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That head is going to get stolen for SO much stuff lol.

 

I can almost see the WB folks in the audience drooling.

 

The Whip looks interesting, especially with EC in the works its interesting to see how much GW is doing the coiled up look.

I like it. It's a really good model.  An excellent transition between a traitor legionary and a chaos space marine. And has an incredible Cthonian touch.

Specially,I love the bare head option.

 

Anyway,even though it's a great miniature, snd as someone pointed in blusky, it's a bit weird have a traitor version and a loyalist one, each one with official miniature,when there are others consul like (and praetor like) options still without official miniature,since a lot of time.

 

Yes,yes I know it's a quiteunpopular opinion,  but it's my personal opinion. And I'm not the only one who thinks that. .

Edited by Agramar_The_Luna_Wolf

Like the other Overseer, a lovely model – my only slight regret is the continued distinction between rebels (traitors) and loyalists in terms of models. While I very much appreciate Legion-specific models as a way to showcase the particular aesthetics of different factions, I also really liked the 'moral greyness' of a civil war, where it was at least vaguely reasonable that a neutral party might choose to throw their lot in with either party because of politics. Having specifically loyalist and traitor models – particularly for a role like this – makes it all seem a bit more like the same ol' 'goodies* and baddies' set up we have in 40k.

 

It's also inconstent with the Legion Praetors, which took my preferred approach – while one is 'good-coded' and the other 'evil-coded', they're sold as the neutral 'Legion Praetor with [weapon]'. A niggle, more than anything else. They look nice and easy to convert, and I'm sure there's a salesy reason to have them labelled as such... just seems a shame to lose the opportunity for a bit of imagination and subtlety.

 

I would have preferred to have both models released with options for marking them as a loyalist or traitor (such as helmets or shoulder pads), which I think would have worked better in any case. Just ask yourself which of the two base bodies would look more fitting in (e.g.) an Emperor's Children force and which in an Iron Hands force?

 

On the plus side, I love the way the two look alongside the other, each exhorting their respective minions onwards – great design there. 

 

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*'baddies and worse baddies'?

Edited by apologist
22 minutes ago, apologist said:

I would have preferred to have both models released with options for marking them as a loyalist or traitor (such as helmets or shoulder pads), which I think would have worked better in any case. Just ask yourself which of the two base bodies would look more fitting in (e.g.) an Emperor's Children force and which in an Iron Hands force?

 

Fully agree. It seems like some of the kits they're putting out for HH are intended to represent chaps from LATE in the Heresy, where a lot of that ambiguity has been eroded by all the fun mutations and edgy affects the traitors start to indulge in. I don't hate that, though it does leave you with traitors who can get away with using loyalist bits and bodies, but loyalists who probably aren't going to get away with that in reverse. 

 

The Iron Warrior in clean, late-period plate is going to draw less attention than an Imperial Fist with a big, dumb demon hat on, and all the spikes. 

 

Anyway, for all that, I quite like the lad! Look forward to seeing it in 40K armies as a Dark Apostle or Master of Possession.

Very nice model, will have to pick up one for my Sons of Horus and my Word Bearers.

 

I think the visuals they're going for with some of them is more mid-Heresy, whereas I think of late Heresy as being even more corrupted than this, basically CSM. Especially in the case of miniatures like this, that is perfectly fine, given they probably wouldn't have been using Overseers in the early Heresy (Istvaan, etc.).

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