Nephaston Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 Honestly, give the Reivers full jump packs, it might be enough to make the unit worth while I'd rather they fuse Reivers and Infiltrators/Incursors into one kit, save a bit of shelf space. And then turn vanguard vets into a phobos unit for the vanguard² meme. Especially if they get to use kayvaan shrike style jump pack (though that might just be me) and are blinged out like like crazy (pplus some beaky heads). LSM 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 GW are racing to remove finecast and forgeworld resin from the main game. Its really strange, why and why now, resin has been fine (ish) for ages and even more strange, many of the old world new units are resin Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mittens Posted August 11 Share Posted August 11 Its really strange, why and why now, resin has been fine (ish) for ages and even more strange, many of the old world new units are resin I think a lot of people don't like working with resin, and their quality control is really bad with resin. All fine cast, and I mean all, that I bought had issues, usually big issues, and insane flash. Most foreworld, and I had an entire Krieg army and most of their admech stuff and Necron stuff, had significant issues, some to the point that it didn't get built. I, for one, am excited for the shift to resin. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055538 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 I think one of the main reason that Old World, Horus Hersey, all the specialist games keep getting resin releases mixed in with their plastics is because they're aimed at more veteran hobbyists computer to AoS/40k. - I hope this season of kill team gets 4 boxes this time round, as that'll give them more room to play with units wise. Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055544 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Its really strange, why and why now, resin has been fine (ish) for ages and even more strange, many of the old world new units are resin Finecast resin is certainly not. FW resin has been fine for a long time. Old world new units makes sense as resin is cheaper in every respect compared with plastics, especially if they're a gamble. skylerboodie 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephaston Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 I think one of the main reason that Old World, Horus Hersey, all the specialist games keep getting resin releases mixed in with their plastics is because they're aimed at more veteran hobbyists computer to AoS/40k. Plus resin is comparatively fast to push out, as seen with the second iteration of the imperial fist terminator praetor, and the redesigned space wolf MkVI helmets, as well as preferable to predictably low quantity wares. A hundred people starting heresy for instance will probably buy multiple tactical squads, weapon upgrades and vehicles each but a amongst those hundred you might just sell a handful of traitor champion consuls, or maybe ten librarian consuls. One or two people might go for a set of ultramarine deimos rhino doors for every rhino they have, while another might just get one set and a command rhino upgrade. For those options resin is absolutely fine, even if some feel like a stopgap solution like the despoiler squad upgrade set. ZeroWolf and Lord Marshal 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055550 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 This could be an awesome season: Potential Remakes: - Raptors - Swooping Hawks - Stormboyz - Custodes Venatari - Vanguard Vets New Units - Votann Jumps Don't forget Space marine suppressors that could be given a multi part kit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Rumour mill says they have improved it. Now included is the "Square Root" icon which says the Range is 4" but only on a sunny day. Otherwise the range is 2. Don´t they have grappling hooks in the game? I never understood why the shape with 1 side didn't represent 1", and either have increaseing sides = increasing inches, or have the 3 sided shape as 3". ThaneOfTas, LameBeard, Deus_Ex_Machina and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Feels too soon for a jump Deathwatch killteam, and Skyclaws dont strike me as being popular enough, Admech and Sisters recently got jump troops, SoS's USP doesnt translate to Kill Team, Assault Inceptors seem too elite or low model count Could be a fairly Xenos/Chaos focused KT edition/year (which is no bad thing) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remain_Indoors Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 I thought there was a full Navy Fleet detachment now tho. I'm guessing the army is unfieldable now because Voidsmen-at-Arms gave their Battleline keyword to Navis Breachers and went down to a 5man+1dog unit max? Yup, I had 6 full squads of 10 and their dogs. Now I can field 15 of them if I abide by the crapulent army building rules. Rewatching the teaser and I’d say it’s definitely the rumoured Scions, the wrist screen makes it pretty clear. Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deus_Ex_Machina Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 I propose following map to make full use of jump pack troops fighting each other: Water board with a dozen platforms rising out of the water. Add a couple of walkways to connect the platforms. The water is infested with sharks which have lascannons strapped to their backs so every model who ends up in the water is removed from play. Nah, on second thought don´t be silly here. Make this twin-linked lascannons. It´s 40K after all. Xenith, MithrilForge, LSM and 3 others 1 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055572 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaneOfTas Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 SoS's USP doesnt translate to Kill Team I'm not sure i follow, assuming that USP stands for Unique selling point/proposition then i would argue that the faction who routinely deploys in small groups to hunt down psychic threats would work fine in KillTeam Dark Shepherd, Xenith and LSM 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055583 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChapterMasterGodfrey Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 I just hope this results in new Vanguard Veterans. As for Kill Team, itself... I LOVED 1st Ed. I loved how quick it was, and I loved being able to mix and match models to make up my team. I don't like symbols and the bloated unit stats and I don't like being told what models I have to pick in my team. Hopefully a move back towards 1st Ed would get me to play. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055591 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 I'm not sure i follow, assuming that USP stands for Unique selling point/proposition then i would argue that the faction who routinely deploys in small groups to hunt down psychic threats would work fine in KillTeam Id agree with your summation of then in general, maybe I should have said 40k USP; my logic was Kill Team is not psyker or psychic heavy Itd be a clunky narrative if it was Anti Psykers v Stormboyz, but when has that stopped GW before. And the 40k rules for them would be different to Kill Team, its another unit for the thin Custodes codex...SoS are back on the menu :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted August 12 Author Share Posted August 12 Man, Vespid move fast. ThaneOfTas, skylerboodie, LSM and 2 others 3 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055594 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 The wings look organic so they're almost certainly vespid. But one long shot could be Eldar based off this Rogue Trader art. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bev'an Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Sure looks like Vespid to me, that looks like a neutron blaster too… ZeroWolf, phandaal, MithrilForge and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Man, Vespid move fast. Where's this video come from? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Where's this video come from? Click the 'Watch on youtube' button and it takes you to the video, where you can then see what channel posted it :) skylerboodie 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfTheLion Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Option 4, although it'll likely get further communication in WarCom and all later. They've been doing this quite often recently. skylerboodie 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted August 12 Author Share Posted August 12 Option 4, although it'll likely get further communication in WarCom and all later. They've been doing this quite often recently. It's generally what they tend to do for random trailer snippets. Or the preview countdown posts. Drop it on platform x y or z, then move on to the following day. WarCom communication will be the actual preview announcement, which they mentioned yesterday. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Option 4, although it'll likely get further communication in WarCom and all later. They've been doing this quite often recently. Having just been able to do a check, it was posted an hour ago to both Facebook and Twitter at the same time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 So how long till Valrak returns with a "there it is" gif again? I hope he keeps on that sources good side as they're fire when it comes to rumours. Can't wait to get a good look at the vespid. MithrilForge and Kastor Krieg 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 Reveal on Saturday. firestorm40k, TrawlingCleaner, MithrilForge and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormwoods Posted August 12 Share Posted August 12 'Buzz' indeed. MithrilForge, Marshal Reinhard and Dark Shepherd 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383453-operation-hivestorm-preview-17082024/page/3/#findComment-6055739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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