Joe Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 WarCom Article. Newcromunda continues with a second variant on Haera Helmawr, this time in a Spyrer Suit. Possible chance we see Tamino in the near future? Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf, ZeroWolf and MithrilForge 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
apologist Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Well, doesn't that remind you of the Spindle drones from Blackstone Fortress? I prefer the earlier version of this character (the fur, the skulls, the OTT-ness!), but as a standalone miniature, this looks great. I like that this Spyrer suit looks like the character's legs fit within it – a better solution than the 'we chop off your legs to fit you in' lore of the others. Kastor Krieg, TheMawr, Xirix and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormwoods Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Cool model! Still hate the mouthfeel on 'spyrer'. bloodhound23, Dudley Nightshade and El_Dicko 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048159 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Looking nice, but still prefer the Malstrain. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048167 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ciaphas Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 I like this model...but I prefer the "civilian" model of Lady Haera, with the russian big fur hat. Just soooo many lovely details on that ! Still - I will probably, most likely get this model as well - if I can get my hands on a copy of the Hive Secundus box when it comes out. Timberley and MithrilForge 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toxichobbit Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 The model is decent, but I have to question if a second version of a character that won't be present in 99% of games is really a good use of resources. If they really must do more named characters rather than finishing off the glaring gaps in the generic section of the range, then there are plenty of other characters both old and new awaiting their first sculpt. Plus her original sculpt is leagues above this one. Noserenda, Noctis, Antarius and 3 others 3 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 (edited) Like the model overall but not the head. It looks like a poor version of Angron Wonder if it can face swap or have a mask alternative? @Toxichobbit yeah totally would love to see Wilcox Cinderjack as he still hasn't got a model. Edited July 1 by Captain Idaho Deus_Ex_Machina and Timberley 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Ooof, its not bad exactly, but its a significant downgrade on her original model, though it may just be that awful metallic green scheme making things look bad again, well, that and the original being a stone cold classic. MithrilForge, DemonGSides and skylerboodie 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048174 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 The model is excellent, but the colours GW have painted Spyrers in are still . MithrilForge 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcomet Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Fantastic model! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alby the Slayer Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Not an improve from her last miniature for me, this model has not "charisma", it's not something inspiring. Meh... Also all this resin releases... I get it, it's Necromunda chars, it's normal. But the prices will not. MithrilForge 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodhound23 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 (edited) 4 hours ago, Toxichobbit said: The model is decent, but I have to question if a second version of a character that won't be present in 99% of games is really a good use of resources. If they really must do more named characters rather than finishing off the glaring gaps in the generic section of the range, then there are plenty of other characters both old and new awaiting their first sculpt. Plus her original sculpt is leagues above this one. I often get the impression that this consideration just doesn't come up at all. Across all ranges, it seems like they're designing based on rule of cool. "Hey submit some designs you're working on by end of month". "Ok" "We like these two" "Ok" All this would be fine if they hadn't switched to this idea that options for builds shouldn't exist without existing kits to support official models of those builds. I don't assert that the above conversation is how things are happening, but I'm at a loss to explain how the process might work, as there obviously is no top down push to prioritize rules that have no model support or even to replace older first before redesigning new ones. First In First Out is a nice rule from the restaurant industry, and to me it ought to apply in some sense here involving how time is spent on model design. But what do I know? Edit: It is a cool model, though. Edited July 1 by bloodhound23 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
son of the forest Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 I feel like they should have made this a different Helmawr sibling Zoatibix, Toxichobbit, Lord Marshal and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Ah, lovely miniature, but it's from FW. Still, a lovely miniature, even better in some aspects than the "fashion gala" version. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Ikka Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 Don't like the colors- no real Spire noble would be caught dead wearing knock-off colors of the lower classes! Model itself is ok, will probably get one or two to convert to Spyrer Matriach/Patriach counts-as. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mittens Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 This looks cool. I like it better than the paragon warsuits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INKS Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 really love that model, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antarius Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 (edited) I want to like it, but nah. It's weird because I mostly think the Necromunda stuff knocks it out of the park. I also don't really think special characters of this "level" makes a lot of sense for Necromunda, honestly. But I'd like to use it as a cool spyrer variant, except it just somehow doesn't look very good Edited July 2 by Antarius Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 I like the iridescent metallic green. I'd love to see some Marines painted like that. It really looks like painted metal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 That just looks underwhelming. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timberley Posted July 2 Share Posted July 2 22 hours ago, Captain Idaho said: Like the model overall but not the head. It looks like a poor version of Angron Wonder if it can face swap or have a mask alternative? @Toxichobbit yeah totally would love to see Wilcox Cinderjack as he still hasn't got a model. Yeah I like the model, but like you, immediately thought of Angron. I think if I got it , I'd convert the head to have the porcelain mask face of a Harlequin or Jade Obelisk or something, to make it seem more inhuman. And obviously run it as a generic House Catallus Matriarch, as the only Lady Haera model is the OG Lady Haera, with her fur collar and armoured pannier skirt! Now we just need them to make her brother in a new suit (not the Malcadon suit mentioned in Ruins of Jardlan) that closely resembles ye olde Patriarch model and then we can create a Spyrer gang! leoparden, Captain Idaho and Noserenda 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVoidDragon Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 I don't dislike the miniature, but it doesn't really give across the idea of being one of the most important characters for Necromunda at all. The previous miniature had a great style that gave a good impression of what she was like and being a Noble, this just looks like a slightly bigger version of the standard Spyrer suit with no real sense of anything more than that. Doesn't look anything obviously special. LSM and Noserenda 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brother_b Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 Great mini, face could be better, but I like it more than some of the other newer female faces. I think it’s mostly because it reminds me of a world eater. This character doesn’t seem that compelling to me and I’m so new to Necromunda. Is she supposed to be a leader for a gang? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted July 5 Share Posted July 5 10 minutes ago, brother_b said: Is she supposed to be a leader for a gang? She's the defacto planetary governor and military overlord of Necromunda, House Helmawr, one of the most wealthy and powerful noble houses in the imperium. brother_b 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timberley Posted July 6 Share Posted July 6 18 hours ago, brother_b said: Great mini, face could be better, but I like it more than some of the other newer female faces. I think it’s mostly because it reminds me of a world eater. This character doesn’t seem that compelling to me and I’m so new to Necromunda. Is she supposed to be a leader for a gang? As @Emperor Mingmentioned, she's the de facto Planetary Governor. To get a better idea of what she should look like, have a look at her real miniature here: Lady Haera Helmawr Emperor Ming 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383212-lady-haera-helmawr-in-spyrer-suit/#findComment-6048856 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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