Commissars, do they need a rework?

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

I’ve always felt losing a dude to pass a morale/ld test never felt good.

 

Would passing battleshock and adding 1 to the OC of each non-character/leader model in the unit for the next turn feel balanced to anyone else?

Edited May 24, 2024 by Inquisitor_Lensoven

[casb1965]

Agree they need a rework.

 

Are you suggesting an autopass for the battleshock test?

 

And +1 OC would be OP in my opinion, imagine him joining a 20 man Krieg unit with a Platoon command squad and battle standard bearer attached. The OC on that unit would be 90+ and I would definitely include a couple in my army for that.

 

Edited May 25, 2024 by casb1965
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[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

  On 5/25/2024 at 7:56 AM, casb1965 said:

Agree they need a rework.

 

Are you suggesting an autopass for the battleshock test?

 

And +1 OC would be OP in my opinion, imagine him joining a 20 man Krieg unit with a Platoon command squad and battle standard bearer attached. The OC on that unit would be 90+ and I would definitely include a couple in my army for that.

 

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Would be 90+ at full strength, but it’s not going to remain remotely full strength for very long, but again, would only happen when the commissar summarily executes a trooper.

 

maybe balance it out by requiring any officer or sgt to be executed first?

[casb1965]

  On 5/25/2024 at 2:30 PM, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

Would be 90+ at full strength, but it’s not going to remain remotely full strength for very long, but again, would only happen when the commissar summarily executes a trooper.

 

maybe balance it out by requiring any officer or sgt to be executed first?

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I'd take killing a model to get +1 OC knowing that model comes back next command phase and I immediately get +1 to hit whilst shooting.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

  On 5/25/2024 at 4:14 PM, casb1965 said:

 

I'd take killing a model to get +1 OC knowing that model comes back next command phase and I immediately get +1 to hit whilst shooting.

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I wouldn’t bank on the krieg medic reviving people when the codex comes out.

[casb1965]

  On 5/25/2024 at 10:51 PM, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

I wouldn’t bank on the krieg medic reviving people when the codex comes out.

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That is true, he could just revert back to the standard 6+ FNP the other medics give. I'm just basing my thoughts on what we currently have.

 

I feel the Commisar needs a massive change but struggling to see how without either them becoming too good or not good enough to stop using alternative leaders.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

  On 5/26/2024 at 8:40 AM, casb1965 said:

 

That is true, he could just revert back to the standard 6+ FNP the other medics give. I'm just basing my thoughts on what we currently have.

 

I feel the Commisar needs a massive change but struggling to see how without either them becoming too good or not good enough to stop using alternative leaders.

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If they remove the krieg revive ability, I think executing one model to insta pass battle shock and add 1 to OC to the squad he’s with until the end of your next command phase would make them worth while to take, especially if he keeps VoC.

[sairence]

I'd love for Commissars to be able to join and order Ogryns and Bullgryns.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

  On 5/26/2024 at 8:47 PM, sairence said:

I'd love for Commissars to be able to join and order Ogryns and Bullgryns.

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That would be pretty great.

it would be cool to have a commissar with an ogryn bodyguard, and then join an ogryn/bullgryn squad.

 

could be a nice little assault unit.

but I don’t know if that alone would be enough to get me to pick one over a castellan in my list.

 

if I were building an ogryn heavy list then of course they’d be an autoinclude if they could join them.

Edited May 26, 2024 by Inquisitor_Lensoven