Doobles57 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 So, I've been looking at the pictures of the Universal/Generic Equipment and trying to work out what there's going to be available to everyone in the game: So, there appears to be: - Barricades (same as current edition) - Razorwire (guess it slows movement) - Reinforced walls(?) - Shield of somesort(?) - Smoke grenade (affects line of sight, presumably) - flare/smoke signal (presumably used when deploying specific 'deep striking' operatives) - mines - ammo cache - grenades - scanner - portable ladders The grenades are actually a useful idea for this game - although loads of 40k miniatures are modeled with grenades on them, only certain operatives in Kill Team can take them, and it can be tricky to remember which specific one you've paid to have grenades! Also, there's 4 different types, so be interesting to see what the other two are (besides frag and krak, which are a given ) The design of one of the grenades matches the smoke and flare ones. Not sure on the other. firestorm40k 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
firestorm40k Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 The design of one of the grenades matches the smoke and flare ones. Not sure on the other. Well spotted, that does appear to be correct! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkhorse0607 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Slightly off topic but Are they ever planning on releasing the Night Lords, Mandrakes, GSC and whatever the fourth one was? They're already talking about the new edition on WHC this week, but there are four teams that are going on six months since their boxes that haven't come out yet Sorry. I've just been waiting for the Night Lords and it's getting really old MithrilForge, LSM and LightningClawLeonard 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ripper.McGuirl Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Are they ever planning on releasing the Night Lords, Mandrakes, GSC and whatever the fourth one was? I’d assume they were holding off until the new edition. It’s possible they didnt want to do another print run of the books for those teams and so just didnt release them separately. Bev'an 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentOne Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 I hope we see some articles about edition differences this week, but considering that the preorder is a month away and BA go up next week, I expect Warcom to be little more than wall to wall marine content all week. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
01RTB01 Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 I hope we see some articles about edition differences this week, but considering that the preorder is a month away and BA go up next week, I expect Warcom to be little more than wall to wall marine content all week. Based on this https://www.warhammer-community.com/2024/08/18/operation-hivestorm-the-ultimate-sting-operation/ I think you may be surprised. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastyfish Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 So, I've been looking at the pictures of the Universal/Generic Equipment and trying to work out what there's going to be available to everyone in the game: So, there appears to be: - Barricades (same as current edition) - Razorwire (guess it slows movement) - Reinforced walls(?) - Shield of somesort(?) - Smoke grenade (affects line of sight, presumably) - flare/smoke signal (presumably used when deploying specific 'deep striking' operatives) - mines - ammo cache - grenades - scanner - portable ladders The grenades are actually a useful idea for this game - although loads of 40k miniatures are modeled with grenades on them, only certain operatives in Kill Team can take them, and it can be tricky to remember which specific one you've paid to have grenades! Also, there's 4 different types, so be interesting to see what the other two are (besides frag and krak, which are a given ) Barricades - light cover Razorwire - expect it requires an extra 2" movement to cross Heavy Barricade - heavy cover Mantlet/Door shield etc - no idea. Might be a cheaper heavy cover bit of equipment that can shield one operative rather than 2-3 like the barricades/heavy barricades I think the red and white smoke are both just smoke grenades but colour coded for the two teams. Grenades are Frag (black), Krak (round silver), Smoke (red) and Stun (presumably blue) - they mentioned these as the generic grenades that the Aquilon grenadier has access to along with their fancy melta bomb. firestorm40k and tinpact 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
excelite Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 I hope they put up a couple articles about the PvE part, sounds really interesting and feels a little like the big selling point of this edition. would also be fun to have one or two PvE boxsets in an ashes of faith style each season. Doctor Perils, ZeroWolf, Flaherty and 2 others 1 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redsun Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Looks like the 'old' barricades might have had a slight improvement: there's little feet at the back which should help it stand up better tinpact and INKS 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
INKS Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Looks like the 'old' barricades might have had a slight improvement: there's little feet at the back which should help it stand up better Yes. someone else I was watching mentioned this as well, a welcomed change. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flaherty Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 I hope they put up a couple articles about the PvE part, sounds really interesting and feels a little like the big selling point of this edition. would also be fun to have one or two PvE boxsets in an ashes of faith style each season. Totally agree! I've been playing the Space Marine Adventures game with my eight-year-old, and it's a much better way to introduce someone to the universe. I liked the comment they made about the unpleasant asymmetry of a person with 150 games under their belt just crushing a total noob. Even if you want to hook them and go easy, it's often hard to do so – muscle memory is too strong. ThaneOfTas, INKS and Magos Takatus 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magos Takatus Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Even if you want to hook them and go easy, it's often hard to do so – muscle memory is too strong. You just couldn't stop rolling sixes could you? You monster. MithrilForge, Antarius, Dark Shepherd and 1 other 1 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 As this is a new edition box is it expected to stay in production for a while or to be a one and done FOMO release? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted August 19 Author Share Posted August 19 As this is a new edition box is it expected to stay in production for a while or to be a one and done FOMO release? I expect it'll be a FOMO box if Octarius was any indication, however since the latest KT box (Termination) is still readily available most places I hope they'll have a decent amount of stock for this as well. Flaherty, Blurgh and MithrilForge 1 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSM Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 I'd expect Hivestorm to be limited, but (as it's a new edition) there to then be a new Starter Set in the form of a stripped-down version of Hivestorm. ThaneOfTas, DemonGSides, ZeroWolf and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057875 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doobles57 Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 So the massive gun from the trailer is called the Massif Ballistus......little bit on the nose? Sarges, CL_Mission, ThaneOfTas and 2 others 1 2 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarges Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 So the massive gun from the trailer is called the Massif Ballistus......little bit on the nose? Petitioner's City, ZeroWolf, phandaal and 18 others 3 17 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057884 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CL_Mission Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 So the massive gun from the trailer is called the Massif Ballistus......little bit on the nose? If only we could return to the days of GW's subtle names and titles like the Space Wolves' Wolf Guard member Canis Wolfborn Ayatollah_of_Rock_n_Rolla, ThaneOfTas, Sarges and 11 others 14 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 If only we could return to the days of GW's subtle names and titles like the Space Wolves' Wolf Guard member Canis Wolfborn To be fair, GW peaked with names when they did Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau back in Rogue Trader tinpact, CL_Mission, Interrogator Stobz and 5 others 5 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 To be fair, GW peaked with names when they did Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau back in Rogue Trader How about the Tech-priest Wilhelm Gaytes? I wish we could go back to unique names like Azrael, Ezekiel, Abaddon, Ahriman, Armageddon, Prospero, Sabbat, Dante, Corbulo, Tycho... Or like the entire Eldar scheme of slightly altered Celtic. ZeroWolf, DemonGSides, CL_Mission and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptix Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 Can't forget classics like Ferrus Manus, primarch of the Iron Hands, who has Iron Hands. firestorm40k, Oxydo, ZeroWolf and 6 others 5 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057944 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 I have spent the time since the reveal endlessly chanting "please don't mess the new edition up" in my head. That's not weird, right? I'm also genuinely relieved that people generally seem to like the new Scions - as perhaps the only person in the world who thought the originals were much cooler than the Kasrkin and Stormtroopers*, I was honestly expecting to read page after page of vitriol. I agree that these new ones look better, and I think largely that's down to the better proportions and slightly less chunky looking armour. *Before everyone gets mad, this is not a knock on the coolness of either Kasrkin or Inquisitorial Stormtroopers, I just personally like the Scions more. Special forces dudes with hi-tech futuristic gear, fancy berets of distinction and clunky medieval breastplates? That's my kind of 40K, for sure. Noserenda, sitnam, firestorm40k and 8 others 6 4 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6057979 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitnam Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) as perhaps the only person in the world who thought the originals were much cooler than the Kasrkin and Stormtroopers Nope, I always loved Scions the best as well. The techno medieval armor does it for.me Edited August 19 by sitnam Gamiel, Ace Debonair, SteveAntilles and 1 other 3 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6058020 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 or Inquisitorial Stormtroopers, Not to knock you in particular - but can we stop calling the third edition metal stormtrooprs "Inquisitorial Stormtroopers" when they were released as Imperial Guard stormtroopers, and remained that in the catalogues, even when repainted for Codex Daemonhunters as Inquisitorial equivalents. skylerboodie, firestorm40k, ThaneOfTas and 9 others 6 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6058021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace Debonair Posted August 19 Share Posted August 19 (edited) My apologies, I was simply using the name I'm most familiar with for those models. In any event, now that Scions and Kasrkin have some updated and really rad models, I look forward to the day we see the classic Stormtroopers - with whichever name or faction affiliation they wind up being given - getting sweet new models too. ...Maybe Kill Team '27 will have Stormtroopers vs the Slicing Orbs of Zandros or something equally wild for the launch box Edited August 20 by Ace Debonair Typo, and forgot a word, and ANOTHER Typo Magos Takatus, Petitioner's City and Doctor Perils 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/383502-kill-team-hivestorm-new-edition/page/3/#findComment-6058092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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