[BC] The Blackest Heart (OOC)

[Lysimachus]

@Necronaut I don't think so.

 

The Actions are for the Horde and the Laser Hybrid that are Engaged with Kraggan.

 

Ukalegon is Engaged with the other Hybrid that left the Horde (which hasn't acted yet, it seems?)

 

Start of R2 is something like this (I think? Mazer can correct me if I've got any of that wrong!)

 

 

 

Edited February 15 by Lysimachus

[Necronaut]

Okay that was my mistake -- I completely misread Mazer's post. Thanks for the clarification & battle map. Much obliged.

 

Edit: @Mazer Rackham also if the ccw hybrid is detached from the horde, I wouldn't need to muck about with a called shot, would I (save for potentially increased lethality)?

Edited February 15 by Necronaut

[Mazer Rackham]

1 hour ago, Lysimachus said:

@Necronaut I don't think so.

 

1 The Actions are for the Horde and the Laser Hybrid that are Engaged with Kraggan.

 

2 Ukalegon is Engaged with the other Hybrid that left the Horde (which hasn't acted yet, it seems?)

 

3 Start of R2 is something like this (I think? Mazer can correct me if I've got any of that wrong!)

 

Two Three Four Five things here:

1. Correct
2. I forgot about the CCW Hybrid in melee with Uke. The rule stands for me as it doth for thee - I forgot, so too bad, we've moved on.
3. Correct
4. I appreciate these addendums to the map - much obliged Mr @Lysimachus
5. I am strangely amused by that little trolley. I find it quite endearing, and offer to motorise it as a mount for Xerxes.

 

1 hour ago, Necronaut said:

Edit: @Mazer Rackham also if the ccw hybrid is detached from the horde, I wouldn't need to muck about with a called shot, would I (save for potentially increased lethality)?

 

As previously advised, the Hybrid dancing with you is out of Cohesion with the horde, and therefore stabby stabby bashy bashy in the normal manner can be applied.

 

Edited February 15 by Mazer Rackham

[Necronaut]

Thanks, sorry for all of the questions. I'm juggling a lot IRL and don't want to get all of the details of this combat muddled up.

[Mazer Rackham]

6 minutes ago, Necronaut said:

Thanks, sorry for all of the questions. I'm juggling a lot IRL and don't want to get all of the details of this combat muddled up.

 

No sweat, fella.

 

We shall forego the ritual beating until you're sorted out.

 

The hair shirt is non-negotiable, though.

[Trokair]

@Mazer Rackham, as Tarh is pinned and in cover, can I use his Half Action to start a First Aid Medica?

I know normaly Medicae is a full action, but could it be split into a half action now and a half action next turn. 

[Lysimachus]

Question for Hagga's Actions: having moved forward last Round, has he got close enough to pull off a Charge into Horde 2?

 

Using Kraggan's trick of charging into the space at the far (lower) end of the cogitators, that is.

 

 

[Mazer Rackham]

18 minutes ago, Trokair said:

@Mazer Rackham, as Tarh is pinned and in cover, can I use his Half Action to start a First Aid Medica?

I know normaly Medicae is a full action, but could it be split into a half action now and a half action next turn. 

 

I see no problem there.

 

At the end of your Turn, you take your snap-out test (WP+30) to get unpinned.

 

17 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

Question for Hagga's Actions: having moved forward last Round, has he got close enough to pull off a Charge into Horde 2?

 

If your Charge range is 20m ish, should be ok. You'll eat a close range Overwatch, but should be fine.

[Lysimachus]

4 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

If your Charge range is 20m ish, should be ok. You'll eat a close range Overwatch, but should be fine.

 

 

Ah, Charge Range of 15m, so probably not quite there yet. I'll keeping moving through the cylinders and lob another grenade in, I guess? 

[Lysimachus]

If Cyrandras is still being autopiloted, can I suggest a Charge vs the Hybrid fighting Ukelegon?

 

Between Charge* and Ganging Up bonuses, plus its Dodge is now used, so its a solid chance of Force Swording it into bits...?

 

 

 

 

 

Side point: BC Rules Question: you can either Standard Attack, Swift Attack, or All Out Attack as part of a Charge, right? (Pg235) So, you should get the Charge Bonus, plus the mod for the specific Attack type?

 

So a Charge with a Standard Attack is actually +30 (+20 +10), a Charge with a Swift Attack is +20 (+20 +0), and an All Out Attack is +40 (+20 +20) (but you can't Evade).

 

Is that right?

 

Edited February 15 by Lysimachus

[Mazer Rackham]

9 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

If Cyrandras is still being autopiloted, can I suggest a Charge vs the Hybrid fighting Ukelegon?

 

Between Charge* and Ganging Up bonuses, plus its Dodge is now used, so its a solid chance of Force Swording it into bits...?

 

He's on half-autopilot, so we will wait until the end of this round segment and see what the Player decides.

 

9 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

BC Rules Question: you can either Standard Attack, Swift Attack, or All Out Attack as part of a Charge, right? (Pg235)

 

Looks right.

 

9 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

So, you should get the Charge Bonus, plus (or minus) the mod for the specific Attack type?

 

No. The Charge gives no Bonus.

 

9 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

So a Charge with a Standard Attack is actually +30 (+20 +10), a Charge with a Swift Attack is +20 (+20 +0), and an All Out Attack is +40 (+20 +20) (but you can't Evade).

 

Not quite - As above Charge gives no bonus, sooo:

• Charge + Std Attack = +10
• Charge + Swift Attack = +0
• Charge + AoA = +20

 

Edited February 15 by Mazer Rackham

[Lysimachus]

But the table on pg236 says Charge gets +20 WS?

 

Edit: Which must be a flat bonus, as it doesn't specify which attack type you're using?

 

 

Edited February 15 by Lysimachus

[Mazer Rackham]

I double-checked the Errata:

 

Charge (page 235): Replace the action’s description with: “The character rushes at his target and delivers a single melee attack. The target must be at least four metres away, but still within the attacker’s Charge Move (see Table 9-31: Structured Time Movement). The last four metres of the Charge must be in a straight line so the attacker can build speed and line up with his target. Once the attacker reaches his target, he may make a single Standard Attack at a +20 bonus (the +10 for Standard Attack is included). If the Charging character is unarmed, he can attempt to Grapple his opponent instead of inflicting Damage. See Grappling, page 237.”

 

Right, so the table is correct, the description is wrong. Never looked at the table.

 

EDIT: Ok, got it. The Errata replaces the Swift Attack and AoA portions altogether, so you can only SA at +20 off the Charge.

Edited February 15 by Mazer Rackham

[Lysimachus]

 Always check the Errata before asking daft questions, Si...

 

So, Charge cannot use Swift/AoA after all? You can only do a Standard Attack? So therefore each attack type is exactly what it says in its description:

 

Standard Attack +10

Charge +20 (or +10 +10)

Swift +0

Lightning -10

AoA +20

 

Never mind, ignore me, we're all good...

Edited February 15 by Lysimachus

[Machine God]

Ouch 

 

Kraggan is on:

 

13 Damage, Pen 4 to Head = Head AV 3 -4 = -1 or 0.

 

13 - 4 (TGH) = 9.

 

16 Wounds - 9 = 7 Wounds.

 

 

It matters not from whence the blood flows, Only that it flows!

 

 

 

[Mazer Rackham]

Did you try to Dodge?

 

Mortal PC's can Dodge Hordes. I think they can try to Dodge you too, but I'll have to check.

[Machine God]

7 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said:

Did you try to Dodge?

 

Mortal PC's can Dodge Hordes. I think they can try to Dodge you too, but I'll have to check.

Oops, I forgot that you put that in. I was reading the No Dodge or Parry text under Hordes

 

 

 

[Mazer Rackham]

5 minutes ago, Machine God said:

Oops, I forgot that you put that in. I was reading the No Dodge or Parry text under Hordes

 

No worries - although, I can't take credit, it's BC Core GM guidance. 

[Lysimachus]

Can Seryna have a reroll of that please? (Iron Discipline covers Wp tests for Fear and Pinning)

 

Can't get much worse than rolling a 97.

[Mazer Rackham]

29 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

Can Seryna have a reroll of that please? (Iron Discipline covers Wp tests for Fear and Pinning)

 

I will let you roll a D100, and post the result here. I will then compare this to Seryna's WP.

 

29 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

Can't get much worse than rolling a 97.

 

I'll wait....

 

Spoiler

• Please legs don't fail me now!
• Is that an iceberg?
• 'Sun's getting warm,' said Icarus..
• Anything but a 1!
• That's no moon!
• What are ya gonna do, kill me?

 

Edited Sunday at 05:46 PM by Mazer Rackham

[Necronaut]

29 minutes ago, Lysimachus said:

Can Seryna have a reroll of that please? (Iron Discipline covers Wp tests for Fear and Pinning)

 

Can't get much worse than rolling a 97.

 

Ukalegon nearly showed how much worse it could get. 

[Mazer Rackham]

All I can guarantee is that she can't die of fright. The Test boosts her WP, and due to being a 'Heretic' when counting for such Tests, she can never max it out this time. She'd need to roll 100 and get something like 7 DoF, which she simply can't do.

[Lysimachus]

Okie dokie! d100 = 38

 

[shrug] That might still be a Fail, I suspect, but at least it makes the mod to whatever you rolled for the Shock test substantially lower...?

[Mazer Rackham]

Believe it or not - that's a pass.

 

By a hair's breadth, but it all counts, right? 

 

'No boom today. Boom tomorrow.' - Ivanova.

 

EDIT: I have shuffled Seryna into full cover, as there's not much more she can do. Uke's Hybrid is splat, gun is being worked on, no LoS to Horde 2, Kraggen is in Melee with Horde 1, ML Hybrid requires Called Shot. I can do a Half-Aim, if this is preferred, and wait for the next turn.

 

Edited Sunday at 06:04 PM by Mazer Rackham
Stuff

[Lysimachus]

Amazing! She's obviously stronger willed than your average NPC!

 

I don't know about anyone else, but that klaxon worries me. I'd rather she was focused on pulling the command centre door shut at the first sign of anyone coming along the corridor towards it...?