Ossiarch Bonereapers as Ruinstorm Daemons?

[Valkyrion]

Just spitballing an idea about using ossiarchs for a daemon army, instead of the traditional daemons.

 

I think the ossiarch models are cool, have a almost sci-fi vibe, and all their smiling faces are pretty creepy - like, I dunno, the silent, smiling dead coming to carry your soul to the warp kinda thing. 

They also cover most of the daemon army list - mortek guard for lesser daemons, stalkers for brutes, spirit hosts for swarms, harvesters for behemoths, nighthaunt harridans for harriers, nagash for a greater daemon etc.

 

But I feel I'd need to do *something* to them to stop them simply being Ossiarch Bonereapers - but what?

Anyone got any examples of traditional fantasy models used in a similar 30k or 40k setting?

[Emperor Ming]

Not sure skeletons are the best choice to represent daemons?

 

Which chaos god? 

 

Hashut of course, is the only correct answer

[phandaal]

35 minutes ago, Valkyrion said:

Just spitballing an idea about using ossiarchs for a daemon army, instead of the traditional daemons.

 

I think the ossiarch models are cool, have a almost sci-fi vibe, and all their smiling faces are pretty creepy - like, I dunno, the silent, smiling dead coming to carry your soul to the warp kinda thing. 

They also cover most of the daemon army list - mortek guard for lesser daemons, stalkers for brutes, spirit hosts for swarms, harvesters for behemoths, nighthaunt harridans for harriers, nagash for a greater daemon etc.

 

But I feel I'd need to do *something* to them to stop them simply being Ossiarch Bonereapers - but what?

Anyone got any examples of traditional fantasy models used in a similar 30k or 40k setting?

 

Color scheme makes a big difference, and maybe adding some "scifi" bits to the model or base, like a busted helmet or mechanical ruins.

 

For example - here is a Kharadron Overlord model from AoS that I painted up for 40k recently:

 

Spoiler

 

All I did was use the same paint scheme as my other Votann, the same alien planet basing, and also added some Votann decals to his book.

 

Finally (this is not visible on the front of the model) I filled in a few of the steam dials and screws with gap filler and clipped off some of the mechanical-looking knobs that were more steampunk than scifi. Actual "conversion" on the model is nonexistent aside from that.

 

He is right at home on a 40k battlefield and does not look out of place at all.

[Valkyrion]

13 minutes ago, Emperor Ming said:

Not sure skeletons are the best choice to represent daemons?

 

Which chaos god? 

 

Hashut of course, is the only correct answer

 

The planets of the horus heresy are littered with skeletons ripe for reanimation, but you might be right.

 

Space Skaven was another possibility, but I don't like the models as much and that is a sure fire way for me to lose interest. 

 

[phandaal]

29 minutes ago, Emperor Ming said:

Not sure skeletons are the best choice to represent daemons?

 

Bonereapers are basic skeletons in the same way that Kharadron are basic fantasy dwarves... In other words, they aren't. 

 

12 minutes ago, Valkyrion said:

The planets of the horus heresy are littered with skeletons ripe for reanimation, but you might be right.

 

After a quick glance at the models, you could definitely make them scifi just by playing up the glowing bits, maybe painting more of the elements metallic, and sticking some tubing or cabling ruins on their bases.

[terminator ultra]

32 minutes ago, Emperor Ming said:

Which chaos god? 

maybe but them on fire for khorn, loads of technical for nurgle, etc

1 hour ago, Valkyrion said:

But I feel I'd need to do *something* to them to stop them simply being Ossiarch Bonereapers - but what?

Anyone got any examples of traditional fantasy models used in a similar 30k or 40k setting?

maybe just give them guns?

[Gamiel]

I like the idea.

 

I think just using different colours and maybe put them on SF bases will be enought to make them "not-bonereapers" for the most part

[lansalt]

I don't see most of the Bonereapers range working as 30k/40k daemons, except for the cavalry and the big models. For example this kit looks great for a trio of Tzeench's Daemon Brutes (even if they would need smaller bases):

https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/Endless-Spells-Ossiarch-Bonereapers-2019

 

[LameBeard]

So someone on this forum had the idea a while ago of using Nighthaunt as ruinstorm daemons. At the time I didn’t like the idea, but now I think it’s a fantastic idea and want to try it myself. I think 40k-ing up the bases should do for chainrasps because they are pretty generic, but perhaps some of the Ossiarch Bonereaper models are a bit more specific, and might benefit from a little conversion / head or weapon swaps maybe? 

 

But the great thing with the new 8-fold ruinstorm list is you don’t have to lean into one of the big 4 powers - chaos has other weird stuff going on too!

Edited May 15 by LameBeard
Typo

[Noserenda]

Yeah ive got a heap of nighthaunt for ruinstorm but i think bonereapers work too, you dont need to adapt much because daemons, but if you arent linking them to another army i think i really sci fi basing scheme helps, like blue sand, purple plants or something :D 

[Xenith]

Living automata made from bone? Why not! Peronally I'd avoid the 'command' elements, like guys pointing with sticks, scrolls etc and have a bit more of a bestial, disorganised (chaotic) army. 

[LameBeard]

You could also go crazy on the paint scheme - maybe they aren’t made of bone? Maybe it’s spectral green or fire red as suggested above?

[Gamiel]

10 hours ago, Noserenda said:

sci fi basing scheme helps, like blue sand, purple plants or something :D 

I think Sector Imperialis, Necromunda, Boarding Action, and Zone Mortalis bases are a better idea, at least as a starting point. Partly because blue sand and purple plants are things you see in Age of Sigmar's weird fantasy setting.

[LameBeard]

I like the idea of ruinstorm daemons on ZM bases because I think it’s on the warp-faring ships where the veil is often thinnest. In fact we get a breach in more than one of the early Horus Heresy novels.

Edited April 19 by LameBeard
Warp not void. Usual pedantry.

[Marshal Rohr]

I tried this and didn’t find it to be effective, you essentially just end up with very small human sized bone guys. 

[Noserenda]

4 hours ago, Gamiel said:

I think Sector Imperialis, Necromunda, Boarding Action, and Zone Mortalis bases are a better idea, at least as a starting point. Partly because blue sand and purple plants are things you see in Age of Sigmar's weird fantasy setting.

You are just as likely to see metal decks and the like in that setting too :D More so in fact given one of the realms is all metal all the time :D 

[LameBeard]

5 hours ago, Marshal Rohr said:

I tried this and didn’t find it to be effective, you essentially just end up with very small human sized bone guys. 

Kudos for trying. Care to share any pictures?

[Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf]

Hummm. Depends a lot of the miniature. I think you need something Ogrynn-size like. I'm not very enthusiastic with using those demons, but maybe can be at least, curious.

[Xenith]

On 4/19/2024 at 5:56 PM, Trysanna said:

use BFTBG in the recesses and joints, make them look like the warped skeletons of the dead ripped out of their meat prisons.

 

"so...the crew just turned inside out, but otherwise we're good"

[jaxom]

On 4/18/2024 at 10:07 AM, Valkyrion said:

Just spitballing an idea about using ossiarchs for a daemon army, instead of the traditional daemons.

*SNIP*

But I feel I'd need to do *something* to them to stop them simply being Ossiarch Bonereapers - but what?

 

I think it's a good idea. I'd avoid any of the helmeted heads because I think a good amount of the appeal is the unsettling grin (kind of like one some of the Nurgle daemons). One thing I'd definitely ditch is the shields. I don't think daemons of any sort are going to be very defensive in thought and daemons forming a shield wall seems laughable. Replacing it with a second weapon (perhaps converted from the spear tip?) to make duel-wielding daemons seems like an option. Another possibility is adding notches to weapons and armor. Daemon equipment trends towards beaten up (Nurgle) or with curves (everyone else)

 

On 4/18/2024 at 10:45 AM, Emperor Ming said:

Which chaos god? 

 More like "which Aetheric Dominion?" A fungal tone (and the growths off the Ossiarch heads provoked that idea) works well for Encroaching Ruin. Enough blood splatter, or perhaps red OSL, would make for a nice Ravenous Dissolution.

[Emperor Ming]

3 hours ago, jaxom said:

 More like "which Aetheric Dominion?" 

No not really, daemons all have a very specific flavour or look that can easily identify their patron god

[Noserenda]

Not in the Ruinstorm, where they work inexplicably hard to keep daemons vague even though we all know what they are :D 

[Petitioner's City]

On 5/13/2024 at 11:47 PM, Emperor Ming said:

No not really, daemons all have a very specific flavour or look that can easily identify their patron god

 

I think the great thing about the ruinstorm list is to liberate you from such a narrowly "realist" take :)

[Deus_Ex_Machina]

I have just yesterday ordered an Esoterist for my Iron Hands. This way I can play them as Traitors in the future and be able to use daemons. What will those daemons look like? Well, they can´t stick out like a sore thumb so they will receive a liquid metal look. Though the models themselves will probably come from another company.

[Petitioner's City]

1 hour ago, Deus_Ex_Machina said:

I have just yesterday ordered an Esoterist for my Iron Hands. This way I can play them as Traitors in the future and be able to use daemons. What will those daemons look like? Well, they can´t stick out like a sore thumb so they will receive a liquid metal look. Though the models themselves will probably come from another company.

 

Another thing is adding small clockwork pieces to them - even cutting models to insert clockwork pieces into the slits- melding flesh and metal in a way that is cool and baroque and antique?