Warhammer TV Broken Lance

[Xenith]

4 hours ago, MegaVolt87 said:

I feel like the rate of fire on the larger calibre gunpowder based weapons is too high? Looks fine on the smaller stubbers though. 

 

Don't forget it's space gunpowder (tm). 

[Etruscan]

20 hours ago, unrealchamp88 said:

Just watched it without audio whilst at work. It looks fan made to me, not something from a multi-million pound company. 

To be fair GW are not foremost an animation company and while I agree somewhat with your sentiment I don’t think we can compare their animation output with top tier movie or TV productions.

 

There’s room for improvement for sure and they definitely need more animations and more regularly but overall I have enjoyed the various animations apart from Blacktalon because Stormcast bore the hell

out of me.

 

[Cenobite Terminator]

I’m looking forward to watching this when it’s released.

[MegaVolt87]

12 hours ago, Etruscan said:

To be fair GW are not foremost an animation company and while I agree somewhat with your sentiment I don’t think we can compare their animation output with top tier movie or TV productions.

 

There’s room for improvement for sure and they definitely need more animations and more regularly but overall I have enjoyed the various animations apart from Blacktalon because Stormcast bore the hell

out of me.

 

 

I don't think thats a good excuse, they are just not budgeting enough to get good animators etc. They are running this dept on a shoe string budget and it shows. They would have been better off leaving the fans to do this quality on YT and not spend any money to output this quality from the company itself. Most ompanies leave fan content + animations alone because its free advertising. GW's official animation should be far exceeding the production quality of fan animations. 

[Domhnall]

I'm just happy there is something in return for my hard earned money, so yeah I'm looking forward to it being released. 

On the one hand, big massive war machines that walk on the battlefield would realistically be a bit slow and clunky, but on the other hand slow and clunky is dull and this is 40k! We've seen titans and massively large creatures move far faster than they should in other media, so that's the precedent set, but this is a trailer and I'll wait to see the series when it releases to get a proper feel for it, janky or not 

 

Based on the animations we've had, my personal opinion is that a lot of the animations here that were started as fan made, are pretty much going along as they were before being brought under the WH+ banner without much addition support/team from GW as a whole, pretty much contract work. I could be wrong, and without confirmation either way it will stay as personal opinion, but it could explain why the animations are few and far between, and the variety of quality given* because they're not being worked on full time. 

 

* - apart from the "in-house studio" (which isn't really in-house), which often has that "rough and ready" approach.

 

Also, in general, for me the animation quality doesn't necessarly bother me too much as some of my favourite animations aren't of the highest quality, but I do understand the feeling that the general quality should be better on average than fan made because we're paying for it. However a lot of time, especially currently, fan made is done by people who know what they are doing, are doing it in their own time, and don't have the budget/time constraints that's working for somebody has i.e. they haven't been told that they only have X amount of hours/money to spend on it.

If the quality of fan made isn't quite great, we generally give them more leeway because it's free for us. Bias? Definitely. Justified? Also yes 

 

 

[DemonGSides]

I'm fine with the monstrous war machines being plodding. I thought the dawn of war Gundam like sequences were horse:cuss:.

[theSpirea]

Looks pretty bad and cheap. Janky moves, slow-mo everywhere to extend 4 minutes worth of content into 10 minutes 10-minute-long episode. Even mobile games have better animations.

GW doesn't have (is willing to allocate) a budget for proper animation. I wish they stick to Hammer & Bolter style, at least that is watchable.

[Aarik]

Looks like a lower to mid(?) tier videogame in-engine cut scene to me.  Not particularly impressive, but doesn't stand out as awful either.

[OttoVonAwesome]

Sure gripe about the animation. Could be worse could be getting nothing. Or a crappy cartoon. Let's see any of you fire up blender and do better. Still looks better than 95% of the video games released in the last year. Good thing it has a banging soundtrack and none of you were gonna watch it anyway.

8 hours ago, theSpirea said:

Looks pretty bad and cheap. Janky moves, slow-mo everywhere to extend 4 minutes worth of content into 10 minutes 10-minute-long episode. Even mobile games have better animations.

GW doesn't have (is willing to allocate) a budget for proper animation. I wish they stick to Hammer & Bolter style, at least that is watchable.

Really? Hammer and Bolter is better? It looks like a flash animation that was drawn by me circa 1998. Show me a better looking mobile game. Janky moves? Get outta here lol. People acting like this was made by Amazon. Save your criticisms for the next 300 million dollar Marvel flop.

 

This is the first animation I'm actually stoked for since the Blood Angels movies and I don't remember any complaints about that one. It checks all the boxes. Grim. Check. Dark. Check. The opening line all the fog and greyness and desaturated colours that scene with the armiger getting dragged down by a horde of plaguebearers. 100% this is gonna slap. Thank god GW supports these smaller animation projects.

[Cenobite Terminator]

There’s not enough information to simply write it off at this point.

[Taliesin]

Definitely looking forward to this, Knights in action should be awesome, one of the most anticipated animations really this one.

[Lexington]

On 2/23/2024 at 5:36 PM, OttoVonAwesome said:

This is the first animation I'm actually stoked for since the Blood Angels movies and I don't remember any complaints about that one. It checks all the boxes.

 

Angels of Death? Oh, man, I could go on about everything that didn't work in that series (spoilers: damn near anything), and I feel like that's a fairly widely-shared opinion. In some sense, it was a perfect introduction to the parade of disappointment that W+ animations have been.

[Mogger351]

On 2/23/2024 at 11:36 PM, OttoVonAwesome said:

Sure gripe about the animation. Could be worse could be getting nothing. Or a crappy cartoon. Let's see any of you fire up blender and do better. Still looks better than 95% of the video games released in the last year. Good thing it has a banging soundtrack and none of you were gonna watch it anyway.

Really? Hammer and Bolter is better? It looks like a flash animation that was drawn by me circa 1998. Show me a better looking mobile game. Janky moves? Get outta here lol. People acting like this was made by Amazon. Save your criticisms for the next 300 million dollar Marvel flop.

 

This is the first animation I'm actually stoked for since the Blood Angels movies and I don't remember any complaints about that one. It checks all the boxes. Grim. Check. Dark. Check. The opening line all the fog and greyness and desaturated colours that scene with the armiger getting dragged down by a horde of plaguebearers. 100% this is gonna slap. Thank god GW supports these smaller animation projects.

The knights in freeblade, the 2016 mobile game, move better than the knights in this. They just really soft and doughy. I can't do better but I can see when others do.

 

There's been a lot of praise online for the fact they have a "very chaos" knight, but to me it's just a big plaguebearer. It doesn't look like a knight and seems jarring in the "let's all walk forwards in a big blob Marvel style"  line up.

[Focslain]

39 minutes ago, Mogger351 said:

The knights in freeblade, the 2016 mobile game, move better than the knights in this. They just really soft and doughy. I can't do better but I can see when others do.

 

There's been a lot of praise online for the fact they have a "very chaos" knight, but to me it's just a big plaguebearer. It doesn't look like a knight and seems jarring in the "let's all walk forwards in a big blob Marvel style"  line up.

You give Marvel too much credit, the army blob has been a thing in Hollywood large battle sequences for decades.

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

It looked good to me. I liked it, especially the music.

[loginomicon]

Honestly this is very disapointing for a company that has so much money. With all that money they could totally pay a studio to make something descent, the problem is that I don't know if that would be viable for them money wise. Almost all their animation are completely subpar mostly in part because they are done by people who have 0 experience in the industrie. They are just people who used to make warhammer fan animation for fun on Youtube. The other one are like the people who make pariah nexus or astartes which have a lot of talent but are probably understaffed or understand that making quality animation takes a lot of time (years). The guy who make Astartes is probably either not even close to making two 30 min episode or off and GW doesn't want to say anything. 

 

Even the painting, battlereport and lore segment are disapointing. What would it cost them to get somebody from the Eavymetal team on camera to actually paint it like the box art ? Battlereports, GW is actually the maker of the brand, they could one up every single battlereport youtuber by making crazy campaign or board to go with a release and create hype. Lore segment are super underwhelming since every loretuber has better content. 

 

The better thing to do at this point is simply just give amazon the right to make animation and other things and maybe we'll have something that's descent. For the rest simply just put it for free because this not worth paying for the it...

Edited February 26 by Tyriks
dont dodge the swear filter

[Fenriwolf]

When your trailer sends me back reminding the intro for Mechcommander, things aren't looking good. 

 

Ehm...Anyway, i'll say there's at least a piece of it that looks somewhat decent: the helverin bit at the start. Movement feels decently fluid and the fog + camera angle most likely aren't there without reason (way easier to hide stuff with low lighting and half your model hidden by generic zombies) 

 

The big knights bit on the other hand just dosn't cut it. And how they put the scene together doesn't help at all. 

Leaving aside everything else ( like the already mentioned clashing blobs ),for example I honestly can't get over the fact that the "lead" imperial knight is trying to graze the jaw of the leading chaos one instead of aiming for, i don't know...Anything important. 

You should probably aim to show a level of impact at least comparable to rock em sock em robots..

 

 

Edited February 28 by Fenriwolf

[Verevolf]

The thing which breaks my immersion is the kinesthetics of the animation, it doesn't match the scale, things look slow but don’t feel like they have weight. 

Edited February 28 by Verevolf

[Fenriwolf]

3 hours ago, Verevolf said:

The thing which breaks my immersion is the kinesthetics of the animation, it doesn't match the scale, things look slow but don’t feel like they have weight. 

I tried for a while to find a way to write exactly this

[phandaal]

On 2/22/2024 at 6:22 PM, MegaVolt87 said:

They would have been better off leaving the fans to do this quality on YT and not spend any money to output this quality from the company itself.

 

This is the kicker, really, but someone at Games Workshop had big money signs in their eyes and thought they were going to get ALL the streaming money.

 

Of course, people are not subscribed to Warhammer Minus for the animations. Most people are subscribed for the minis.

[Joe]

First episode is out on Wednesday.

[Cenobite Terminator]

Im looking forward to it.

[son of the forest]

Going off today's community article, its just 1 episode

[Doghouse]

I'm a bit surprised that was by Lost Legion after Exodite was so good.

 

It was ok, fairly typical predictable 40k story but the lip sync was really bad and really off putting, the protagonist's jaw line could cut glass and the weird mouth movements drew my attention to it constantly. I'd rate a little under average, Exodite was so much better and this is not something I'd rush out to watch a follow up to, I'd give it 5/10 at best.

[Cenobite Terminator]

I enjoyed the first episode and am looking forward to the next one.