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This opens up a real risk for creating false rumors. Ideally, images created in this way will have some sort of watermark to (hopefully) make it clear that they are AI-generated and are not real models. I can see all kinds of craziness spreading across the Internet as a result of bad actors and misunderstandings.

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30 minutes ago, Brother Tyler said:

This opens up a real risk for creating false rumors. Ideally, images created in this way will have some sort of watermark to (hopefully) make it clear that they are AI-generated and are not real models. I can see all kinds of craziness spreading across the Internet as a result of bad actors and misunderstandings.

Oh cripes, I hadn't even thought of that. To be absolutely clear, I had just intended this to be a thread to have fun with techno-nonsense and make cool stuff, nothing more.

(I will say, I kinda wanna make that gretchin into an actual miniature, he looks pretty gnarly!)

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Just now, ThePenitentOne said:

Yep.

 

Now wait until the AI generates not the image, but the .STL necessary to print it....

 

And then there are no more game companies. Or model designers.

 

Not to be a buzzkill or anything.

 

AI is going to be generating STLs any day now. Starting with PC game models seems likely. Clean the shape, pose, scan for voids. The technology already exists and just needs a hand to guide it right now.

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7 hours ago, Trokair said:

That Nurgle Word Bearer looks like someone just did a conversion.

 

6 hours ago, Evil Eye said:

(I will say, I kinda wanna make that gretchin into an actual miniature, he looks pretty gnarly!)

 

Those 2 were the absolute standout ones to me, too.

I've been using Windows 11 Copilot, which really just outsources to another actual AI art program, DallE.  It always defaults to something Space Marine.  An Adeptus Sororitas to it is just a female Space Marine.  A Techpriest is a Techmarine.

These are really quite good for brainstorming.  I do like how it's a Word Bearer Plague Marine rather than just Death Guard.

Dangit, now I'm thinking about it, too.

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12 hours ago, phandaal said:

 

AI is going to be generating STLs any day now. Starting with PC game models seems likely. Clean the shape, pose, scan for voids. The technology already exists and just needs a hand to guide it right now.

 

It depends on how much free 3d model data is available, and while I don't really know, most of the time those with public access are paid for or at least account restricted data downloads.. in other words, any AI that could do this now likely breaches several boundaries.

 

Text, 2d images and even 2d video have an extremely large "free" pool to take from hence why the AI creations for those can get so advanced so fast. It ignores ofcourse wether its truelly free, but thats another topic.

 

But I think the pool of freely accessible 2d data far exceeds the total amount of 3d data in existence, even when including things AI shouldn't be able to learn from.

 

To explain better what I mean, what has the larger variabel pool, and how exponentially larger is it : 3d primaris CAD files, or people, including GW, who made pictures of their assembled, painted models based on those cad files.

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1 minute ago, TheMawr said:

 

It depends on how much free 3d model data is available, and while I don't really know, most of the time those with public access are paid for or at least account restricted data downloads.. in other words, any AI that could do this now likely breaches several boundaries.

 

Text, 2d images and even 2d video have an extremely large "free" pool to take from hence why the AI creations for those can get so advanced so fast. It ignores ofcourse wether its truelly free, but thats another topic.

 

But I think the pool of freely accessible 2d data far exceeds the total amount of 3d data in existence, even when including things AI shouldn't be able to learn from.

 

To explain better what I mean, what has the larger variabel pool, and how exponentially larger is it : 3d primaris CAD files, or people, including GW, who made pictures of their assembled, painted models based on those cad files.

 

Well, I didn't say the AI was going to be doing it without breaching any boundaries. :laugh:

 

You are correct that there is a lot of 2D data to work from, which is why those pictures above are 2D images, not 3D models. There is a big difference between drawing a single view of something and drawing the entire thing in 360 degrees. Hence the reason for starting from a 3D object.

 

People have been converting 3D models from GW PC games into printable STLs for years already. The activities people do to convert those files are the ones an AI would step in and do. I assume the "respectful disagreement" on my post above is just because my dear friend Sven is a good and honest man who doesn't know the seedier underbelly of the printing world. :thumbsup:

 

The other alternative is that an AI takes 3rd party proxy/scan STLs and puts them together into a model based on instructions.

 

Either way, I do think AI-generated printable models are going to be here sooner rather than later.

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2 hours ago, TheMawr said:

I wanted to play around with it but it isn't available here yet ( Netherlands) :\ 

Try using a VPN, that should let you get "early access".

 

Re: AI genned STLs, it's worth noting that whilst AI genned 3D models ARE a thing, they're currently at the level of early Craiyon. Definitely not capable of making useable models for wargaming...yet. I reckon we'll have a way to go before that becomes a thing, but hey, you never know!

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18 hours ago, ThePenitentOne said:

Yep.

 

Now wait until the AI generates not the image, but the .STL necessary to print it....

 

And then there are no more game companies. Or model designers.

 

Not to be a buzzkill or anything.

 

I'm sure it will be fine. GW can just fall back on the awesome work they do supporting the lore via Black Library, and selling the rules.

 

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