Xenith Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 As we have seen he new plastic malcador for Auxilia, it makes sense that the legions could pilfer it. It's an ok tank, but I'm not sold on the rivets so will likely not get one. Looking at the legion rules also, they just seem...bad? Am I missing something? They cost more than a land raider, but can shoot at less due to weird gun positions and there's no transport capacity? They have a decent move, but if they use it they cannot fire everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarabando Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 they are pretty pants rules wise but narrative reasons trump all :D LameBeard, Marshal Mittens and Xenith 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJedi Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 I want one for the 1st Legion just because it's old tech that fought on Terra. Xenith and Marshal Mittens 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted January 19 Author Share Posted January 19 I'd thought about one as they're fast and a fast tank seems something that the alpha legion might be interested in, however in-game it isn't really that fast at all - I think dumping a load of terms somewhere awkward is more Alpha Legion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 6 hours ago, Xenith said: I'd thought about one as they're fast and a fast tank seems something that the alpha legion might be interested in, however in-game it isn't really that fast at all - I think dumping a load of terms somewhere awkward is more Alpha Legion.... 14" M is really fast for Heavy Support 13-13-12/5 quite well armed tank,for 245 pts in my opinion. Not awesome not terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Think of them as a slightly cheaper Kratos, with the Vanquisher cannon that's pretty much what they are. Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen11 Posted January 22 Share Posted January 22 On 1/20/2024 at 10:28 AM, No Foes Remain said: Think of them as a slightly cheaper Kratos, with the Vanquisher cannon that's pretty much what they are. Or you can just get Land Raider, cheaper, better armor, more firepower, better BS, has transport capacity...tbh don't really see what's design choice behind SA tanks in a way that they are inferior compared to Astartes, yet more expensive. Before with battlecanon being AP3 pie plate they kinda had a point, now with blast being AP4 is terrible enough(though, 2+ sargents can always tank plenty of shots) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted January 27 Share Posted January 27 One or more of the developers had an axe to grind against the legion malcador and have been making it varying degrees of unplayable since the last 1st ed faq :( Xenith 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 (edited) On 1/22/2024 at 11:10 AM, Fallen11 said: Or you can just get Land Raider That's what I mean, the Legion Proteus Carrier just seems better in every way, and is cheaper to boot, and is already 'upgraded' with lascannons. I was wondering what I was missing with the Malcador. It feels like it should be in the 160 - 180pts region. Edited January 29 by Xenith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 3 hours ago, Xenith said: That's what I mean, the Legion Proteus Carrier just seems better in every way, and is cheaper to boot, and is already 'upgraded' with lascannons. I was wondering what I was missing with the Malcador. It feels like it should be in the 160 - 180pts region. It's in the Legacies document, which they obviously don't want us to use because we pay a stupid tax for it like everything in there if we want to take something from it.. Xenith 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LameBeard Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) 46 minutes ago, No Foes Remain said: It's in the Legacies document, which they obviously don't want us to use because we pay a stupid tax for it like everything in there if we want to take something from it.. Except boxnauts! Even the developers love boxnauts! Edited January 29 by LameBeard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 1 minute ago, LameBeard said: Except boxnauts! Even the developers love boxnauts! Ignoring the multi melta being worse and more expensive than the gravis melta, that's pretty much the only good one. Gorgoff and LameBeard 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoVonAwesome Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 1/29/2024 at 12:30 PM, No Foes Remain said: Ignoring the multi melta being worse and more expensive than the gravis melta, that's pretty much the only good one. At Initiative 2 I'm pretty sure most are taking Mortis with Lascannons anyway. I know I am. Leave the multimelta to the contemptor that won't get swamped before it can start punching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttoVonAwesome Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 1/19/2024 at 6:58 AM, sarabando said: they are pretty pants rules wise but narrative reasons trump all :D Pants against marines. If Solar Aux become popular even as allies alot of things that weren't great become alot better just cuase the current meta is really heavy with marines. LameBeard 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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