Rumour Blood Angel Boxset

[DemonGSides]

1 minute ago, TheMawr said:

 

18 datasheets, the current is 19... replacing the 3 datasheets of the plastic BA dreadnought with the brutalis would give an end result of 17 datasheets.

 

Its very likely, looking that the Death company marines with jump packs are intercessors. That they will blend DC marines and DC intercessors in one profile.

I also cant imagine they keep both Tycho's.

 

These are imho more likely losses than the librarian dreadnought at this moment.

 

DC Marines and DC intercessors gives us 18.  Remove FirstBorn DC and add in DC Ass Int W JP, still at 18.

DC Dread just gets updated to redemptor chassis instead of Castefarum, still at 18.

Everything else is an upgrade or remains the same.  I"d love to lose Tycho and get two new units, maybe one's a Baal Gladiator and the other is a brand new infantry unit.

It isn't going to happen, but a man can dream!

[Pathstrider]

9 minutes ago, DemonGSides said:

But he's short, and stocky, and those greaves are literally 1st born knock offs with how flared they are.

 

There's been 0 indication on whether he crosses or not. This is the edition of "Hey who knows what they are?" So I can see them saying he is the same as he's ever been. 

Is he short/stocky or is it how it looks cause he’s walking down stairs and is leaning forward?

 

I can’t tell.

[Noserenda]

They probably wont mention the rubicon, fans have been so increasingly weird about the Primaris divide they just stopped talking about it because it was never that important, just a rescale. Marines are this big now, you want to assume they are hobbit scale or not thats on you.

[DemonGSides]

Just now, Pathstrider said:

Is he short/stocky or is it how it looks cause he’s walking down stairs and is leaning forward?

 

I can’t tell.

 

Honestly both.  He's definitely got a bit of Custodes Captain issue with the leg posing making him shorter than his contemporaries, but combined with the greaves, the only part of him that SCREAMS Primaris is the jump pack.  But since they're just giving that jump pack out all willy nilly anyways, I think they just want to move away from the (Far superior) Jump Packs of old.

 

I'll wait to hear what they have to say for lore on him in the codex supplement when it comes out.  I don't get worked up over the Primaris thing like some people do, so it's ultimately not going to matter to me because I don't care about that part of the lore.  I'm still a fan of his 2nd model over this iteration, but this one isn't BAD.

I just wish they had switched which models they tried to honor the past with.  Give me a straight scale upgraded Lemartes and then completely re-do Astorath; his pose is so stupid.

[LemartestheLost]

Okay, absolutely LOVE the new Astorath, our boy got the biggest glow-up! HATE nu-Lemartes. All of the previous grace that the old model had is gone IMO and the skullhelm with the teeth with looks very cartoonish. We knew DC were getting gutted but it still hurts to see.

[Handsome Fred]

If astorath is the only model with real wings and the Sanguindary Guard will feature a wing-less backpack...I have to put back online my shop with these :D

[Wormwoods]

Well, between a basic Brutalis and a confirmed Death Company Brutalis option, I think the design space of the Furioso is firmly covered. Like, I get it, it's nice when they're named like the old thing, but 'close combat dread with claws' is gonna have to be close enough. Hell, you can probably still use your old Furioso models, I doubt many people would mind. 

 

Unsure what they would do with a Librarian Dread, though. Treat it as a BA upgrade to the Redemptor, like the new Death Company is an upgrade to the Brutalis? Guess we'll see.

[DemonGSides]

Just now, Wormwoods said:

Well, between a basic Brutalis and a confirmed Death Company Brutalis option, I think the design space of the Furioso is firmly covered. Like, I get it, it's nice when they're named like the old thing, but 'close combat dread with claws' is gonna have to be close enough. Hell, you can probably still use your old Furioso models, I doubt many people would mind. 

 

Unsure what they would do with a Librarian Dread, though. Treat it as a BA upgrade to the Redemptor, like the new Death Company is an upgrade to the Brutalis? Guess we'll see.

 

My hope is 11th is when we get our full out Libby Dread Replacement. 

[Dark Shepherd]

48 minutes ago, appiah4 said:

In the grim darkness of the near future, there is only money..

You try paying the electricity bill for a million worlds :)

Edited July 29 by Dark Shepherd

[Wormwoods]

Just now, DemonGSides said:

My hope is 11th is when we get our full out Libby Dread Replacement. 

Well, conveniently, that's probably only like 2 years away.

[Gamiel]

47 minutes ago, appiah4 said:

Can anyone explain to me why on earth Lemartes, who is already lost to the Black Rage, has crossed the Rubicon?

He is Lemartes. If he falls in battle and they can save him they will do it.

[Wormwoods]

Just now, Gamiel said:

He is Lemartes. If he falls in battle and they can save him they will do it.

Just apply my Dante headcanon: that's not the original Lamartes, they're doing some Revenant Legion stuff with these named characters. This time he was just eaten by a Primaris dude. Makes more sense than everyone else having their guys survive losing in your home games.

[appiah4]

2 minutes ago, Gamiel said:

He is Lemartes. If he falls in battle and they can save him they will do it.

I don't think that is how the Death Company works..

[Gamiel]

Just now, appiah4 said:

I don't think that is how the Death Company works..

Lemartes is not your ordinary Death Company member...

[darkhorse0607]

Lemartes is probably my new favorite recent 40k model. Astorath is a solid upgrade as well. DC I'm mixed on. I still think it's a step down from the firstborn, but a step up from the current primaris kit

 

Upgrade sprue is ok, kind of lackluster imo but at least the heads have fangs

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

I’m sad these rumors were true. I am so underwhelmed by what we’ve seen so far. The DC are what i feared they’d be, just normal AIs and JAIs as far as loadouts go.

 

even with the rumors of an evicserator option, a single eviscerstor on top of a power fist/sword is very underwhelming compared to what we’re likely going to be losing in way of the firstborn DC and weapon options.

 

astorath is an underwhelming sculpt/pose imho.

 

30 minutes ago, LemartestheLost said:

Okay, absolutely LOVE the new Astorath, our boy got the biggest glow-up! HATE nu-Lemartes. All of the previous grace that the old model had is gone IMO and the skullhelm with the teeth with looks very cartoonish. We knew DC were getting gutted but it still hurts to see.

What glow up? The shifted the angle he’s swinging his axe, and exchanged his tactical scrolls for a tactical rock, otherwise it’s basically the same model

 

57 minutes ago, appiah4 said:

Has anyone significant like ever failed to cross the Rubicon and died?  I mean, let's just say for the sake of argument Lemartes has will of iron, but then again who doesn't?  What is the purpose of actually making him cross the Rubicon?  Isn't he SUPPOSED to die? 

 

"Brother, I have an idea.  You remember that lunatic chaplain in the dungeon?  The one we send out to die, but always comes back alive?  Let's make him stronger, more durable!"

"Brother, you are a genius!"

 

Seriously, wat?

I don’t think you understand the lemartese’s lore.

 

while he’s in the grips of the Rage he’s relatively lucid, to the point he’s not a threat to others, and can still generally operate normally.

 

as such he’d be a great subject to experiment on to see if crossing the rubicon could cure brothers who fall to the rage.

 

https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Lemartes

[Toxichobbit]

5 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

What glow up? The shifted the angle he’s swinging his axe, and exchanged his tactical scrolls for a tactical rock, otherwise it’s basically the same model

 

Plus his arms look unnatural/don't look attached to his body, he has a weird death mask that's not a full helmet and he has oddly thin legs. The only Blood Angel character update they've done that I think is an improvement is Mephiston. The rest are just bad.

[INKS]

2 minutes ago, Toxichobbit said:

 

Plus his arms look unnatural/don't look attached to his body, he has a weird death mask that's not a full helmet and he has oddly thin legs. The only Blood Angel character update they've done that I think is an improvement is Mephiston. The rest are just bad.

I think it's the left shoulder pad in particular, it's upside down. hehe.

[ChapelXIII]

Just some general positivity, I really like the new sculps and am looking forward to getting my hands on the box set. I think Darkness in the Blood goes over some of the intracacies of the primaris and the Black Rage which is interesting if anyone wants to go more into the fluff of that. 

[Toxichobbit]

9 minutes ago, INKS said:

I think it's the left shoulder pad in particular, it's upside down. hehe.

 

Yeah, the arms are probably fine without the shoulder pads. With them though, it just looks like the arms are stuck on, not connected.

 

Also, Lemartes has a ball gag....

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

6 minutes ago, ChapelXIII said:

Just some general positivity, I really like the new sculps and am looking forward to getting my hands on the box set. I think Darkness in the Blood goes over some of the intracacies of the primaris and the Black Rage which is interesting if anyone wants to go more into the fluff of that. 

I don’t recall anything specific about primaris and the rage, except they didn’t know about it, presumably because they were dying in battle. Beyond that I don’t think they really discuss the primaris and the black rage.

[Tokugawa]

This version of upgrades has very vampiric faces.

[mecanojavi99]

Like both models although there is some wonkiness with Lemartes, like he is leaning forward and makes him look a lot smaller, may be a perspective thing.

 

Not much to say about Astorath, it's pretty much the same but modern, they added the MK X wings from Assault Intercessors to it but nothing else.

 

The units are what I expected, but I think they could have gone a little bit further with the Dreadnaught, an upgrade sprue that adds a Magna-Grapple on top instead of the heavy stubber would have been perfect for a new Furioso Dreadnaught, since the basic Brutalis already has the claws.

 

I find it weird that people in 2024 is still surprised that GW is primarising everyone, it's nothing new, people also wondered about Belial because he was wearing Terminator Armour, only to be revealed that he had crossed the Rubicon as well.

 

 No important character is going to die in what is basically an standard procedure by now, specially not someone as angry as Lemartes.

[LSM]

Vis-à-vis the possibility of losing some dreadnoughts, the Librarian Dreadnought, Furiosa Dreadnought, and Death Company Dreadnought are all the same kit, right? I'd imagine that they all go, or they all stay.

[INKS]

2 minutes ago, mecanojavi99 said:

Like both models although there is some wonkiness with Lemartes, like he is leaning forward and makes him look a lot smaller, may be a perspective thing.

 

Not much to say about Astorath, it's pretty much the same but modern, they added the MK X wings from Assault Intercessors to it but nothing else.

 

The units are what I expected, but I think they could have gone a little bit further with the Dreadnaught, an upgrade sprue that adds a Magna-Grapple on top instead of the heavy stubber would have been perfect for a new Furioso Dreadnaught, since the basic Brutalis already has the claws.

 

I find it weird that people in 2024 is still surprised that GW is primarising everyone, it's nothing new, people also wondered about Belial because he was wearing Terminator Armour, only to be revealed that he had crossed the Rubicon as well.

 

 No important character is going to die in what is basically an standard procedure by now, specially not someone as angry as Lemartes.

Little OT: I think players talk about the crossing a lot because the lore, and in books it makes it sounds very very dangerous to do. There is a big risk involved. That just doesn't and won't translate well to the table top. GW isn't going to kill off a major character this way. "Sorry everyone, there won't be a Lemartes model because he failed to cross properly, you can no longer use him in 10th Ed...." Players would be even more upset if that happened. hehe.