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2 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Right lads, what are we up to?

 

I sort of assumed from your and Necro's posts you were both inclined to go the sea route. I've not seen anything from @Urauloth or @Mike Zulu to indicate a preference on their part. Amaras is basically on autopilot so he'll do whatever the rest of you want.

 

So I was taking that as a majority of those who have expressed an opinion, and so we'd move forwards with that plan, hence why I included it in the latest post.

 

However, if I'm wrong, it's no big problem to dial it back and alter your flight path... but I think it might be simplest to just go with it now, if people are happy doing so?

41 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

I sort of assumed from your and Necro's posts you were both inclined to go the sea route.

 

Yessir, that was the plan, I was just giving anyone else an opportunity for an alternative.

 

41 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

I've not seen anything from @Urauloth or @Mike Zulu to indicate a preference on their part. Amaras is basically on autopilot so he'll do whatever the rest of you want.

 

Okies.

 

41 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

So I was taking that as a majority of those who have expressed an opinion, and so we'd move forwards with that plan, hence why I included it in the latest post.

 

No, I dig.

 

41 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

However, if I'm wrong, it's no big problem to dial it back and alter your flight path... but I think it might be simplest to just go with it now, if people are happy doing so?

 

No, not at all, my only concern is we're effectively dropping over an unknown depth, with a five hour hike to shallows, then a stroll upriver. I was going to ask for the water depth IC, but expected someone else to post and ask these questions, hence my reticence.

 

Otherwise:

 

'The Codex Astartes does not support this action - but I am looking forward to it.'

- Gadriel. Sergeant, Ultramarines.

 

EDIT: Sploosh!

 

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8 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

my only concern is we're effectively dropping over an unknown depth, with a five hour hike to shallows, then a stroll upriver. I was going to ask for the water depth IC, but expected someone else to post and ask these questions, hence my reticence.

 

 

Sorry, you're absolutely right that this is info you would have had while planning. The waters on the moon are relatively shallow, definitely seas rather than oceans. Depth at drop off would be maybe 300m, gradually rising towards the Bazaar, so you aren't operating at levels where light isn't penetrating or pressure becomes a problem for your power armour. There are deeper areas, of course, but they are further out.

 

Movement will be as per rules for swimming, using Str rather than Ag (edit: actually, you can each choose between the two) but obviously you don't have to worry about Toughness test/Fatigue/sinking/drowning as you've already sunk and can basically walk along the bottom!
 

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For those interested on a quick calc:

 

300 metres equates to roughly 440 pounds of pressure per square inch.

 

To put that into perspective, hull crush depth of a WWII German U-boat was 280m. Armour breaches at this depth would be...inconvenient. :pirate:

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5 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

For those interested on a quick calc:

 

300 metres equates to roughly 440 pounds of pressure per square inch.

 

To put that into perspective, hull crush depth of a WWII German U-boat was 280m. Armour breaches at this depth would be...inconvenient. :pirate:

Remember this is 40K!

 

Where the Shuttle that brought us in has the aerodynamics of a Brick and  you want to bring in Real World Physics???

 

 

 

 

Considering atmospheric pressure is only 14.7 psi (at sea level), environmental seals don't typically have to hold much positive (gauge) pressure above that. I don't know if in the lore they really dive into the practical limits of what maximum pressure differential power armour seals can maintain, and I'm guessing they don't for good reason, but I would reckon that 95%+ of their use cases are just to maintain a positive atmospheric seal, or otherwise seal against the vacuum of space.

 

On the other hand this is the far, far science-fantasy future so we can obviously hand-wave it away and say it's trivial for them to maintain high pressure differentials at low temperatures like you would see 300m below sea level (this is the real bane of seals besides explosive decompression and hydrogen embrittlement). Also maintaining a low pressure seal feels comical to someone who regularly works with equipment that functions under thousands of pounds of pressure, but it is obviously of grave concern in particular areas.

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2 hours ago, Machine God said:

Remember this is 40K!

 

Where the Shuttle that brought us in has the aerodynamics of a Brick and  you want to bring in Real World Physics???

 

Dare you to take a dip, and take your helmet off.... :teehee:

 

1 hour ago, Necronaut said:

On the other hand this is the far, far science-fantasy future so we can obviously hand-wave it away...

 

Make like Brian Blessed, and dive? There's a mega-squid down here probably..!

 

Edited by Mazer Rackham

I figured 300m wasn't unreasonable, I think the record for free diving is 200+ m so an Astartes should be able to do better than that, especially in power armour?

 

But regardless of that, like all 40k tech, my stories are powered by hand-wavium and shouting bald men! :laugh:

 

Don't worry too much about the depth, I assume you are heading immediately inland anyway so it will get shallower and shallower? Once you get within a few km of the beach, it's down to 10m or less, so that shouldn't be any problem for your gear?

Ok, I will probably put in a quick update either late this evening or tomorrow to land the shuttle.

 

I know that is chronologically a little bit after whatever is happening with the strike team, but I also want to let the infiltration team keep moving forward with their bit too?

 

 

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What do we think, do we ask Facilitator Bouchard about mercenaries (Silver Serpented Eldar in particular) straight away, or do we start with some trade goods or other thing that is inline with our cover.

 

The latter would buy time for the offshore party to walk closer to shore, and might cement our cover better, but the longer we are here the more risk of things going pear-shaped I suspect.   

Enquiries about Mercenaries for trading within Eldar regions. You are from a Trading House or Rogue Trader family. 

 

Make small talk and ask about the Dark Eldar? 

 

Asterius is just there to be a Bodyguard and growl. 

 

 

 

 

6 hours ago, Trokair said:

What do we think, do we ask Facilitator Bouchard about mercenaries (Silver Serpented Eldar in particular) straight away, or do we start with some trade goods or other thing that is inline with our cover.

 

The latter would buy time for the offshore party to walk closer to shore, and might cement our cover better, but the longer we are here the more risk of things going pear-shaped I suspect.   

 

You never want to get directly to the point. I believe your instincts are right and that you will want to do a bit of window shopping (or perhaps actual shopping) before coming to the "real purpose" behind your visit.

I'm going to hold fire on posting anything for this week's update for a bit.

 

For the team at the Bazaar I need to know what Alda is going to say to Bouchard, and then we can go from there. (This is no problem, as I get that Tro is probably waiting for everyone to have a chance to give their opinions before he posts anything)

 

 

For the strike team, we still need posts/Ag tests from @Urauloth and @Mike Zulu

 

and although Amaras doesn't need to roll anything to dismount due to his jump pack, if @Xin Ceithan wants to post anything please do?

 

 

 

GM reminder:

Spoiler

Remember what we said at the start? If you are busy and don't have time to post in full, that's fine, we totally understand, but in that case please put a brief placeholder in and give us a quick overview of what your character is thinking/doing. One post like that in a week doesn't seem unreasonable?

 

If players are going a month or more without being involved in the game at all, I'm going to have to start thinking about doing what I did with Sobek's Bekkar and finding IC reasons for them not to be taking part... and for full disclosure, at this point in the game I'm honestly not sure what those reasons would be other than taking injuries which require them temporarily going into Sus-An coma?

 

Again, I hope that everyone agrees that is fair and reasonable? :thanks:

 

 

 

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I’m afraid it’s looking like my hobby time is  continuing to be rather limited and erratic for quite some time, so please don’t keep anyone waiting because of me :sad:

16 minutes ago, Xin Ceithan said:

I’m afraid it’s looking like my hobby time is  continuing to be rather limited and erratic for quite some time, so please don’t keep anyone waiting because of me :sad:

 

I warned you about installing an always-on flame system in the ducts of your hollow-volcano-lair, but:

 

'Oh no, it will be alright, Mazer, British Spies don't come here. I will have the intermittent one as it is cheaper. I want my shark tank!'

 

Now look what's happened. :pirate:

3 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said:

'Oh no, it will be alright, Mazer, British Spies don't come here. I will have the intermittent one as it is cheaper. I want my shark tank!'

 

Now look what's happened. :pirate:


Pffft…


There is no way I’d skip the Shark Tank.


I mean, I didn’t go the evil medical school to settle for something so bourgeois like a plastic tub with some ill-tempered perches… 

 

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to change the batteries on the shark’s nose mounted lasers again. :pirate:

18 minutes ago, Xin Ceithan said:

Now, if you’ll excuse me, I have to change the batteries on the shark’s nose mounted lasers again. :pirate:

 

Ah, so *thats* how you ended up with the claw hand and eye-trouble. :pirate:

10 hours ago, Lysimachus said:

For the team at the Bazaar I need to know what Alda is going to say to Bouchard, and then we can go from there. (This is no problem, as I get that Tro is probably waiting for everyone to have a chance to give their opinions before he posts anything)

 

 

In part, and I also plain simply got home way way to late yesterday to work and post the responce I had been planning on doing. Should come up a bit later tonight, let me find some food first. 

Perhaps Godfrey should ask Bouchard about the Biters? 

 

How do they control the Orks? Drugs, mind control or maybe surgery akin to Ogryn Boneheads? 

 

Impart how impressed he is with the effect of control etc. 

 

 

 

Lys, I am away for a fortnight from tomorrow. 

 

Not ideal timming given given were we are at, so auto pilot as needed, and perhaps Ikka/Moridyn can take the lead of the next part of the 'Trade Negotiations'.

Ok mate, no worries, thanks for letting me know. (If it is something nice, I hope you have a good time!)

 

If/when such a situation arises, maybe the group can discuss OOC what they want Godfrey to say, and then someone else can post it on your behalf? It just doesn't make sense that he is there to be a spokesman, and then have someone else do the talking?

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