Dr. Clock Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 I'm sold. Fuegan will be my first updated Phoenix Lord - Jain and Maugan just haven't been quite my jam as yet, but Fuegan and Karandras were the ones I enjoyed most back in 2nd and Fuegan is honestly pitch perfect as for me, a 2nd Ed. Eldar originalist. I foresee a substantial amount of new Ulthwé in my queue for 2025, and I'll likely get a head start with some Reapers or Scorpions before year end ; ) Cheers, The Good Doctor. Xenith, The Yak and Kallas 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6072939 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 (edited) 15 hours ago, N1SB said: Brother Reinhard, you inspired me to share the following. At the bottom of the manual you saw Japanese and Chinese names. The Japanese is pure transliteration/phonetics, as both Japanese speakers and anime would recorgnise, using katakana, their alphabet for that express purpose. The Chinese, which both Chinese AND Japanese speakers will recognise because they use our script as kanji, is a huge, YUGE, missed opportunity. [snip] I agree here that this one could have been both phonetic and expressive. However, to defend GW's translation, sometimes the Chinese really is just a collection of sounds that makes the most sense to a Chinese ear (I know you know this, but wanted to share for people who may think what GW did was just pure laziness). For example, the Mandarin for my city is "休斯顿" or "Xiusidun." Barely even sounds like the real name, and translating each character separately just makes nonsene! The Mandarin for my own English name is a couple of characters that when translated phonetically actually sound like a completely different name. Sometimes, the order of sounds used for a European word may not make sense or appeal to someone who is used to thinking and speaking with the patterns of a Chinese dialect. So GW may have given "Fuegan" to a Chinese translator who looked at it and thought "yeah, 弗甘 sounds right to me!" Side Note - I think they should have called my town "牛国" but they named it before I got here. Edited October 25 by phandaal SvenIronhand 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6072940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Marshal Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 12 minutes ago, Emperor Ming said: Unless all the metal and resin Pl's will be redone in plastic, I guess some will be retired to legends? Cant see them all getting new models They might keep them around anyway. Tau still have the Firesight Team, Orks have the Weirdboy and Necrons have two of the C'tan in resin. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6072941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 8 hours ago, Cyrox said: Kind of - some guy ordered a Kairic Acolytes kit and rather than get the correct instructions for said kit, he got the instructions for the new Fuegan instead. He didn't actually get the mini itself, which is why there's no sprue or mini pics. Notice how this only ever happens with direct from.GW purchases, theyre doing this on purpose I tells ya Metzombie 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6072942 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 38 minutes ago, Emperor Ming said: Unless all the metal and resin Pl's will be redone in plastic, I guess some will be retired to legends? Cant see them all getting new models Given the rumours, there will be only Karandras left in resin anyway. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6072945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Emperor Ming said: Unless all the metal and resin Pl's will be redone in plastic, I guess some will be retired to legends? Cant see them all getting new models You can't see three more characters getting models, two of which are rumoured to come alongside Fuegan or shortly after? Edited October 25 by DeadFingers SvenIronhand 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6072946 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova-V Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 46 minutes ago, Dark Shepherd said: Notice how this only ever happens with direct from.GW purchases, theyre doing this on purpose I tells ya They are always direct orders as those orders are dispatched from the same one that stores models before distribution to stores. So this model will not be at any other stores GW or independent to be shipped from. The only place it can be accidentally slip into is a direct order. It's a simple mistake for something to end up in the wrong location and be shipped as a result. It's just most of the time it will be an unremarkable model and people simply contact GW to get the correct model sent out. As to the model itself it's a beaut. As others have said GW have really nailed this Eldar refresh. It's getting increasingly hard to resist despite not needing another army. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6072952 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indy Techwisp Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 2 minutes ago, Nova-V said: It's a simple mistake for something to end up in the wrong location and be shipped as a result. It's just most of the time it will be an unremarkable model and people simply contact GW to get the correct model sent out. Someone put the Instruction Manual for this guy inside a box of Kairic Acolytes tho. Not only the wrong instructions, but for the wrong faction and in the wrong game. This was a little more than a simple picking up of the wrong box. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6072953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMawr Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Someone was talking about his teal colorscheme ( and even though I know some people are sick of it, I love teal colorschemes.) so had to give it a go I think a recurring problem with GWs bright red colorschemes is that they dont contrast very well, making things blander as they are.. I think contrasting the scale decoration in the armor almost is a must as well. Ofcourse I got a little lost and ended up here ( wich does point out that he might be a little lightweight for peoples expectation of a phoenix lord, but I love this simple thing if I am allowed to say so myself ) : The Yak, DemonGSides, Alby the Slayer and 20 others 10 11 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6072955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Your photoshops look awesome mate! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6072957 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 That's a super cool digital kitbash! Would work super well as an Exarch. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6072974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 3 hours ago, DeadFingers said: You can't see three more characters getting models, two of which are rumoured to come alongside Fuegan or shortly after? Blood Angels just got 5 Characters (Sanguinor, Lemartes, Astorath, Captain and Sanguinary Priest) and they are only a sub-faction army. I don't know what is coming for Eldar (beyond Valrak's rumours) but I don't think we will necessarily get the Characters hard capped at 3. skylerboodie 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6072980 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormwoods Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 30 minutes ago, Karhedron said: I don't think we will necessarily get the Characters hard capped at 3. New Autarch on jetbike, pls Kallas, Tyriks, CL_Mission and 3 others 1 4 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6072982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borbarad Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 Very cool. It helps that the basic eldar design is a timeless masterpiece. Jes Goodwin knocked it out of the park with that one. ursvamp, Xenith, Ramell and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6072984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheArtilleryman Posted October 25 Share Posted October 25 (edited) Awesome model. This one was always one of my favourites. Is that really toughness 3 on his datasheet? I know that’s the same for most eldar but it seems a bit weak. Edited October 26 by TheArtilleryman Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6072998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenIronhand Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 Fuegan looks great, though I think he could do with a bit more black on his person as a spot color. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6073013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 13 hours ago, Indy Techwisp said: Someone put the Instruction Manual for this guy inside a box of Kairic Acolytes tho. Not only the wrong instructions, but for the wrong faction and in the wrong game. This was a little more than a simple picking up of the wrong box. I am legit curious/fascinated how this would happen to a small number or even one box and not an entire run of them Obviously no one is doing it on purpise, unless they have literal nurglings in the warehouse Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6073017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 8 hours ago, TheArtilleryman said: Is that really toughness 3 on his datasheet? I know that’s the same for most eldar but it seems a bit weak. All the Phoenix Lords have gone down to T3 in this edition. The 2+/4++ helps to mitigate this to some extent but they are a bit vulnerable to precision weapons. It seems to be a conscious design decision in 10th that most Characters are the same toughness as the units that they lead. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6073022 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 10 hours ago, Karhedron said: Blood Angels just got 5 Characters (Sanguinor, Lemartes, Astorath, Captain and Sanguinary Priest) and they are only a sub-faction army. I don't know what is coming for Eldar (beyond Valrak's rumours) but I don't think we will necessarily get the Characters hard capped at 3. Well, Valrak did start talking about Yriel and the Corsairs recently, but I don't know if that fits within this upcoming release or is something for the future. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6073023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogian Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 Holding back a phoenix lord or two to release on their own as a 'you're not getting anything else this year so you can have this' morsel doesn't seem that unlikely to me. Karhedron, Dark Shepherd and LSM 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6073026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magos Takatus Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 (edited) 16 hours ago, INKS said: can't imagine, what do you have to paint / is in the way? To avoid giving myself some kind of trauma I will keep it brief, but I have a great deal to catch up with my Ulthwé Aeldari, some Imperial Knight models, Space Marines, Adeptus Mechanicus, Orks, Kroot, some other smaller collections from the Imperium Magazine, plus projects for Kill Team, Necromunda and Warcry and I want to push out a Heresy Mechanicum army to dip my toe in commission work. There's other stuff as well, but that's most of it. I really need to adopt speed painting techniques into my skillset to complete this in my lifetime. Edited October 26 by Magos Takatus SvenIronhand 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6073031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 17 hours ago, Mogger351 said: Waves of that size are usually 2 releases each (even BA were) so that makes it 4/8. Stormcast and Skaven were both 1 week each for 12+ kits. New Eldar wave looking to be half that size. BA was 1 week for all the standalone kits - Combat Patrol released later yes, but that was alongside all the Legions Imperialis stuff, so it didn't "take up" a weekly slot on it's own. Even if they did spin it out to four weeks, that's still only half the release dates possible which still goes against your original statement of "more or less all 40k for 2 months". Both Guard and Eldar in Jan/Feb is plausible. Accept it! skylerboodie and SvenIronhand 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6073034 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 From Reddit, guess they aint happy skylerboodie, Kallas, Evil Eye and 6 others 9 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6073036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 1 hour ago, Frogian said: Holding back a phoenix lord or two to release on their own as a 'you're not getting anything else this year so you can have this' morsel doesn't seem that unlikely to me. That's probably Karandras fate...and if they make a shining spears phoenix lord since warp spiders are getting one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6073042 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SvenIronhand Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 (edited) There's been a Phoenix Lord for Shining Spears since 7th at least. Drastanta. EDIT: I know Gav Thorpe thinks of the Phoenix Lords as only being the Asurya, whose backstory he laid out personally. But in this case, I personally don't give a gak about his opinion, in that regard. Drastanta is a cool addition to the legendary corpus of the Phoenix Lords, a late-comer in universe and out. Edited October 26 by SvenIronhand ZeroWolf 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/384344-new-fuegan-miniature/page/5/#findComment-6073044 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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