Emperors Children Emperor's Children (Resurrection)

[EmprahsStrongestGuardsman]

I used to have an old account on here around 10 years ago the email and password of which I've completely forgotten. I made a Project log for my EC back then which never actually progressed at all lol:

And it seems that all the image links are dead too.

I uploaded some of these to the Gallery so I won't fill the thread with them. Only a few were ever finished properly.

 

The Chaos Lord who I recently rebased and gave a new claw arm. 

 

 

He was supposed to be an Abaddon proxy in 5th edition, I think.

 

Detail on the green stuff and conversion work I did on him (glad i kept these pics):

 

Completed models: 

 

WIP models (lots): 

 

These have all been living inside a drawer untouched for years. Maybe I'll finish them, maybe I won't. He comes, He goes... 

Edited December 9 by EmprahsStrongestGuardsman

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Great to see them here!  Your not-Abbadon is a fantastic conversion, faithful both to the model he isn't (Abbadon) and the model he is (EC lord).  I see you decided against the bolters on the claw though, and am curious about the decision - both look good, its just interesting to find out the whys behind hobby decisions.

 

Personally, I would post everything you want to share here - the albums are a good way to store photos, but a thread like this is a much better way to share them and engage in conversations with other users about them, as one is unlikely to see the album unless one specifically goes looking for it.

[EmprahsStrongestGuardsman]

Thanks.

From what I vaguely remember from back then I had a Lord in 3.5 that cost as much as a Land Raider with all his upgrades and could dish out 8 str 8 attacks on the charge... lol... so I was a bit unsatisfied with the way the game and codexes went after that. In 5th, I think, there weren't really Cult lists. You could take anything. I wasn't able to make my silly Lord the way I wanted so I just made him a proxy for Abaddon.

He had Talon of Horus originally but at some point I replaced that with the vintage Noise Marine Champ claw which just looks better. He's not really a proxy any more and I dunno if I can even take a Lord configured like this.

Here he is as he was originally:

 

I can show some of my Sonic Terminators. 

They started off like this, using the old plastic loyalists as a base:

And then I gradually built up trim and screaming faces and such.

 

These are old images. I think I only partially painted one of these.

 

Refuse is still around as far as I can tell, but ec.net just seems to be his blog now. Oh well.

 

Didn't there used to be a Slaanesh subforum here? Legion of Excess? What happened to it?

 

Edited December 12 by Dr_Ruminahui
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[Dr_Ruminahui]

Those are all great - particularly like the first 2 noise terminators. I too view the 3.5 as kind of high water mark for chaos list building, though I never played it myself (though I did get trounced by it playing my Sisters of Battle - though, to be fair, they got trounced by everything). 

 

And thanks for the explanation on the evolving chaos lord.  I agree the old claw looks better on him - it's pretty much a perfect fit for him, aesthetics wise.  He is still legal as modelled- you can field him as a terminator lord with a pair of accursed weapons (so, what used to be twin lightning claws, accursed weapons are now "generic" chaos power weapons).  You could also field him as a regular lord (if he is on the smaller side) with a power fist and an accursed weapon (though there isn't much of an in game benefit to doing - as you can only use one or the other in any given fight phase, it gives you a bit of versatility but not much more than that).

 

Your lovely conversions and pastel colours really reminds me of @Kierdale's lovely EC - you might want to check out his thread for inspiration some time.

Edited December 4 by Dr_Ruminahui

[EmprahsStrongestGuardsman]

Thanks for that. That guy's thread does ring a bell, maybe he was on emperorschildren.net back in the day.

 

3.5 was busted in some ways. There was a minor Slaanesh Psyker power, you rolled a d6 on a table so a 1/6 chance to get it, called Siren which basically made the Psyker untargetable by ranged. I used it exactly once before it was banned. (The Lord was also a psyker)

And Iron Warriors could take extra Heavy Support choices, and had access to Basilisks. 

 

There were so many options that it was bound to be exploitable in some ways, probably why there are relatively so few now.

 

Here are some characters:

 

Lucius

 

Sorcerer

 

Extra lords. I used to use the guy on the right often. Though he usually just died to shooting. He doesn't exist anymore, I cut him apart. I think the Cadian voxcaster speaker on his face is the one on the OP Lord's chest, not sure.

 

Refuse is still around as far as I can tell, but ec.net just seems to be his blog now. Oh well.

 

Didn't there used to be a Slaanesh subforum here? Legion of Excess? What happened to it?

Edited December 12 by Dr_Ruminahui
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[Dr_Ruminahui]

Not sure where else Kierdale posted - though, it may have been he was around here and building his army when you were previously a member.  BTW, you could contact @Brother Tyler if wanted to have your old account merged into the new one (or vice versa).

 

I really like how you painted your Lucius - I'm really not a fan of the original sculpt (which is why I kitbashed my own), but your paint job really elevates the kind of crappy model and it looks great.  I also like your various characters - you've made fantastic use of their various parts.  Too bad you disassembled your mini lord - he's very distinctive.

 

Yeah, I remember the way the 3.5 ed codex worked - Iron Warriors were one of the top lists at that time, in part because they could fit 4 very potent pie plates into a list (due to their 4 Heavy Support choices), including the afore mentioned basilisk for some very rare (back then) indirect fire.  My first foray into chaos was buying the miniatures to field a 1700 point knight lords list with 2 cheap-ish jump pack lords, 2x raptors, 2x furies, 2x foot squads and 1 heavy weapons squad with tank hunters and missile launchers.  Not the best chaos list, but quite fast and very different from the rhino mounted sisters I was then playing.  Didn't go anywhere, though, as I found I didn't like painting knight lords, though the some of the parts I had built (the 2 lords, a raptors squad and a foot squad) were some of the first models I painted for my current army - you can see some of them here.

 

Personally, I'm enjoying 10th edition and I think the current codex works pretty well for an EC force.  Sure, from a list building perspective it doesn't contain the versatility of 3.5 with its wide variety of upgrades and benefit of using your divine number, but that just isn't the way army building works in the game anymore.  Instead, you get a wide variety of pretty interesting and varied units, and some really interesting detachments - renegade raiders with its run-and-shoot ability in my mind works really well for EC, both conceptually and in practice.  Plus, we are kind of a weird sweet spot in terms of taking noise marines - while you are points capped by the ally rules, they have the same army rule (Dark Pacts) as the CSM codex so you don't miss out on that in the way you do with the other god-aligned legions, and if you want more than the point cap you just have to take Lucius.  So, I'm really enjoying 10e (with the Leviathan mission cards) - while there are many things about the way codexes are currently done (including the invalidation of my autogun cultists) that irk me, the play experience has been pretty enjoyable.

[Tallarn Commander]

Wow! These are some stellar conversions and paint jobs that really harken back to 3.5. I agree with Ruminahui. The current edition is a good edition. And while we have less versatility as CSM than we had in 3.5, we have more versatility this edition than any edition since then (with the possible exception of the last few months of 7th edition).

 

I just noticed the expression on the Sorceress’ face; your paint job perfectly captures an intense lack of pity in her countenance!

[madlibrarian]

On 12/4/2024 at 9:37 PM, EmprahsStrongestGuardsman said:

Thanks.

From what I vaguely remember from back then I had a Lord in 3.5 that cost as much as a Land Raider with all his upgrades and could dish out 8 str 8 attacks on the charge... lol... so I was a bit unsatisfied with the way the game and codexes went after that. In 5th, I think, there weren't really Cult lists. You could take anything. I wasn't able to make my silly Lord the way I wanted so I just made him a proxy for Abaddon.

He had Talon of Horus originally but at some point I replaced that with the vintage Noise Marine Champ claw which just looks better. He's not really a proxy any more and I dunno if I can even take a Lord configured like this.

Here he is as he was originally:

 

I can show some of my Sonic Terminators. 

They started off like this, using the old plastic loyalists as a base:

And then I gradually built up trim and screaming faces and such.

 

These are old images. I think I only partially painted one of these.

Dude you should absolutely finish these off - they’re fantastic

[Brother Tyler]

22 minutes ago, EmprahsStrongestGuardsman said:

Didn't there used to be a Slaanesh subforum here? Legion of Excess? What happened to it?

 

Forum/sub-forum structure here is based on need, as determined by the amount of sustained activity. While content architecture might allow for a much larger structure to our forums, having too many forums/sub-forums with little/no activity simply creates unnecessary scrolling requirements for the members of our community. When this happens, we consolidate in a manner that is (hopefully) logical to minimize scrolling as much as possible while still supporting findability. In this, there is occasional expansion/contraction of the forums/sub-forums as activity ebbs and flows. We may see a dedicated sub-forum for the Emperor's Children/Slaanesh if a codex supplement is released and we see sustained activity. In the meantime, or if we see a codex supplement without a level of sustained activity that warrants a dedicated sub-forum, it is highly recommended that members use appropriate tags to help members and the search function to quickly find desired content (in this case, Emperor's Children Legion and Slaanesh would be the default recommended tags, along with any others that might be suitable and/or help narrow searching down).

[EmprahsStrongestGuardsman]

Ok, with the new stuff coming up you'll probably have to resurrect that subforum too then.

 

I don't care about the old account mentioned in the OP by the way. Maybe if the image links weren't all dead.

I don't remember the email or the password so I don't really have any way to prove it was mine.

[Dr_Ruminahui]

For those who are curious where it went, I moved the post with the slanneshi demons over to the demons forum - you can find it here.

[EmprahsStrongestGuardsman]

Let's try some Noise Marines then.

 

I really wish I hadn't lost the old camera I had. my tablet is not suited for this.

 

I think these pics were taken at different times so you might see the same models before and after certain modifications.

There's a lot of greenstuffing and converting.

 

The idea with the random paint scheme is that -of course- Slaanesh followers would not have uniforms. Everyone is an individual. Everyone wants to stand out and be noticed (by snipers).

 

 

These two involve some healthy and wholesome desecration of old models. I got some of the ancient metal Noise Marines, cut them up and combined them with the then-current Marine parts:

 

Icon Bearer on the right here has a chainsaw codpiece, but you can't really see it:

Cloak guy became an Icon Bearer at some point:

 

And finally a couple of very old Possessed:

[EmprahsStrongestGuardsman]

I found my Rhino with a Warp Amp. 

 

This was based on a conversion that appeared in one of the Codexes:

 

 

Best I could do at the time was shove in some biros and a piece of pipe.

 

And my Black Legion FW dread:

 

 

Don't know why I used dark eldar, might be because they were the only spares I had at the time. Pretty sure both these models are around 20 years old.

[Tallarn Commander]

The warp amp conversion is wonderful!

[Dr_Ruminahui]

Yeah, I agree - in many ways, I prefer it to the model that inspired it... really digging the comination of round and hexagonal tubes.  Also really like the pink-on-black paisley symbols.

 

Wouldn't be surprised if that is a 3e dark eldar - the resisn dread is certainly of 3.5 vintage and there were a ton of loose dark eldar floating around at that time, due to their inclusion in the 3e box set as the "opfor" to the space marines.  In fact, I still have a coupe of sets sitting untouched in my "shelf of shame" from back then.  Not sure if the dread has enough missiles, though. 

 

Also I missed saying that I love your old noise marines - great use of garish colours, greenstuffing, demonette bits and 3rd party parts.  In particular I really like the various head crests and the "Alien Nation" style heads.  Your possesseds are also appropriately grotesque.  You should totally finish all those guys up if you can.

Edited December 14 by Dr_Ruminahui

[EmprahsStrongestGuardsman]

Thanks guys.

 

The black with pink graffiti was the original paint scheme I had on them all, way back when. Can see it on the Possessed as well. It's a good effect but it requires a lot of painstaking detail work which is why I never bothered doing it too much.

 

Yeah they're the original DE plastics, not sure where I got them I don't think I ever owned the 3rd ed box set... not sure. It was a great kit for slaanesh cos it had loads of hair plumes and spiky blades.

 

I'm not sure what I'm going to do with this in the near future... EC are getting updated, but I also need to get approx 10 tanks for the Guard. Slaanesh will have to delay gratification for a time.