Mazer Rackham Posted Thursday at 04:35 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 04:35 PM 6 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: Is it: Kraggan's Fear test, then Turret Actions (is it still blinded by Xerxes' flashlight?), then Kraggan's Actions. All Fear Tests first, as they govern the Characters next action as per BC Core. 6 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: And Horde 1 is down to 2 Mag, and Horde 2 is down to 3 Mag. Are the Hybrids still able to hide behind them at this point? If you're toe-to-toe, no. Otherwise Roll 1D3 for Horde 1, and 1D4 for Horde 2. Called Shot will circumvent this, but rolling randomly for it could fish the hit, and is more realistic of the smaller numbers. This is to represent the Hanged Men dying for the love of their brood-betters, and their thinning out without forcing a penalty. Necronaut, Xin Ceithan and Lysimachus 1 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6095990 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted Thursday at 05:19 PM Share Posted Thursday at 05:19 PM 53 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: then Turret Actions (is it still blinded by Xerxes' flashlight? Should be. I am lining up to grenade it next action. Necronaut, Xin Ceithan, Mazer Rackham and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6095998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted Thursday at 06:57 PM Share Posted Thursday at 06:57 PM If it wasn't for the fact that we have flagged the Purple as Mutants and thus worthy of Hatred that colour is not too far away from The Lustful Hue. Trokair, Necronaut, Mazer Rackham and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xin Ceithan Posted Thursday at 07:04 PM Share Posted Thursday at 07:04 PM 3 minutes ago, Machine God said: If it wasn't for the fact that we have flagged the Purple as Mutants and thus worthy of Hatred that colour is not too far away from The Lustful Hue. We don’t talk about This particular hue… (Might sing about it, though …. ) Necronaut and Mazer Rackham 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted Thursday at 09:18 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:18 PM 5 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said: Son, in this game, Damnation is...Negotiable. So what you're saying is there's a chance? Mazer Rackham and Xin Ceithan 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted Thursday at 09:34 PM Share Posted Thursday at 09:34 PM (edited) 1 hour ago, Mazer Rackham said: GM: Tro - remember to take your action and shoot at someone... From the earlier post in this thread I though that, as I already acted in turn 3 before the fear test, the random shotting was my turn 4 action and on turn 5 I can atempt to snap out of it. Edited Thursday at 09:35 PM by Trokair Mazer Rackham, Lysimachus, Necronaut and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096037 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted Thursday at 10:14 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:14 PM Tro, don't argue! If you get offered a free shot - especially standing close to an enemy that has just lost its Horde cover and used its Dodge - take it quick before the GM notices!!! Xin Ceithan, Mazer Rackham, Necronaut and 1 other 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted Thursday at 10:32 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 10:32 PM (edited) WHATWHATWHATWHATWHATWHAT??? EDIT: In truth, I applaud Tro's integrity. The rest of you should be ashamed and have a cold shower... Edited Thursday at 11:07 PM by Mazer Rackham Necronaut, Xin Ceithan and Lysimachus 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 10 hours ago, Mazer Rackham said: EDIT: In truth, I applaud Tro's integrity. The rest of you should be ashamed and have a cold shower... If by integrity you meant confusion, then yes. So for clarity, I know what I am doing (attacking a random target while laughing hysterically), I am still hazy on the when... Mazer Rackham and Xin Ceithan 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted 18 hours ago Author Share Posted 18 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Trokair said: If by integrity you meant confusion, then yes. Want to know my secret? I'm always confused... 22 minutes ago, Trokair said: So for clarity, I know what I am doing (attacking a random target while laughing hysterically), I am still hazy on the when... For now Tro, don't worry about it. Just when your next turn pops up, just roll for Snap Out (WP +10, because of Xin's Character), and see what happens after that. Any use? Trokair, Machine God, Necronaut and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago @Mazer Rackham based on my rough maths, it looks like Horde 2 is down to mag 1 or 2. Is the horde still effectively screening the rock hammer hybrid, or would I need to roll a D3 in lieu of a called shot? Mazer Rackham and Xin Ceithan 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago I think Mazer already answered this one. In Melee, they are few enough to pick out the Hybrid without penalty. Horde 2 is at 3 Mag, I think(?) Necronaut, Mazer Rackham and Xin Ceithan 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted 8 hours ago Author Share Posted 8 hours ago (edited) 21 minutes ago, Necronaut said: @Mazer Rackham based on my rough maths, it looks like Horde 2 is down to mag 1 or 2. Is the horde still effectively screening the rock hammer hybrid, or would I need to roll a D3 in lieu of a called shot? Paraphrasing a post above: If you're toe-to-toe, no. Otherwise Roll 1D4 for Horde 2. Called Shot will circumvent this, but rolling randomly for it could fish the hit, and is more realistic of the smaller numbers. This is to represent the Hanged Men dying for the love of their brood-betters, (willing or not) and their thinning out without forcing a penalty on you. You may use Called Shot at -10 due to the fact there are only a couple of bodies. Ninja'd by Lysi, but amended to streamline. :) Edited 8 hours ago by Mazer Rackham Xin Ceithan and Necronaut 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Thanks I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096200 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machine God Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago It's a good job that Hybrid 1 has not stated a Target, as that could be a bit of hurt for Kraggan. Xin Ceithan and Necronaut 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096204 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted 7 hours ago Author Share Posted 7 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Machine God said: It's a good job that Hybrid 1 has not stated a Target, as that could be a bit of hurt for Kraggan. Who else is Hybrid 2 hitting? Necronaut and Xin Ceithan 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096208 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Question re the other fight, if Ukalegon is battling Hybrid 3 (RockHammer), can I assume Hybrid 4 (CCW) was attacking Hagga? Necronaut, Xin Ceithan and Mazer Rackham 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096217 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago Uh did Ukalegon just get killed by the CCW Hybrid? Actually scratch that -- he'd be at (does maths) 1 critical damage, I think. Mazer Rackham, Xin Ceithan and Lysimachus 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096218 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted 6 hours ago Author Share Posted 6 hours ago 17 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: Question re the other fight, if Ukalegon is battling Hybrid 3 (RockHammer), can I assume Hybrid 4 (CCW) was attacking Hagga? Yes, because you can't all die at once. .... .... Hmm. Necronaut, Lysimachus and Xin Ceithan 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 25 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: Yes, because you can't all die at once. .... .... Hmm. Speaking of that... @Machine God If you want my advice, take the knife attack and try to Dodge the hit from the Claw. You can survive the first, but not the second... Xin Ceithan, Mazer Rackham, Necronaut and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Adopting a Defensive Stance would also seem to be most prudent. Lysimachus and Xin Ceithan 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 10 minutes ago, Necronaut said: Adopting a Defensive Stance would also seem to be most prudent. That's probably an even better move than my suggestion... though not being able to attack doesn't seem very 'Kraggan'? Also, if the Hybrid gets shot/charged by someone else, and uses up its Reaction, Kraggan's axe might have the opportunity to give it the chop? Necronaut and Xin Ceithan 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096236 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago 34 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: @Machine God If you want my advice, take the knife attack and try to Dodge the hit from the Claw. You can survive the first, but not the second... Just as an aside on this, a convention I've always played by (and I think might be in the campaign rules, and have mentioned before a couple of times) is that when you Dodge, you discount Hits from newest to oldest, so if you were hit 5 times by a FAB, but score 3 DoS on your Evasion, it looks like this: Hit Hit Hit 3rd DoS Hit 2nd DoS Hit PASS/1 DoS So, essentially the claw strike is the only one that can be dodged. Necronaut, Lysimachus and Xin Ceithan 1 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 100% agree on this ^ with regard to FAB/SAB or Swift/Lightning Attacks... ...but in this case, where it is due to TWW or Multiple Arms, isn't it 2 distinct attacks (with different weapons) that happen at the same time, so you can choose which one you'd prefer to Dodge/Parry? @Machine God don't forget if you Parry with a Power weapon you have a 75% chance of destroying the enemy's weapon. As the Hybrid only has 1 Claw, that might be possible to be destroyed? (Chopping the claw off or whatever?) That might be a GM call, though... Mazer Rackham, Necronaut and Xin Ceithan 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 10 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: ...but in this case, where it is due to TWW or Multiple Arms, isn't it 2 distinct attacks (with different weapons) that happen at the same time, so you can choose which one you'd prefer to Dodge/Parry? An excellent question. I think there is a case here for choice, as the Attacks are discrete, why would you dodge the one that would hurt the least? Interesting. Yes, I think your proposal is better for Multiple/Discrete/Seperate Attacks. We shall proceed on that basis from now on - that a choice can be made on which Attack to Evade. 10 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: @Machine God don't forget if you Parry with a Power weapon you have a 75% chance of destroying the enemy's weapon. As the Hybrid only has 1 Claw, that might be possible to be destroyed? (Chopping the claw off or whatever?) That might be a GM call, though... I'll have to check. I think it counts as Deadly Natural Weapons, which IIRC are not destroyed by power fields. EDIT: Yes, Natural Weapons and Deadly Natural Weapons cannot be removed by a Power Field. You want rid of the claw, you'll have to Called Shot the arm. Edited 5 hours ago by Mazer Rackham Xin Ceithan, Necronaut and Machine God 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383216-bc-the-blackest-heart-ooc/page/51/#findComment-6096242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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