Rumour Blood Angel Boxset

[Blindhamster]

Looks like the axe became strength 8 too!

[Mostwanted]

3 hours ago, Wispy said:

I really like that Lemartes but he's not really resemble classic Lemartes at all.

Exactly. Comparing the new one to the current one, if you put them side by side you wouldn't think they are supposed to be the same character. The icons on the legs are completely different. The chest is totally different, even if the current one had the jump pack harness removed, the chest design doesn't match. Even the icon on the belt buckle isn't the same. The only things that I can see that are similar is the metal band on the models right thigh, the Blood Drop on the helmet and the grenade on the left leg. Yes both have a skull pad on the right shoulder, but both are very different designs with the current one being a lot more detailed.

 

I wonder why it's so different when Astorath is so similar and according to the rumours the new Sanguinor is going to be in the same pose as the current one? I wonder if this was originally meant to be a generic Blood Angels Chaplain with Jump pack that got a name change.

 

Don't get me wrong, I really like the new Lemartes (apart from the helmet), it just seems a little strange it's so different with very little to link this model to the current one.

[jimbo1701]

I like the reinvention of the characters. I’m underwhelmed by everything else. The price paid for primaris scale marines seems to be a heavier lean towards the generic. The golden age of 5th - 6th edition when the divergent chapters really did get a host of glorious unique kits seems to be over. I was initially hopeful when the black Templars release came out, but I think what’s missing for dark and blood angels is a solid 2x5 man core  kit like the crusader squad. If they were to subsequently release a robed kit for dark angels and an artificer kit for blood angels both with all the trimmings in the kit I’m sure if would fly off the shelves. 

[Pathstrider]

4 hours ago, Wispy said:

I really like that Lemartes but he's not really resemble classic Lemartes at all.

You mean this guy? :)

 

4 hours ago, Wispy said:

 

 

Edited July 30 by Pathstrider

[soviet1337]

1 hour ago, Pathstrider said:

You mean this guy? :)

 

 

 

That's the one I think of too. Biggest glow-up in sculpting history! 

[Blindhamster]

Thing about lemartes, is he has a totally new look each time, he doesn’t have a consistent appearance. Astorath had a very keyed in appearance that it made sense not to deviate over much from.

 

whilst I think the 2nd lemartes is one of the best marine models ever, I have to admit the new one has more unique character and actually probably fits the character better overall

[Dark Shepherd]

Apologies for the minor tangent but have we had any Divergent marine (Primaris) dual character but chapter specific kits

 

Hypothetical example: Mephiston/Blood Angels Psyker

 

Or, Templars aside, Chapter specific generic characters?

 

Hypothetical example: Primaris Dark Angels Librarian

Edited July 30 by Dark Shepherd

[Lord Nord in Gravis Armour]

5 minutes ago, Dark Shepherd said:

Apologies for the minor tangent but have we had any Divergent marine (Primaris) dual character but chapter specific kits

 

Hypothetical example: Mephiston/Blood Angels Psyker

 

Or, Templars aside, Chapter specific generic characters?

 

Hypothetical example: Primaris Dark Angels Librarian

 

Lazarus was also buildable as a generic Dark Angels Captain.

[jaxom]

10 minutes ago, Dark Shepherd said:

Apologies for the minor tangent but have we had any Divergent marine (Primaris) dual character but chapter specific kits

 

Hypothetical example: Mephiston/Blood Angels Psyker

 

Or, Templars aside, Chapter specific generic characters?

 

Hypothetical example: Primaris Dark Angels Librarian

Dark Angels Master kit builds Master Lazarus or generic Master.

[Cyrox]

I don’t mind the fact that Lemartes is different, plus if it’s meant to be new armour then that could explain cosmetic differences for those that are bothered.

 

I still love this Death Company chaplain, not Lemartes but still awesome. 
 

 

[Frogian]

Yeah that model is an absolute classic. The 3 (4?) 2nd ed chaplains were all great, and then the next batch too as well (4th or 5th ed?).  it is a pity how many things these days are just 1 monopose model.

[Blindhamster]

I remember going on holiday and refusing to spend my money so I could buy the old death company box that included that chaplain when I was maybe 10 years old. Glorious classic model 

[Robbienw]

I remember when the first Lemartes came out.  Hilarious model.

 

It was one of the Mike Mcvey's first GW production sculpts, he got a lot better.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

4 hours ago, Cyrox said:

I don’t mind the fact that Lemartes is different, plus if it’s meant to be new armour then that could explain cosmetic differences for those that are bothered.

 

I still love this Death Company chaplain, not Lemartes but still awesome. 
 

 

I would love it if they gave us an updated version of this.

3 hours ago, Frogian said:

Yeah that model is an absolute classic. The 3 (4?) 2nd ed chaplains were all great, and then the next batch too as well (4th or 5th ed?).  it is a pity how many things these days are just 1 monopose model.

…but weren’t all of those chaplains metal monopose models?

[WrathOfTheLion]

3 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

…but weren’t all of those chaplains metal monopose models?

There were more than one then, though, vs a single monopose model, which meant you still had some choice. It's not necessarily the monopose that's directly the problem, but being monopose and being the only choice.

[appiah4]

23 hours ago, Captain Idaho said:

I don't think it beats the original, but it certainly looks good and dare I say it... from first glances by me I think it equals it.

Dude.. You said.. The original?

 

[Tichinde]

4 hours ago, Cyrox said:

I don’t mind the fact that Lemartes is different, plus if it’s meant to be new armour then that could explain cosmetic differences for those that are bothered.

 

I still love this Death Company chaplain, not Lemartes but still awesome. 
 

 

I just updated my own, but looking forward to new Blood Angels!

[Tyriks]

21 hours ago, DemonGSides said:

 

I think I'd just rather have more helmets over "Here's 10 different blood drops that are miniscule".

Like any of the charms are really disappointing over anything like;

I get wanting sculpted nipples and abs is probably a HUGE ask with how Space Marines are built now-a-days, but the lack of helmets mask and the almost COMPLETE lack of Chalices is the real ??? in my mind.

 

Edit; Realizing that the one helmet they are giving us is literally just the original Primaris Upgrade Sprue helmet all over again.  That's really sticking in my craw.

Just put the nipples themselves on the upgrade sprue to add to any chest you want, simple!

Edited July 30 by Tyriks

[Wispy]

10 hours ago, Mostwanted said:

Exactly. Comparing the new one to the current one, if you put them side by side you wouldn't think they are supposed to be the same character. The icons on the legs are completely different. The chest is totally different, even if the current one had the jump pack harness removed, the chest design doesn't match. Even the icon on the belt buckle isn't the same. The only things that I can see that are similar is the metal band on the models right thigh, the Blood Drop on the helmet and the grenade on the left leg. Yes both have a skull pad on the right shoulder, but both are very different designs with the current one being a lot more detailed.

 

I wonder why it's so different when Astorath is so similar and according to the rumours the new Sanguinor is going to be in the same pose as the current one? I wonder if this was originally meant to be a generic Blood Angels Chaplain with Jump pack that got a name change.

 

Don't get me wrong, I really like the new Lemartes (apart from the helmet), it just seems a little strange it's so different with very little to link this model to the current one.

Well it's not like the past Lermartes minis haven't also looked like Generic Blood Angel Chaplains. I do think this is intended to be Lermartes - at least this one feels like the first Lemartes model that has reflected his Anger Management Problem and has Death Company iconography modeled onto him.

 

Anyways, I dig the model, including the helm, but the one thing i wished carried over was the bone feet. Weird to think his shoes was the only box i needed ticked. I suppose some skilled painting. If I was painting the fella I'd do what Darren Latham did for his Damned Legionnaire when he painted bones on the feet.  

[Scribe]

5 minutes ago, Wispy said:

Lemartes model that has reflected his Anger Management Problem and has Death Company iconography modeled onto him.

 

The entire point being for Lamartes, that he retains his lucidity while in the grip of the Black Rage...but whatever I suppose.

[mecanojavi99]

3 minutes ago, Scribe said:

 

The entire point being for Lamartes, that he retains his lucidity while in the grip of the Black Rage...but whatever I suppose.

Lucid ≠ Calm

[CL_Mission]

15 minutes ago, Wispy said:

Anyways, I dig the model, including the helm, but the one thing i wished carried over was the bone feet. Weird to think his shoes was the only box i needed ticked. I suppose some skilled painting. If I was painting the fella I'd do what Darren Latham did for his Damned Legionnaire when he painted bones on the feet.  

Yeah the lack of the bone toes is a little dissapointing. Even on the old model the model the only things boney about him was the helmet and the toes, not the hands or chest or limbs, which seems kinda odd when you think about it but the loss of the boney feet seems like a shame.

[roryokane]

Not generally a fan of Primaris resculpts but Lemartes looks SICK.

[Blindhamster]

15 minutes ago, Scribe said:

 

The entire point being for Lamartes, that he retains his lucidity while in the grip of the Black Rage...but whatever I suppose.

His portrayal in the lemartes book is… far from calm. He is barely restrained at beach and absolutely cuts loose once in combat. It’s directed rage, but still rage. For him he sees both the events of the heresy and current time.

[DemonGSides]

13 minutes ago, Blindhamster said:

His portrayal in the lemartes book is… far from calm. He is barely restrained at beach and absolutely cuts loose once in combat. It’s directed rage, but still rage. For him he sees both the events of the heresy and current time.

 

This is exactly Scribes point; the new Lemartes model is definitely just full on rage boner mode. The old model could be argued to hew too close to restrained.

 

I think there's a better middle ground that would fit the "Guy gripped by rage but is holding onto it quite well" that isn't "This is Wolverine." Like we got.

 

I don't hate the new model. Just liked the old one more.