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1 minute ago, appiah4 said:

Can anyone explain to me why on earth Lemartes, who is already lost to the Black Rage, has crossed the Rubicon?

Because all marine characters that will be kept going forward, will be converted to primaris.

 

Oh you mean an in universe explanation? Eh, don't bother.

 

Honestly, GW should never have done the whole, crossing the rubicon is dangerous thing to begin with.

2 minutes ago, appiah4 said:

Can anyone explain to me why on earth Lemartes, who is already lost to the Black Rage, has crossed the Rubicon?

 

It'll probably be handwaved as, "he's so strong-willed he was able to cross the Rubicon even though everyone thought it was impossible."

1 minute ago, Lord Marshal said:

 

It'll probably be handwaved as, "he's so strong-willed he was able to cross the Rubicon even though everyone thought it was impossible."

 

"He's totes going to die on the slab, The Angel's blessings on him. WHAT?! HE LIVED?!?"

[distant sound of crazed shouting]

Has anyone significant like ever failed to cross the Rubicon and died?  I mean, let's just say for the sake of argument Lemartes has will of iron, but then again who doesn't?  What is the purpose of actually making him cross the Rubicon?  Isn't he SUPPOSED to die? 

 

"Brother, I have an idea.  You remember that lunatic chaplain in the dungeon?  The one we send out to die, but always comes back alive?  Let's make him stronger, more durable!"

"Brother, you are a genius!"

 

Seriously, wat?

3 minutes ago, Blindhamster said:

Yeah I don’t think there will be any reference to him crossing, and his armour design has nods to but not necessarily a direct mkX

For what it's worth it has the same waist guards, the same ankles, the same knee guards, the same closed abdomen, the same neckline etc. as Mk X.  You could try arguing it's Mk VII but it's not, it does not have the abdomen cabling, that section is closed exactly like MkX.  You could argue it's Mk VIII armor, but it's not, it doesn't have the collar, it has the Mk X neckline.

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2 minutes ago, appiah4 said:

Has anyone significant like ever failed to cross the Rubicon and died?  I mean, let's just say for the sake of argument Lemartes has will of iron, but then again who doesn't?  What is the purpose of actually making him cross the Rubicon?  Isn't he SUPPOSED to die? 

 

"Brother, I have an idea.  You remember that lunatic chaplain in the dungeon?  The one we send out to die, but always comes back alive?  Let's make him stronger, more durable!"

"Brother, you are a genius!"

 

Seriously, wat?

The lore tells us that some do fail. But no Character has ever failed.

 

Edit: Guessing this is going to cost me 220-250 Cdn. I am very very tempted. Easier for me to paint initially, less paints needed. new special book, i like the box. and so on

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The Rubicon Primaris will probably be retconned out of existence in an edition or two anyway.

 

"What do you mean? Marines have ALWAYS been this big! Blocked for wrongthink."

1 minute ago, Jolemai said:

Almost reads as if the Furioso and Librarian Dreadnought wont be in the Codex Supplement... :down:

Given no plastic model currently exists for them...I'd prepare for the worst. Though wouldn't the brutalis fit in for the furioso anyway?

3 minutes ago, Blindhamster said:

Yeah I don’t think there will be any reference to him crossing, and his armour design has nods to but not necessarily a direct mkX

Greaves are completely Mk. X, jumppack is clearly too, extra chappy gubbinz or no.

41 minutes ago, caladancid said:

And as a side note, I do wonder why GW seems to avoid long haired heads for the Blood Angels upgrades. They often are shown in art with it, but never seems to pan out with the releases with the exception of unique models.

 

I think long hair either requires it to be tied up, or has to be sculpted onto the neck/back/shoulders etc to look good. A head that has a "universal fit" is tricky to make work.

 

//

 

38 minutes ago, ChapterMasterGodfrey said:

...a fumble on not doing a ab chest piece...

 

The newer kits don't really have "universal" front pieces that can be mixed and matched across models. So if they made a chest piece, it would have to be a chest piece to go with one specific Intercessor. (The exception to this is the Terminators, where on their reveal they mentioned how they were designed with this sort of thing in mind.)

 

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But he's short, and stocky, and those greaves are literally 1st born knock offs with how flared they are.

 

There's been 0 indication on whether he crosses or not. This is the edition of "Hey who knows what they are?" So I can see them saying he is the same as he's ever been. 

7 minutes ago, Jolemai said:

Almost reads as if the Furioso and Librarian Dreadnought wont be in the Codex Supplement... :down:

This is what I've been trying to suss out, there's 19 current BA datasheets and 18 in the new supplement.

Death company Intercessors and (FB) Death Company are currently 2 seperate datasheets, with this box I think it's fair to say they are probably getting smooshed into one datasheet which would account for the one missing datasheet.

I think everything else might be safe because I can't really see BA getting 2 extra datasheets, personally? I guess we'll see but maybe even Tycho is sticking around, who I think has been dead in-lore longer than I've been alive :laugh:

26 minutes ago, appiah4 said:

Can anyone explain to me why on earth Lemartes, who is already lost to the Black Rage, has crossed the Rubicon?

Easy, he hasn't. There's no mention of it in the article, just upgraded armour.

 

I'm wondering if I can remove the BA details from lemartes and use him elsewhere, I really like the mini. Alas whoever painted him gave him 'boss eyes'.

28 minutes ago, appiah4 said:

Can anyone explain to me why on earth Lemartes, who is already lost to the Black Rage, has crossed the Rubicon?

 

Maybe they wanted to see if crossing the Rubicon could actually cure the Black Rage. Lemartes volunteers but it doesn't work so he goes back to doing what he does best in new MkX armour.

30 minutes ago, appiah4 said:

Can anyone explain to me why on earth Lemartes, who is already lost to the Black Rage, has crossed the Rubicon?

It's been confirmed that non-rubicon-d marines now use MK10 armour, too. That's why one of the Leviathan Sternguard has a MK7 helmet. I think they just gave him some new gear because he's a cool dude who don't afraid of any Black Rage.

1 minute ago, Karhedron said:

 

Maybe they wanted to see if crossing the Rubicon could actually cure the Black Rage. Lemartes volunteers but it doesn't work so he goes back to doing what he does best in new MkX armour.

 

I don't hate that as a possible explanation, but they reeeeeeaallllyyyy needed to do that PRIOR to all the "Primaris are still suffering from the Black Rage" nonsense they stretched out over 8th/9th edition.

12 minutes ago, Jolemai said:

Almost reads as if the Furioso and Librarian Dreadnought wont be in the Codex Supplement... :down:

 

18 datasheets, the current is 19... replacing the 3 datasheets of the plastic BA dreadnought with the brutalis would give an end result of 17 datasheets.

 

Its very likely, looking that the Death company marines with jump packs are intercessors. That they will blend DC marines and DC intercessors in one profile.

I also cant imagine they keep both Tycho's.

 

These are imho more likely losses than the librarian dreadnought at this moment.

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