A maniple and a half

[TheDreadfulSagittary]

Greetings!

 

I got my hands on two of the newly kitted Warhounds from a LI box, so I will be able to kick my Adeptus Titanicus project to an end.

Right now, I have a full Regia Maniple with an additional Warbringer for my traitor Fureans and have 3 Reavers, a Warlord and 4 Warhounds for my loyalist side.

 

I started to paint the Reavers as Crucius, but I'm not a talented painter, and white is a tricky colour (and also, got unsure on the way I took with them). My main question would be:

- What Maniple would the audience recommend to go with them?

- I also want an additional Demi-Maniple with another paint scheme (maybe Honorum? I really would like to try some red panels). Would it be worth bringing a half-battlegroup to play in the game?

[Lord_Borak]

It really depends what your style of play is. I love Ferrox maniples, but then I tend to be an 'in ya face' kinda player. You could have a Ferrox and an Axiom? Or a Venator and a Fortis/Perpetua?

 

As for the second Battlegroup. Its entirely up to you, rule of cool always wins. Just realise that you're handing your opponent a tasty 2 stategum points for taking a second Legio. 

[Tar Aldarion]

Goonhammer suggests to go for the larger engines with Crucius, because their larger reactors allow for more of the legio's heat management shenanigans. I would think that Warhounds might benefit from that just as much, but don't have actual experience with the legio... Anyway, since you've already started on the reavers, why not make something different of the Warhounds and maybe the Warlord? Think, Solaria? That's got at least a bit of red in it, and stipling the green panels might be a welcome change in painting after Crucius' more tedious white?

 

Fielding two legios is, like Borak says, not the most direct step you can take towards a won game. But it's probably also not an autowin for your opponent, so if you want to try...

[TheDreadfulSagittary]

 

On 12/15/2023 at 7:02 PM, Lord_Borak said:

It really depends what your style of play is. I love Ferrox maniples, but then I tend to be an 'in ya face' kinda player. You could have a Ferrox and an Axiom? Or a Venator and a Fortis/Perpetua?

 

As for the second Battlegroup. Its entirely up to you, rule of cool always wins. Just realise that you're handing your opponent a tasty 2 stategum points for taking a second Legio. 

 

Unfortunately I didn't had the chance to play, and that's one thing I would like to change for next year. That's why I'm building a loyalist force opposing my traitors. 

 

9 hours ago, Tar Aldarion said:

Goonhammer suggests to go for the larger engines with Crucius, because their larger reactors allow for more of the legio's heat management shenanigans. I would think that Warhounds might benefit from that just as much, but don't have actual experience with the legio... Anyway, since you've already started on the reavers, why not make something different of the Warhounds and maybe the Warlord? Think, Solaria? That's got at least a bit of red in it, and stipling the green panels might be a welcome change in painting after Crucius' more tedious white?

 

Fielding two legios is, like Borak says, not the most direct step you can take towards a won game. But it's probably also not an autowin for your opponent, so if you want to try...

 

I only painted two Reavers this far in Crucius colours, so there is still the option to change. 
I'm not sure on them anyway. Love the Legion, but painting white and the pattern is still something, with which I constantly struggle. Fureans was also a pain with so much yellow...

 

It could be an option, to turn the Warlord and Warhounds to a full alternative force... Maybe throw a Reaver in the lot...

[TheDreadfulSagittary]

I didn't want to start a new topic, but since my last post some things have changed. 

Unfortunately there is still nobody in my area who is interested in the game, which also contributed to the halt of my overall progress with my plans and titans. There was also a moment of despair, when my private life got a sad turn, and I was close to drop the whole thing... But now I'm starting to navigate myself back to my original plans - before I was distracted with silly ideas and then as my motivation dropped to zero.

 

After running some circles I decided to return to the idea of having two playable forces (one loyalist and one traitor). As I wrote earlier I have a fully painted and operational  Regia maniple for Legio Fureans with a 3 Knight strong Cerastus Lancer Banner as support. 

Opposing them right now I have a Firmus Light maniple for my Crucius with 3 Reavers and 2 Warhounds. 

 

I didn't think that I will have many games with them, and most of the time I will be running my traitors agains my loyalists with different players, so I would like to have a chance to somehow balance them out against each other... I think 1750-2000 points would be the maximal level of my engagements.

 

First question would be: should I get any other Titan for the Fureans maniple? Pointswise they seem fine, so it is more like a theoretical question, if you would suggest one more to have some variety or needed support for them.

 

Second question: what is your opinion on the Crucius side? Should I look for an other maniple, with other Titans? Any suggestion is welcome! I wanted to have a different take on them than my Fureans, but I still adore Warlords and Warhounds, so I'm open for any suggestion 

[Ulfast]

I got similiar problem. No one in my area is playing so my prio is on other games which is a shame, as I really like this game and the models.

[TheDreadfulSagittary]

On 10/21/2024 at 12:15 PM, Ulfast said:

I got similiar problem. No one in my area is playing so my prio is on other games which is a shame, as I really like this game and the models.

 

I hope that with two battlegroups at hand I will have the chance to show the game for the others, and maybe someone will come along later.

But still, I would like to have some input on my plans to have those small groups prepared 

[Mandragola]

Some thoughts on what to do then.

 

A Fureans Regia maniple is powerful. Regia is always quite strong as the soft warhounds can shelter in the Warlords' shields. Combined with the Fureans stratagem to fire again, they can let off a devastating round of shooting.

 

Melee is probably the best counter to this, as you bypass the Regia shield sharing. If you wanted a maniple of  comparable power I'd go for a Gryphonicus Ferrox, perhaps backed up by a second axiom maniple if points allow and you want some fire support. You could also potentially run a Mandatum maniple or leave the Warlord out entirely for a Venator or even a second Ferrox maniple.

 

Crucius isn't bad if you wanted to try and make a force to take on the Fureans more directly. I think you'd risk just being shot to bits though. Reavers really struggle to take Warlords on head to head, in my experience. Even if  they get the shields down Warlord armour can take a lot of punishment from a Reaver, but the Reaver can crumple when sunfury hits start ot land.

[TheDreadfulSagittary]

8 hours ago, Mandragola said:

Some thoughts on what to do then.

 

A Fureans Regia maniple is powerful. Regia is always quite strong as the soft warhounds can shelter in the Warlords' shields. Combined with the Fureans stratagem to fire again, they can let off a devastating round of shooting.

 

Melee is probably the best counter to this, as you bypass the Regia shield sharing. If you wanted a maniple of  comparable power I'd go for a Gryphonicus Ferrox, perhaps backed up by a second axiom maniple if points allow and you want some fire support. You could also potentially run a Mandatum maniple or leave the Warlord out entirely for a Venator or even a second Ferrox maniple.

 

Crucius isn't bad if you wanted to try and make a force to take on the Fureans more directly. I think you'd risk just being shot to bits though. Reavers really struggle to take Warlords on head to head, in my experience. Even if  they get the shields down Warlord armour can take a lot of punishment from a Reaver, but the Reaver can crumple when sunfury hits start ot land.

 

Thank you on your thoughts Mandragola! 

 

Crucius was my choice back when I started to build a second force, and I would like to stick with them. 

I also made some thoughts about what I have and what I could get and there is the old Axiom maniple, or even a Precept. I have a double Vulcano Warbringer lying around. Didn't like the model that much, but if it would help to step up against the Regia, then so be it  

 

Honestly, I only want to even out the two force if someone would be interested in the game to give him a try... 

Today I finished painting the two Warhounds, now on to the Warlord I go 

[Mandragola]

One of the great advantages of AT is that the models are very flexible in terms of different lists, especially if magnetised. Once you have some engines painted up you needn't ever field them in the same way twice, if you don't want to. So while I've provided an example of how you might organise your stuff, it's far from the only option.

 

Crucius is fine and will allow you to build your force in all kinds of different ways. You've already mentioned a couple of perfectly viable ones. That Fureans Regia remains a bit scary but Crucius would always have a chance.

[TheDreadfulSagittary]

On 10/31/2024 at 2:51 PM, Mandragola said:

One of the great advantages of AT is that the models are very flexible in terms of different lists, especially if magnetised. Once you have some engines painted up you needn't ever field them in the same way twice, if you don't want to. So while I've provided an example of how you might organise your stuff, it's far from the only option.

 

Crucius is fine and will allow you to build your force in all kinds of different ways. You've already mentioned a couple of perfectly viable ones. That Fureans Regia remains a bit scary but Crucius would always have a chance.

 

Thanks Mandragola, I greatly appreciate every help!

It is sometimes really hard to work around the (or any) game, when you are more of a collector than an actual player. There is unfortunately no real local player base, and the few who are interested in miniature gaming are always into other games than I like (and they also change the main games every now and then.

 

In the last year I really struggled how to approach the tiny titans that I like. But now I feel that there is some momentum, and I try to give the original concept a go.

Here are the 3 Titans I painted up the last week!

 

 

 

 

 

Definitely pleased with the results 

I still have an "old" (it means I painted it back in 2019) Reaver with chainfist+melta, and I will add another Reaver to the bunch... and maybe that Warbringer too...

And for the Fureans I will paint up the last unfinished Reaver for them, to have the option for smaller games.