Chalnath Dispatches: Teaser of things to come?

[Hfran Morkai]

18 hours ago, Indy Techwisp said:

 

I gotta say.
I made this as a joke at how GW focus way too much on Kroot when regarding T'au auxiliaries to the near exclusion of Vespids or any other Canon auxiliaries, but I'm surprised at how many people have expressed that they'd actually be pleased to see winged kroot.

 

The Chapter Approved army list was awesome, with different Kin having different rules. The Kroot refresh was incredible,  I love the models and when I can hobby I'm looking forward to building my army box.

 

I'm pretty sure the Vespid weren't a thing when the army list came out, so I'd imagine we're more likely to see Vespid than winged Kroot (I'd happily take both! But I do think Vespid should be over Kroot, to give the idea of an alliance of species).

Edited July 28 by Hfran Morkai

[soviet1337]

It would be easy enough to convert some kroot to count them as vespid, tarellians, cyberbicycle riding fishmen, etc

[Tastyfish]

1 hour ago, HeadlessCross said:

I've never heard of the Galg. 

I think they were first mentioned in the 5th ed codex (I think as a race initially that many recoil from but who had been brought into the Empire alongside a bunch fo other 3d sphere races - possibly after the little mind worm Nagi joined and made 'communication' a lot easier).

 

Lexicanum then says that there's an Alpha legion book (Sons of the Hydra) that covers a bunch of these guys in more detail, as a group of species who had been nearly wiped out by the Imperium coming together to get revenge.

 

They'd be particularly interesting alongside someone like the Tarrelians in that they're a bit like the Kroot - whilst most are allied with the Tau it's not universal, and others can be found in mercenary bands willing to work with anyone with an axe to grind against the Imperium. 

 

Edited July 28 by Tastyfish

[Indy Techwisp]

I hope we get Tarellian Dog Soldiers sooner rather than later.

[soviet1337]

Is part of the problem that modern 40k is so upgunned and Apocalypsed that small scale differences between parrot men, dog men, bug men and fish men, all holding basic rifles, don't have the same weight anymore? 
 

(I haven't played for several editions btw) 

[ThePenitentOne]

4 hours ago, soviet1337 said:

Is part of the problem that modern 40k is so upgunned and Apocalypsed that small scale differences between parrot men, dog men, bug men and fish men, all holding basic rifles, don't have the same weight anymore? 
 

(I haven't played for several editions btw) 

 

If so, I think the issue has more to do with the 2000 point pick-up scene. A great many 40k units, and in particular those that start as Kill Team boxes, are perfect for small narrative armies. In a 500 point game, variance between units really shines, and unit duplication is not as much of an option.

 

The issue is that for so many people, it isn't 40k if it isn't 2k points- and for some people, there is literally no other option that 2k pick-up games at stores. From my perspective, this is sad; there is so much more to this game than 2k matched, and from what I see on the forums, very few players will ever experience it. The conversation about narrative escalation is as non-existent as the conversation about 2k Matched play pick-up games is ubiquitous.

 

And that's not a GW problem. No rule will ever make it go away.

 

Note: Seeing GW's plans for a Boarding Action book IS GW trying hard to facilitate alternative game sizes. Crusade is GW's effort to different game modes. Both of these efforts indicate that GW is trying to give people alternatives to 2k Match pick-up/ stand-alone games. Many of the things that people describe as bloat in the 2k matched scene far more meaning the farther away from that mold you choose to stray.

 

I'd like to see GW release a 3k game supplement this edition to offer some systemic hooks that facilitate play at that level.

 

Chalnath could be an amazing little narrative Zone; the Sisters and Tau are there, and there's Cult activity all over the place- from the GSC to the humans that have been swayed by the Greater Good. There's a lot of play there, and I don't know that exclusively 2k games fully explores the potential. 

[LSM]

8 hours ago, Tastyfish said:

...Lexicanum then says that there's an Alpha legion book (Sons of the Hydra) that covers a bunch of these guys in more detail, as a group of species who had been nearly wiped out by the Imperium coming together to get revenge...

 

I wouldn't call this accurate. Sons of the Hydra briefly mentions an Alpha Legion force that's using a wide variety of Xenos mercenaries. But that's it; there's no details given, it's just some name drops IIRC.

Edited July 29 by LSM

[Ripper.McGuirl]

On 7/28/2024 at 9:10 PM, ThePenitentOne said:

 

If so, I think the issue has more to do with the 2000 point pick-up scene. A great many 40k units, and in particular those that start as Kill Team boxes, are perfect for small narrative armies. In a 500 point game, variance between units really shines, and unit duplication is not as much of an option.

 

The issue is that for so many people, it isn't 40k if it isn't 2k points- and for some people, there is literally no other option that 2k pick-up games at stores. From my perspective, this is sad; there is so much more to this game than 2k matched, and from what I see on the forums, very few players will ever experience it. The conversation about narrative escalation is as non-existent as the conversation about 2k Matched play pick-up games is ubiquitous.

 

And that's not a GW problem. No rule will ever make it go away.

 

Note: Seeing GW's plans for a Boarding Action book IS GW trying hard to facilitate alternative game sizes. Crusade is GW's effort to different game modes. Both of these efforts indicate that GW is trying to give people alternatives to 2k Match pick-up/ stand-alone games. Many of the things that people describe as bloat in the 2k matched scene far more meaning the farther away from that mold you choose to stray.

 

I'd like to see GW release a 3k game supplement this edition to offer some systemic hooks that facilitate play at that level.

 

Chalnath could be an amazing little narrative Zone; the Sisters and Tau are there, and there's Cult activity all over the place- from the GSC to the humans that have been swayed by the Greater Good. There's a lot of play there, and I don't know that exclusively 2k games fully explores the potential. 

This is a really great summary and insight, and is true of Heresy as well.

[TheMawr]

So one thing I noticed in both stories is that the obvious "flying" units each are sent to support elements that have a more mysterious air about them ( constantly called [redacted] in imperium side and references to xenocult saboteurs and auxilieries in general on the tau side.) this doesnt mean much on its own, but it got me wondering if the flying elements is a plus element, and not the whole element.

 

For a more direct example what I mean, what if the starterbox isnt Jetpack scions vs Vespids, so everyone flying, but rather, 5 jetpack scions + 10 Catachans (for example) vs 5 Vespids + 10 Gue'vesa

With those flying units and every other being additions to the still traditional 10 man killteams, instead of replacements.

 

This setup would be a bit more logical gameplay wise, marketingwise, fit the 2 short stories and makes more sense of Valraks random "Next Kill Team is going to be fire, a lot of people will be buying this one!" remark. As honestly, 2 flyer teams against each other are rather niche, but if those are supplement by a (any) new guard regiment and guevesa.. then yes, thats one high demand set.

 

 

Edited August 2 by TheMawr

[Wormwoods]

@TheMawr, I live in hope.

[sairence]

It would be really cool, but I can't see GW putting what would amount to 4 new kits into a single box. I'll be happy to be wrong on this though. 

[skylerboodie]

15 minutes ago, sairence said:

It would be really cool, but I can't see GW putting what would amount to 4 new kits into a single box. I'll be happy to be wrong on this though. 

Blood of the Phoenix box did have 4 new kits (if you include characters):

• Jain Zar
• Howling Banshees
• Drazhar
• Incubus

Plus a bunch of existing ones (Falcon, Vyper, Hellions, Scourges, Venom). So, whilst perhaps unlikely, there is a precedent.

Edited August 2 by skylerboodie
typo

[ZeroWolf]

1 hour ago, skylerboodie said:

Blood of the Phoenix box did have 4 new kits (if you include characters):

• Jain Zar
• Howling Banshees
• Drazhar
• Incubus

Plus a bunch of existing ones (Falcon, Vyper, Hellions, Scourges, Venom). So, whilst perhaps unlikely, there is a precedent.

Problem there is a) that was prior to 2020 and b) is was part of big 40k and not the new 2021 KT system (where you got two brand new units at season launch and then one brand new unit and upgrade sprue there after).

 

I'm not saying it could never happen but set all expectations low to the ground as you can possibly get.

[TheMawr]

3 hours ago, sairence said:

It would be really cool, but I can't see GW putting what would amount to 4 new kits into a single box. I'll be happy to be wrong on this though. 

 

https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/necromunda-hive-secundus-2024?queryID=2bc1abfa526f8357df59cc08f16e291b

 

I think this is the closest comparable recent precedent

 

edit:

That said, its a speculative thought. Not an expectation, nor really a hope. as personally of that list only vespid interests me.

Edited August 2 by TheMawr

[ZeroWolf]

4 minutes ago, TheMawr said:

 

https://www.warhammer.com/en-GB/shop/necromunda-hive-secundus-2024?queryID=2bc1abfa526f8357df59cc08f16e291b

 

I think this is the closest comparable recent precedent

 

edit:

That said, its a speculative thought. Not an expectation, nor really a hope. as personally of that list only vespid interests me.

Same, I'd love new plastic vespid. Though technically if GW ever went down the human auxiliaries for Tau, I'd predict they'd be handled like Brood brothers (I.e. cadian sprues and upgrade sprues)

[Jscarlos18]

Even though I don't play T'au, I hope the rumour of Vespids is true and GW does a big expansion of the race in 11th like they did with Kroot this edition after giving them a Kill Team.

[Dark Shepherd]

New dispatch article up featuring ORKS

 

Da text

 

Spoiler

Super weapon mentioned as having God like proportions, am calling it now, Impertaor Titan, or something titan related

 

Edited August 9 by Dark Shepherd

[Indy Techwisp]

If this truly is the Season of Sky as rumoured, then I'd say today's article bodes well for updated Stormboys to be included.

[TrawlingCleaner]

A Titan in Killteam seems like a balanced thing to add

[01RTB01]

Just now, Indy Techwisp said:

If this truly is the Season of Sky as rumoured, then I'd say today's article bodes well for updated Stormboys to be included.

 

The article would suggest an upgrade sprue for the kommandos but I guess we'll see "soon".

 

Regardless, it suggest orks will get something new before 11th Ed. 

[Indy Techwisp]

1 minute ago, 01RTB01 said:

The article would suggest an upgrade sprue for the kommandos but I guess we'll see "soon".

 

Regardless, it suggest orks will get something new before 11th Ed. 

 

I'm more meaning that the presence of an Orks article implies an Ork presence.

Also the Goffs get a lot of Stormboyz iirc and the Kommando Nob is scouting out a target for the Goffs Warboss' Ladz to krump.

[Dark Shepherd]

19 minutes ago, TrawlingCleaner said:

A Titan in Killteam seems like a balanced thing to add

Theyre a model company first :)

[LSM]

1 hour ago, TrawlingCleaner said:

A Titan in Killteam seems like a balanced thing to add

 

What if it's a Killteam season on/in a Titan?

[DemonGSides]

Yeah a Titan provides a very convenient "Vertical" type of board to fight over.

If they release terrain that's just like a quarter of a Titan and the gantries/scaffolding around it, that'd be pretty freaking cool.

[Dark Shepherd]

I think when Imperators came out for Epic they carried or could carry companies of Guard in their legs

Warlords used to have Corvus Assault Pods where they could punch 4 stands of Terminators into a building

 

As said above, Titan terrain/backdrop/setting would be awesome

 

@Chapter Master Valrak have you any rumours on this?