of Fire novel was shown in limited edition, but not even mentioned by the hosts. "THE SILENT KING"!!!!

 

I knew I was going to be disappointed but holy moly that was bad. No Scouring, no HH anthology book, two Robbie MacNiven reprints and THE THIRD BOOK, IT’S HAPPENING, a new Guard novel, and DoF 9.


Somehow Haley will have to add the completely self contained new Necron arc, Guilliman re-entering stage left bc “Muh Primarch” and then wrap up the Kesh/traitor plotline all with a neat little bow that isn’t just “The Emperor awakes lol get wrecked chaos/xenos scrubs”. I have my doubts….

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Just now, darkhorse0607 said:

I could not be any more disappointed by this

You must be new to BL then...

 

12 minutes ago, DarkChaplain said:

Looks like we might actually be getting a third Robbie MacNiven Carcharodons novel, at least there was a new artwork following on from special edition re-releases of the previous two. They only spoke about the two re-prints.

"while a brand new adventure titled Void Exile will be coming soon. " that wording makes me doubt that it's a new Robbie book. Probably someone else writing carcharadons...

I mean going off the stream was terrible. They didn't mention the new Dawn of Fire aside the teaser. They didn't mention the title for the third Carcharadons novel, etc

 

The biggest news from this other than those two was that it's now confirmed that there's no December preview

 

Not even a BL celebration miniature like they do every year

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2 minutes ago, System Sound said:

You must be new to BL then...

 

"while a brand new adventure titled Void Exile will be coming soon. " that wording makes me doubt that it's a new Robbie book. Probably someone else writing carcharadons...


WarComm is just BAD at wording stuff so we’ll wait and see but if it is someone else, what a slap in the face to Robbie.

I've never been jazzed about Robbie's stuff, but I'm glad his fans are getting a capper to that series (if indeed it's by him.) Laughed that the article said Outer Dark was where the Sharks gave the Night Lords a run for their money in brutality, even though the Night Lords were the antagonists in Red Tithe (non a necessarily incorrect statement, just a very strange one.)

 

Personally always down for more Lesk. The series is Hill at his best and Shadow of the Eighth made me especially curious about where we're going next.

 

The Silent King. Huh? Like, I'm not mad about Necron rep, nor actually seeing the Silent King do something but... for the last book? Is Haley going to have room? Hand of Abaddon left quite a few explicitly Chaos-related threads to tie up. Someone's gonna get shafted in this.

I wonder if The Silent King will somehow attempt to "fix" the whole "met Sanguinius during the Heresy" plotpoint that the HH team somehow forgot all about.

 

I'll assume, though, that The Silent King, being, like, THE Necron guy, will be tied into the Cawl-Guilliman-situation, to get some vital help with the blackstone topic. After all, the whole pylon array on Cadia, too, was Necron in origin - they've stitched up the galaxy before. And looking at the regular cover on Warcom, yeah, that's Guilliman and Cawl on the cover along with the bloke.

 

It might also somehow tie into the Pariah Nexus arc. I have not much of an idea what's going on there because I can't be bothered to pay attention to the Warhammer Plus media or the swiftly sold-out campaign books, though.

 

I just have no idea what's gonna be happening with the whole

 



reforged Anathame plotline

 

So far, I was banking on the finale seeing Guilliman to Vigilus, but it looks rather unlikely now.

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Are they not even pretending that dawn of fire is a series? That it's suppose to have a over arching plot? That they have made vague attempts at the shards, hand of abadon, chaos plans. 

 

The plot synopsis reads like a totally different narrative thread. Guiliman, cawl, necrons, :cuss: do they have to do with dawn of fire?  Like is it just me? Does anyone else feel the silent king is just totally left field?

 

Like Haley and cawl so I am looking forward to it. But still.

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A resounding ‘meh’ on this announcement. I don’t especially mind the lack of a dedicated preview, but you gotta announce some bangers to compensate. Hard to tell from the trailer if this is all just celebration stuff or not.
 

 

Void Exile has me excited, provided it’s from Robbie, and I’m sure The Silent King will be enjoyable enough. Hopefully Hill brings his best work for the next Minka Lesk installment. I never know what to expect with him. 
 

I had no expectations, so I can't say I'm disappointed with the announced books, it’s actually more than I expected. It's the presentation that was an absolute disaster. A 20-second trailer, no author interviews, and no effort to even talk about the individual books? This is a new low. Leaving all the announcements for an article would have been better.

 

Now, onto the reveals. I’m happy to see Maleneth getting her own novel but both covers are among the worst Black Library has ever produced. Three completely different fonts on the same cover? Whoever is in charge of art direction needs to be fired. It also looks like the same person was responsible for the Votann's novel.

I’m happy to see Hill writing another Minka book, it's on my to-buy list. And I’m glad to see a reprint of Carcharodons. As for DoF, I have zero interest. Kyme and Collins have completely killed that series for me.

I guess it's appropriate that the final Dawn of Fire book is going to be called The Silent King, since when it comes to this series... the less said, the better.

 

I really wanted to like this story, but that was back when I assumed they actually had a story to tell. What we ended up with after the first book was more like the errata and spinoff novels attached to a series focused on the Indomitus Crusade rather than the series they promised they were going to tell about the Crusade itself.

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but that was back when I assumed they actually had a story to tell.

 

It is whack that they've tried to bottle the Horus Heresy lightning three times now and fallen apart every single time with each iteration getting worse in terms of organisation and cohesion. I do think Dawn of Fire was always going to have problems when the 'time skip' went from two hundred years and more-or-less a soft reset to just a few, but yeesh.

 

inb4 it's a total fake-out and the Silent King is actually the new, previously-unknown fifth Chaos God that the Powers have been planning on making all this time!!!!! 

Scratching my head.  When I first read the WarCom BL article I’m sure it started by mentioning the ‘upcoming December celebration’.  When I went back just now there is no mention of it.  Doesn’t bode well for the annual knees up.

 

As for the announced stuff, it was a bit of a glass half empty thing for me.  

A third Carcharodons novel? Great … if it’s by MacNiven.  Not so if by anyone else.

The final Dawn of War to wrap up the series’ loose ends … except it seems to highlight a new plot line with no mention of any others.

The new Lesk novel seems to be the only one without a downside.  Not sure about the new art book though - it will depend on how in-depth the coverage goes.  From the beginning or just recent stuff?  Will they honour the artists by name or will they remain nameless drones?  We may know their names, but outside of the old guard (Blanche, Smith, Kopinski, etc) they rarely get a mention.

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