Horus Heresy Legion Melee Weapons Upgrade Set

[Xenith]

 

Agree. Really nice set but even if it had 14 chainswords that would be better because then you can make 2 assault squads with 7 chainswords and 3 power weapons each.

 

Oh and a couple more bolt pistols too.

I was thinking 11 would be ideal minimal addition to the kit, so you can have 11 chainswords, 3 specials and a serge in a 15 man unit. They could have easily have dropped a power sword to add an extra chainsword. Between the command squad and sergeant upgrade frame, we have plenty of swords!

 

I guess you could always give a model a bolt pistol and scanner or melta bomb?

[Valkyrion]

 

 

Yea, ideally they could have just flipped the CAD file and made 5x left and 5x right handed bp's + swords. That would make the kit 11/10. 

 

Can't be having folk making their own plastic destroyers and moritats dual pistolling about the place.

[Waaagh?]

 

 

Can't be having folk making their own plastic destroyers and moritats dual pistolling about the place.

Easy enough to do with the trigger hands from the HH boltguns. 

[darkhorse0607]

 

I’m guessing the FW Chainaxes are OOP?

 

Nope. The phobos kit is still available, granted it only comes with 5 chainaxes and 5 pistols, but it's there

 

I get the frustration, but this kit was never going to have much (if at all) legion-specific weaponry. It's not what it was designed for.

 

Of course then if it did, it would turn into "Where are my plastic power scythes, where are the chainglaives for my Night Lords" etc.

 

This was supposed to be a generic kit, and while I think the heads (as much as I like them, they're pretty good) could've been dropped for more weapons, I think setting expectations was important here

[arnesh88]

I'm lucky enough to have a group of heresy players where we can trade for whichever melee weapons any of us prefer. i like the style of the weapons. i was surprised to see spears in the kit, granted only 2. I ilke the thunder hammers being 2-handed, and that one of the hands is near the pomel, making it easier to snip off and reglue if we wanted it one handed for a character.

[Gorgoff]

 

I was thinking 11 would be ideal minimal addition to the kit, so you can have 11 chainswords, 3 specials and a serge in a 15 man unit. They could have easily have dropped a power sword to add an extra chainsword. Between the command squad and sergeant upgrade frame, we have plenty of swords!

 

I guess you could always give a model a bolt pistol and scanner or melta bomb?

Or a Grenade hand and the sheated chainsword. (Hopefully I spelled that correctly)

[The Praetorian of Inwit]

BY THE EMPEROR IS OUR FAITH REWARDED!

 

This is beautiful. Everything I wanted. Veteran and Despoiler Squads let's  go!!! I am incredibly happy. I can feel my bitterness and misery lifting off my soul as the Emperor (beloved by all) embraces me.

 

BURN HERETICS! FOR THE GLORY OF THE VIITH!

 

So so so happy :) :) :) :) :) :)

Edited October 3 by WAR
Swear Dodge

[Allart01]

Woah, this set is spectacular and way better than expected!

I am definitely giving GW their flowers for this one

[apologist]

 

[...]this kit was never going to have much (if at all) legion-specific weaponry. It's not what it was designed for.

Of course then if it did, it would turn into "Where are my plastic power scythes, where are the chainglaives for my Night Lords" etc.

 

With the melee sprue now out, and pretty much ruling out the approach GW took for ranged weapons (i.e. multiple boxes with large numbers of a few options); I was wondering how GW could reasonably make chainaxes available in plastic. I think there are a few options:

• A World Eaters-specific box that includes; with chainaxes, the various gladiatorial weapons (meteor hammers etc) and some odds and ends like alternative arms/helms.
• A Traitor-themed melee kit with WE chainaxes alongside NL chainglaives, DG power scythes etc.
• Half-sized sprues of fairly generic chainaxes.
• ... or they don't; and chain axes are restricted to resin.

Of the three, I would have though the third most plausible in light of this release... but on the other hand, it feels like resin releases are becoming increasingly rare. Given that GW can seemingly turn sufficient profit from relatively niche sprues like Necromunda gang upgrades, I wouldn't be startled to see Legion-specific boxes turn up at some point.

[painting.for.my.sanity]

Oooh, these are properly nice. Maybe nice enough to be worth the wait?

[Indy Techwisp]

 

 

With the melee sprue now out, and pretty much ruling out the approach GW took for ranged weapons (i.e. multiple boxes with large numbers of a few options); I was wondering how GW could reasonably make chainaxes available in plastic. I think there are a few options:

• A World Eaters-specific box that includes; with chainaxes, the various gladiatorial weapons (meteor hammers etc) and some odds and ends like alternative arms/helms.
• A Traitor-themed melee kit with WE chainaxes alongside NL chainglaives, DG power scythes etc.
• Half-sized sprues of fairly generic chainaxes.
• ... or they don't; and chain axes are restricted to resin.

Of the three, I would have though the third most plausible in light of this release... but on the other hand, it feels like resin releases are becoming increasingly rare. Given that GW can seemingly turn sufficient profit from relatively niche sprues like Necromunda gang upgrades, I wouldn't be startled to see Legion-specific boxes turn up at some point.

 

Something like a "Weaponary of the Legion" box for each faction that works like the Chapter Upgrade Sprues for 40k.

[Waaagh?]

 

 

With the melee sprue now out, and pretty much ruling out the approach GW took for ranged weapons (i.e. multiple boxes with large numbers of a few options); I was wondering how GW could reasonably make chainaxes available in plastic. I think there are a few options:

• A World Eaters-specific box that includes; with chainaxes, the various gladiatorial weapons (meteor hammers etc) and some odds and ends like alternative arms/helms.
• A Traitor-themed melee kit with WE chainaxes alongside NL chainglaives, DG power scythes etc.
• Half-sized sprues of fairly generic chainaxes.
• ... or they don't; and chain axes are restricted to resin.

Of the three, I would have though the third most plausible in light of this release... but on the other hand, it feels like resin releases are becoming increasingly rare. Given that GW can seemingly turn sufficient profit from relatively niche sprues like Necromunda gang upgrades, I wouldn't be startled to see Legion-specific boxes turn up at some point.

 

Well they're doing the legion specific Armoury sets so WE ones will be likely down the line. Only SoH and BA have been done so far.

[Brother Desultor]

 

Can I get a hallelujah?

 

Hallelujah!!

[Mogger351]

 

 

Well they're doing the legion specific Armoury sets so WE ones will be likely down the line. Only SoH and BA have been done so far.

Sorry to be salty but they're not world eaters specific as noted elsewhere in here. That said, the upgrade packs are £24 and likely contain enough axes for 5 guys and a slew of bits.

 

Again, I know I'm likely being unreasonable, but when it's a literal objectively better free upgrade you're punished for not taking, it's ridiculous not to have them for sale in a palatable manner when you need dozens.

 

Instead I guess I'll continue with counts-as that everyone has an axe even if they've got a chainsword.

[Antarius]

This looks great! Maybe I'll finally get around to doing my Heresy/40K space marine army which has just been on hold completely waiting for these (also, I've been waffling a lot when it came to what legion/chapter I was going to do).

[OttoVonAwesome]

Sweet I can finish my BA army now. The axe looks alot better than the resin despoiler pack one. Less Iron Handsy.

[Waaagh?]

 

Sorry to be salty but they're not world eaters specific as noted elsewhere in here. That said, the upgrade packs are £24 and likely contain enough axes for 5 guys and a slew of bits.

 

Again, I know I'm likely being unreasonable, but when it's a literal objectively better free upgrade you're punished for not taking, it's ridiculous not to have them for sale in a palatable manner when you need dozens.

 

Instead I guess I'll continue with counts-as that everyone has an axe even if they've got a chainsword.

 

They aren't world eaters specific but they're the only army that takes them in any real number and are likely to be used enough vs other options. They're more than likely to be in that armoury when it comes out.

 

I get what you're saying and I'd like em in plastic too but I'm pretty sure that's the way it's going to go for the near future.

Edited October 3 by Waaagh?

[Marshal Rohr]

Looks great, I will probably start with a very reasonable six boxes 

[Mr Farson]

Mediocre

 

This would have been excellent had it dropped along the aod box or even the assault marines.

 

This isn't good enough however to justify the two and a half year wait for it.

 

It misses two charnable weapons and treats the heavy chainsword as though it's a 1 in 5 weapons rather than it being everyone in the unit can take one.

 

The lack of a Terminator weapon set is also a glaring omission.

 

Good selection in bolt pistols and one handed bits.

 

The choice to include power swords, plasma pistols and power fists when they come with every plastic infantry set is also ridiculous 

[dicebod]

 

Mediocre

 

This would have been excellent had it dropped along the aod box or even the assault marines.

 

This isn't good enough however to justify the two and a half year wait for it.

 

It misses two charnable weapons and treats the heavy chainsword as though it's a 1 in 5 weapons rather than it being everyone in the unit can take one.

 

The lack of a Terminator weapon set is also a glaring omission.

 

Good selection in bolt pistols and one handed bits.

 

The choice to include power swords, plasma pistols and power fists when they come with every plastic infantry set is also ridiculous 

Thermonuclear take.

[Waaagh?]

 

Mediocre

 

This would have been excellent had it dropped along the aod box or even the assault marines.

 

This isn't good enough however to justify the two and a half year wait for it.

 

It misses two charnable weapons and treats the heavy chainsword as though it's a 1 in 5 weapons rather than it being everyone in the unit can take one.

 

The lack of a Terminator weapon set is also a glaring omission.

 

Good selection in bolt pistols and one handed bits.

 

The choice to include power swords, plasma pistols and power fists when they come with every plastic infantry set is also ridiculous 

 

I agree with the power swords and plasma pistols (especially given they've not included two of the charnabal weapons) however it's good to have fists for both arms for those wanting to do dual LC and have a little variety compared to just using the one from the infantry kit over and over.

[Mr Farson]

 

Thermonuclear take.

Accurate take

 

People praise mediocre releases far too easily

 

Gw puts out plenty of low effort mediocre kits and this is one of them

 

Take the plastic striking scorpions, a plastic remake that adds nothing new to the kit, a mediocre release.

 

Compare that to the new vespid that received a visual re design along with new unit options alongside weapons, an good release.

 

The mere act of converting something to plastic doesn't mean it's "good" 

 

 

[darkhorse0607]

 

The lack of a Terminator weapon set is also a glaring omission.

 

Why would they release a box of Terminator upgrades when the Terminators haven't been resculpted, and the upgrade kits for the old ones already exist?

 

Are you suggesting they release a pack and then sculpt/release a new pack for the inevitable new Terminators? Or just release a pack for the new scale that hasn't even come out yet

[Doghouse]

Love the bare heads, empty hands and the Umbra pistol especially.

[Halandaar]

 

Take the plastic striking scorpions, a plastic remake that adds nothing new to the kit, a mediocre release.

 

Compare that to the new vespid that received a visual re design along with new unit options alongside weapons, an good release.

 

The mere act of converting something to plastic doesn't mean it's "good"

 

Sometimes, simply taking a good design and changing the medium is exactly what a kit needs. Changing things for the sake of it doesn't automatically make them good either.