Guardsmen with shotguns

[TheArtilleryman]

So I have randomly acquired a sealed set of Forge World upgrade parts for Cadian veterans with shotguns among a big eBay box of mostly Horus Heresy stuff. Problem is, by the looks of things there are only four torso and arm sets (plus one loose shotgun), so not enough for a ten man squad, and I also can’t see shotguns as an option for any unit n the Index anymore.

 

One thought I had was just to make a command squad with them and proxy for lasguns, but I thought I’d ask you good folks here if you had any ideas what else I could do with them or what unit they could represent. Feel free to conjecture right out of the box because I’m really interested in any possibilities and don’t mind some proper kitbashing. I’ve got a bunch of old-style plastic Cadian infantry I can use to do something with them.

 

I’ll add a photo later of what I’ve got in the pack.

 

Thanks in advance!

Edited September 21, 2024 by TheArtilleryman

[Marshall Bretton]

Yeah shotguns used to be an option for veteran units but that went a long time ago. There were also krieg engineers who had shotguns as well. One of the guesses is that unit will be coming back when the full krieg release comes next year so you could make a 5 man engineer unit in the hope of that?

 

You could also do a 5 man squad for counts as tempestus scions, try and give them a bit more armour and have the shotguns as counts as hotshot lasguns

[calgar101]

Yeah counts as Scions but modeled as an elite Imperial Navy team? 

[Wormwoods]

Use them to make a weird little INQ28 retinue for an Inquisitor. 

[Lord_Ikka]

They could be a squad of house guards for Necromunda, a sort of Enforcer-style gang.

[W.A.Rorie]

Cadian version of Iron hand Straken and his A-Team …but I like the scion idea 

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

Imperial agents have a few shotgun armed options you could build them as.

 

or just hold off until January or February and see what we get for options in the new codex.

[TheArtilleryman]

Hmm some interesting ideas here, thanks guys! The Imperial Agents thing is an interesting idea - looking at the datasheets it looks like you can build a unit equipped with just “inquisitorial ranged weapons” with a generic profile, so that might work as a retinue for the Inquisitor that I have leading my Imperial Guard…

 

Won’t pull the trigger on these just yet, but that’s my favourite idea so far!

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

 

Hmm some interesting ideas here, thanks guys! The Imperial Agents thing is an interesting idea - looking at the datasheets it looks like you can build a unit equipped with just “inquisitorial ranged weapons” with a generic profile, so that might work as a retinue for the Inquisitor that I have leading my Imperial Guard…

 

Won’t pull the trigger on these just yet, but that’s my favourite idea so far!

I think the navy squad, breachers(?) can be armed all with shotguns

[Lord_Ikka]

Naval Breachers or Arbites are armed with shotguns- the Arbites Vindicator/Exaction squads have some heavy/special weapons while the Breachers have a shield-bearer, heavy weapon trooper, and some melee options. Both are 10-man squads (11 for Arbites including a canine).

 

Inquisitorial Agents are a 6-man crew that has a servitor with heavy weapon, one member with an eviserator, one member with a mystic stave, and one member with a plasma pistol. The five members who aren't a servitor are armed with Agent firearms, which are basically AP-1 bolt pistols rules-wise, but have no specific weapon modeled. The Agents box has multiple options for firearms, from a shotgun to auto/laspistols. So really arm them with whatever you like, since they are supposed to be the weirdos that compose an Inquisitor's retinue, from veteran guardsmen with top of the line military equipment to hive scum with barely working weapons.

Edited September 22, 2024 by Lord_Ikka

[TheArtilleryman]

 

Inquisitorial Agents are a 6-man crew that has a servitor with heavy weapon, one member with an eviserator, one member with a mystic stave, and one member with a plasma pistol. The five members who aren't a servitor are armed with Agent firearms, which are basically AP-1 bolt pistols rules-wise, but have no specific weapon modeled.

OK that’s cool. AP-1 bolt pistols sound like the perfect profile for a shotgun! From what I can see though the eviscerator, mystic stave and plasma pistol are options though, right? So I could model them all as shotgunners if I want and just ignore the options?
 

Only thing I don’t have is a gun servitor though, so that’s less helpful. I suppose I could convert up one guardsman with a space marine heavy bolter and a respirator head or something similar for that.

[Lord_Ikka]

 

OK that’s cool. AP-1 bolt pistols sound like the perfect profile for a shotgun! From what I can see though the eviscerator, mystic stave and plasma pistol are options though, right? So I could model them all as shotgunners if I want and just ignore the options?
 

Only thing I don’t have is a gun servitor though, so that’s less helpful. I suppose I could convert up one guardsman with a space marine heavy bolter and a respirator head or something similar for that.

The plasma/eviserator/stave are all options, but interesting enough they don't actually replace the weapons the agents are already equipped with- the wording is that for every 5 agents one can be equipped with a plasma/one with an eviserator/one with a mystic stave, not that those weapons replace the agents' firearm/melee weapon. I think its perfectly fine to have them all modeled with any of their weapons- just make sure that if you do take the optional choices you nominate a specific model to have each. 

 

I have a "servitor" for one of my Agents squads that is an AoS model with a multi-melta strapped to his back. He's on a slightly bigger base to represent a servitor, so a guardsmen with a heavy bolter should work fine.

 

[LameBeard]

I have a few Necromunda Shotguns I was going to give to some Anvil Industry Guardsmen I have. I was planning a heresy-era squad, serving one of my Astartes chapters as ship-board security, and getting pressed into the front lines when the ship gets boarded.

 

Now I think of it, the militia list might give me a head start on rules, maybe they have some shotguns?

[TheArtilleryman]

Eventually built up the Forge World shotgun guys. Decided to just make a platoon command squad with them and have them count as lasguns. I know, missing out on lots of equipment but rule of cool.

 

 

The heads really were a bugger to stick on as they don’t fit the hole in the neck and need a ton of shaving down to get them to look right.

Edited January 12 by TheArtilleryman

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

Anyone know the best way to source GW shotguns? 

[apologist]

10 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said:

Anyone know the best way to source GW shotguns? 

I'd suggest the Adeptus Arbites Exaction squad – lots of appropriately-scaled shotguns in a variety of poses; the sprue includes a number of holstered shotguns; and as they're optional parts, the squad will still mostly be buildable.

[TheArtilleryman]

Yeah I don’t think it’s gonna be easy to get the FW guard ones now, especially as GW no longer make the Cadians that they are compatible with. I saw a similar sized FW pack of Cadian upgrades on eBay yesterday for nearly 200 quid. Maybe there might be a 3D printing company that makes some?

 

Also, I bet there will be loads of the Krieg shotguns from the engineers sprue available as parts once they get released properly.

Edited January 13 by TheArtilleryman

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

1 hour ago, apologist said:

I'd suggest the Adeptus Arbites Exaction squad – lots of appropriately-scaled shotguns in a variety of poses; the sprue includes a number of holstered shotguns; and as they're optional parts, the squad will still mostly be buildable.

Yeah, that’s about what I was thinking.

just using them, since they have the heavy armor look perfect for carapace armor.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

Well some arbites from eBay are inbound to become my engineers.

just gotta wait for the codex and FAQs to know how to build them.

[Inquisitor_Lensoven]

For the engineer watch master how are y’all planning to load him out?

 

im thinking a hand flamer since I’m planning on taking one with the flamer.

[The Pounder]

Yeah, I’m going with the hand flamer.

 

Too cool not to!